front drive grip???

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front drive grip???
what should we do/improve/upgrade to have more grip ? which size of rims will help? 16inch/15inch/17ich?

grip and traction have the same meaning?

taiko answer laaaa
 

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satria only bro,
i already have UR ARB 16mm if im not mistaken,
and bout the front chamber what kind of setup should it be?
 

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if for daily usage dont get too much of camber..will get your tyres bald in the inner side..juz get a very less negative camber will do..
 

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depends on ur car bro..cause like for my car is lowered and onli front can adjust camber..so onli adjusted the front to i think -0.5 i think..not so much..so best of luck..

suspension also important. tyres also important..everything is combined and plays an important role..
 

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yes..previously i was using -1 camber...that was on my previous tyres..now with new tyres new setting i have lessen the negative..bringing it to -0.5..tayar mahal..haha..

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with negative camber i think u will get a bit quick response handling..
 

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post up some pics la when u done..
 

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uish, ride not nice laaaaa, paint also not niceeeee. sad sad sad~~
w8 for money to come, and paint it with original GTI color. T_T.
 

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good tyre helps alot... suspension and chassis, everything do helps in giving better grip and traction...

btw, grip and traction is slightly different...
 

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the best chamber for daily front tyre -1.0 enuf..

even during tarmac rally i only adjust -1.5 la....donwan to looks like too much like touring car close to -3.0 degree oso have....

front anti rollbar need bigger...19-21mm would be good...but u'll felt your current suspension setup becomes harder than usual...
 

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sure need to scarifice comfort for performance..
 

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Just my humble 2 sen...

You have to know what you want and ask properly... What do you mean by front drive grip?
You want your car to handle better in the corners, or you just want more grip at straight road/launching? Or more traction while accelerating out of corners? All the suggestions everyone posted here are for different things... if you do some self study and ask around with the correct questions, you are more likely to get what you want without wasting money on wrong modifications.

If you just want more grip, 80% of it depends on the tire. Buy good tires, then got good grip. Suspension kong kiau also got grip. The wider the tires, the more grip (Rim size doesnt matter, a 225/50/15 will have more grip than a 195/45/17. However, the lower the tire profile, the more control (less sidewall flex), but the less comfortable).

If you want good handling and traction, now thats a whole different story.

Just to correct a few things here, stiff suspension, thicker anti-roll bars, etc do *not* give more grip.

If you only install a thicker anti-roll bar /stiffer suspension in the front without changing anything else, your car will actually understeer more. You need to increase stiffness in front and at the back accordingly to get good handling. You will get less body roll, more car control, but this doesnt necessarily mean more grip.

If you add camber (not chamber, guys...), it will give you more contact patch when your tire flexes at cornering, hence more grip in the corners. But when on straight roads, you get less grip than having a straight camber.

LSD increases traction, but does not increase any physical grip. Traction = your car's ability to sustain grip on 4 wheels as a whole. Basically, people tune the car to maximize traction, with whatever grip that is given by the tires.
 
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go for LSD hehehe..with LSD and without LSD i feel much different...but stereng a bit heavy la when cornering....traction superb..
 

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Just my humble 2 sen...

You have to know what you want and ask properly... What do you mean by front drive grip?
You want your car to handle better in the corners, or you just want more grip at straight road/launching? Or more traction while accelerating out of corners? All the suggestions everyone posted here are for different things... if you do some self study and ask around with the correct questions, you are more likely to get what you want without wasting money on wrong modifications.

If you just want more grip, 80% of it depends on the tire. Buy good tires, then got good grip. Suspension kong kiau also got grip. The wider the tires, the more grip (Rim size doesnt matter, a 225/50/15 will have more grip than a 195/45/17. However, the lower the tire profile, the more control (less sidewall flex), but the less comfortable).

If you want good handling and traction, now thats a whole different story.

Just to correct a few things here, stiff suspension, thicker anti-roll bars, etc do *not* give more grip.

If you only install a thicker anti-roll bar /stiffer suspension in the front without changing anything else, your car will actually understeer more. You need to increase stiffness in front and at the back accordingly to get good handling. You will get less body roll, more car control, but this doesnt necessarily mean more grip.

If you add camber (not chamber, guys...), it will give you more contact patch when your tire flexes at cornering, hence more grip in the corners. But when on straight roads, you get less grip than having a straight camber.

LSD increases traction, but does not increase any physical grip. Traction = your car's ability to sustain grip on 4 wheels as a whole. Basically, people tune the car to maximize traction, with whatever grip that is given by the tires.

u already answer it all, thnxx