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Sorry to dig-up an old thread but like BNR, I was bored so I was reading the Crimes section and I thought we could discuss this issue further. There was some useful information but there was also a fair amount of ridiculous ideas. One guy suggested wiring the car in such a way that whoever touches the car would get an electric shock. To be honest, the thought crossed my mind and I even discussed this with Peter at CV Audio. Entirely possible but what if a curious kid happened to touch your car?
Another option I considered was to have a removable steering wheel especially if you're going to leave the car for long periods. But then where do you find the boss kit? Hicas boss kits are easy enough but do they even have quick release ones?
I spoke to a few car thieves and in general, the longer it takes/harder it is to steal a car; the more likely it is that they will move on. This is for the types of cars that they regularly steal due to demand. Used to be Wish, then Hilux, etc. We're not talking about cars that are specifically targeted, but those that fall into the category of crime of opportunity. So short answer is yes definitely a deterrent but not impossible.
I've decided to paste Tom's question here since he kacau the other thread - only Perlis people would do such a thing
When I did my alarm system, I asked Peter frankly how many of his customer's cars were stolen and if I remember correctly (this was awhile ago) it was less than 5 but they were recovered further down the road.
Firstly, the installation is very well done. Secondly, it's not a cheap RM700 alarm that you see advertised everywhere, multiply that by about 10 and you'd be close I think. How it works, what it does etc is best kept between you and your installer. The third reason is the use of additional modules/functions. There are also many other little things. Even having different keys for the boot and the doors is worth doing - luckily our cars come that way.
Security tint helps; slows thieves down. Especially if your alarm is so sensitive that it goes off when people lean against it, smashing repeatedly will surely trigger it. Helps if the car informs you that the alarm has been triggered as well. I hear people say that if the car is parked in a basement then the GSM device won't work. I totally disagree because when I lived in a condo, my carpark spot was in basement 3 and it still worked.
One thing that caught my attention were posts stating that thieves now have devices to jam any GSM tracking devices. I know these things exist but how about GPS? Those use satellites don't they? How does someone block such a signal? I think I might find out more from Peter on the validity of these statements.
Finally, I'm curious to know what the current methods are. Stealing cars in public places or from homes is a normal occurrence but what about car-jacking? Which of the two techniques is more popular now? I believe any car regardless of the level of security is most vulnerable in a carjacking situation. Not only is the owner in danger but the car is most likely to be driven off successfully.
I have heard of cases of this method backfiring though, because the majority of them although armed with their parangs are caught off guard because their target so happens to be carrying a licensed firearm. Of course, even if a car thief does have a gun himself does not mean he's any good. Legally, even if the car thief dies its very likely that you will go free because there is a legal precedent about 5-7 years back a lawyer shot dead another man in Bangsar and he was acquitted as it was self defense. Anyways, that's an extreme example since not everyone is licensed to carry a firearm and even if they were it's a hassle really because it's meant to be concealed at all times.
Coming back to the original topic, when performance cars like ours are stolen where are they usually headed for? I know that cars like Alphards (a Deputy Minister's was stolen recently in Damansara Perdana) etc usually go overseas in one piece; is this the same for Evos, Subarus and Skylines? The guys I spoke to usually go after Alphards, Harriers, Hilux, etc but have yet to speak to one that steals Evos, Subarus, Skylines etc. Do they strip the car locally? Or is the car meant for specific order in which case they would drive across the border/ship in container?
Like BNR, I found the threads there disturbing because thieves seem to be upgrading their technology. If they strip the car, then obviously your tracking device will be found. If they drive it across the border either north or south then at least you have more time to get customs to stop every single Evo/Subaru/Skyline or whatever car you have had stolen regardless of whether the number plate matches or even color matches.
So who worries constantly about their car and what other approaches have you guys taken to secure it - do not post details of alarm etc but other things such as not driving at night or never leaving your car with the valet etc.
Another option I considered was to have a removable steering wheel especially if you're going to leave the car for long periods. But then where do you find the boss kit? Hicas boss kits are easy enough but do they even have quick release ones?
I spoke to a few car thieves and in general, the longer it takes/harder it is to steal a car; the more likely it is that they will move on. This is for the types of cars that they regularly steal due to demand. Used to be Wish, then Hilux, etc. We're not talking about cars that are specifically targeted, but those that fall into the category of crime of opportunity. So short answer is yes definitely a deterrent but not impossible.
I've decided to paste Tom's question here since he kacau the other thread - only Perlis people would do such a thing
When I did my alarm system, I asked Peter frankly how many of his customer's cars were stolen and if I remember correctly (this was awhile ago) it was less than 5 but they were recovered further down the road. Firstly, the installation is very well done. Secondly, it's not a cheap RM700 alarm that you see advertised everywhere, multiply that by about 10 and you'd be close I think. How it works, what it does etc is best kept between you and your installer. The third reason is the use of additional modules/functions. There are also many other little things. Even having different keys for the boot and the doors is worth doing - luckily our cars come that way.
Security tint helps; slows thieves down. Especially if your alarm is so sensitive that it goes off when people lean against it, smashing repeatedly will surely trigger it. Helps if the car informs you that the alarm has been triggered as well. I hear people say that if the car is parked in a basement then the GSM device won't work. I totally disagree because when I lived in a condo, my carpark spot was in basement 3 and it still worked.
One thing that caught my attention were posts stating that thieves now have devices to jam any GSM tracking devices. I know these things exist but how about GPS? Those use satellites don't they? How does someone block such a signal? I think I might find out more from Peter on the validity of these statements.
Finally, I'm curious to know what the current methods are. Stealing cars in public places or from homes is a normal occurrence but what about car-jacking? Which of the two techniques is more popular now? I believe any car regardless of the level of security is most vulnerable in a carjacking situation. Not only is the owner in danger but the car is most likely to be driven off successfully.
I have heard of cases of this method backfiring though, because the majority of them although armed with their parangs are caught off guard because their target so happens to be carrying a licensed firearm. Of course, even if a car thief does have a gun himself does not mean he's any good. Legally, even if the car thief dies its very likely that you will go free because there is a legal precedent about 5-7 years back a lawyer shot dead another man in Bangsar and he was acquitted as it was self defense. Anyways, that's an extreme example since not everyone is licensed to carry a firearm and even if they were it's a hassle really because it's meant to be concealed at all times.
Coming back to the original topic, when performance cars like ours are stolen where are they usually headed for? I know that cars like Alphards (a Deputy Minister's was stolen recently in Damansara Perdana) etc usually go overseas in one piece; is this the same for Evos, Subarus and Skylines? The guys I spoke to usually go after Alphards, Harriers, Hilux, etc but have yet to speak to one that steals Evos, Subarus, Skylines etc. Do they strip the car locally? Or is the car meant for specific order in which case they would drive across the border/ship in container?
Like BNR, I found the threads there disturbing because thieves seem to be upgrading their technology. If they strip the car, then obviously your tracking device will be found. If they drive it across the border either north or south then at least you have more time to get customs to stop every single Evo/Subaru/Skyline or whatever car you have had stolen regardless of whether the number plate matches or even color matches.
So who worries constantly about their car and what other approaches have you guys taken to secure it - do not post details of alarm etc but other things such as not driving at night or never leaving your car with the valet etc.
