Engine oil service

[-lanz-]

How to determine an engine oil is for 5000km or 10000km?

 

[6UE5t]

I think most oils now can last 10k km or more. In the US where they go by miles instead of kms, they go by 10k miles which is 16k kms! So now depends on driving style and traffic condition I suppose. If you like to drive hard with high revs then may need sooner, or if you very often stuck in heavy traffic. But for me I just use full synth oils and just go with 10k km to match the oil filter change interval, so no need to think too much.

I would suggest to just follow the recommended change interval for your car and use the recommended oil grade as well, then should be fine.

 

[vr2turbo]

Most use FS for 10k km, SS 5k to 8k km, Mineral oil 5k km max.....

 

[vr2turbo]

I think most oils now can last 10k km or more. In the US where they go by miles instead of kms, they go by 10k miles which is 16k kms! So now depends on driving style and traffic condition I suppose. If you like to drive hard with high revs then may need sooner, or if you very often stuck in heavy traffic. But for me I just use full synth oils and just go with 10k km to match the oil filter change interval, so no need to think too much.

I would suggest to just follow the recommended change interval for your car and use the recommended oil grade as well, then should be fine.

But US have long life EO also. Those with extended mileage, because their cross country run is so much further than ours. Another issue is their expensive service charges. Here RM10 to change oil, there labor by hour....lol

 

[6UE5t]

But US have long life EO also. Those with extended mileage, because their cross country run is so much further than ours. Another issue is their expensive service charges. Here RM10 to change oil, there labor by hour....lol

Well US is just 1 example, in Europe also some manufacturers extends their service intervals beyond 10k kms. Anyway that proves the oils do indeed withstand up to that mileage. The oils that we're using here, so many are made or coming from US or Europe also. So if those oils are good enough to go such long distance there, then I think going 10k kms should not be much of an issue, but again like I said subject to how you drive and traffic and etc2.

 

[vr2turbo]

Now maybe better as we have Euro 4 fuel now. Those days when we had Euro 2 fuel the oil from EU it seems not so compatible (according to some friends) as in EU using the cleaner Euro 5 fuel, now Euro 6 I think....

 

[g4i8y0t]

If you're a Proton CFE engine user like me, better change your oil less than 10k km to prolong your turbo unit lifespan, even if you use fully synthetic oil. I don't think other turbo engines are as sensitive as this Proton turbo engine. I change the oil every 7,500 or 8,000km.

 

[vr2turbo]

If you're a Proton CFE engine user like me, better change your oil less than 10k km to prolong your turbo unit lifespan, even if you use fully synthetic oil. I don't think other turbo engines are as sensitive as this Proton turbo engine. I change the oil every 7,500 or 8,000km.

I agree to this. When I first started out in my VR, I use FS up to 10k km also. After 2 years use, got one time need to change top cover gasket so open up the internals quite dark unlike light brown color if oil were changed earlier. Now I change FS at 5k km but I do less mileage nowadays

 

[jeffayn]

Actually most modern engine oil from reputable oil manufacturer is good enough. If your car is experience unusual problem related to engine oil, maybe is time to look at other option or brand name which might suit you better.

Regard how to determine 5k or 10k, basically most synthetic based will last you above 10k and fully 20-25k but as i say the time between oil changes varies depending on the driver and driving conditions as well.

 

[sweelt]

After plunk in 93T in wira. Been using M7 engine oil fs.
Twice service d. I always follow 5k km.
This up coming Monday, going to service again.
I wanna try other brand. Any recommended?
MTF Gearbox oil too. How many bottle, brand?
Pls advice dear sifu's. Thanks in advanved.
Oil addictive, got avandtage?

 

[6UE5t]

After plunk in 93T in wira. Been using M7 engine oil fs.
Twice service d. I always follow 5k km.
This up coming Monday, going to service again.
I wanna try other brand. Any recommended?
MTF Gearbox oil too. How many bottle, brand?
Pls advice dear sifu's. Thanks in advanved.
Oil addictive, got avandtage?

Just buy whatever on sale in Tesco/AEON la, good enough already and will save you a lot of money! For example last time they had Total 5w40 FS oil for only rm130-140/5ltr! Now Tesco has promo for Castrol 5w30 FS oil, only rm 135/4ltr. Other choice is the Mitsubishi Eneos oil sold in AEON Jusco, the 5w40 FS oil can get o at only rm99/4ltr. Surely you've paid a lot more on those M7 oils, right? Also 5k km seems way too short, but I don't know how much you stress your 4G93T so cannot really comment.

Gearbox oil can just get Eneos 75w90 at AEON I Utama, only rm25/ltr, just need 2 ltrs I think.

Oil additives are not necessary la, those are just like snake oil products to con you. If those additive are really as good as what they claim, why the big oil companies not use them in the first place or the car manufacturers don't recommend them too? Buying good reputable engine oil is fine already, they contain the necessary additives already so no need to waste more money. Many of those so called additional additives actually do more harm to your engines!

 

[sweelt]

Thanks bro. Later I go Tesco buy. Hahaha...serious.
Yup M7 oil, wahahaa..I agree
Oil addictive I also sceptical...
All my car I stick to 5k km. At most also 6-7k.I not flooring pedal type driver.
Better spare couple hundreds. I don like silly mistake breakdown.

 

[6UE5t]

Thanks bro. Later I go Tesco buy. Hahaha...serious.
Yup M7 oil, wahahaa..I agree
Oil addictive I also sceptical...
All my car I stick to 5k km. At most also 6-7k.I not flooring pedal type driver.
Better spare couple hundreds. I don like silly mistake breakdown.

To me when I was using the 4G93/67/63 engines, usually I change at 7.5k km and I use the HLA lifter sound as my warning to change oil. If the Lifter sound getting more rougher then I usually would change it, but they never got too rough/loud anyway so the 7.5k km is good enough. Some times I did extend up to 10k km but usually they would already sound louder. These engines need to take care a bit for the HLA lifter coz easy to clog them especially the older version lifters which had smaller oil holes. Maybe for you since it's turbocharged then need more care/frequent oil change too.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Oil additives are not necessary la, those are just like snake oil products to con you. If those additive are really as good as what they claim, why the big oil companies not use them in the first place or the car manufacturers don't recommend them too? Buying good reputable engine oil is fine already, they contain the necessary additives already so no need to waste more money. Many of those so called additional additives actually do more harm to your engines!

The engine oil that I am using actually recommends adding additive to it. Bardahl 5W-40 FS. I wonder is it really necessary?

 

[vr2turbo]

Thanks bro. Later I go Tesco buy. Hahaha...serious.
Yup M7 oil, wahahaa..I agree
Oil addictive I also sceptical...
All my car I stick to 5k km. At most also 6-7k.I not flooring pedal type driver.
Better spare couple hundreds. I don like silly mistake breakdown.

I rather use cheaper oil but change more often, then use expensive oil and prolong the OCI.

Using turbo engine stick to 5k km is okay. I used to change at 10k km and found my engine internal quite dark, so now I change at 5k km already or 6 months since I run less mileage nowadays....

 

[vr2turbo]

The engine oil that I am using actually recommends adding additive to it. Bardahl 5W-40 FS. I wonder is it really necessary?

That is because the B1 additives are their product.......lol

 

[6UE5t]

The engine oil that I am using actually recommends adding additive to it. Bardahl 5W-40 FS. I wonder is it really necessary?

That is because the B1 additives are their product.......lol

Ya la, they want to sell their additives also leh! But at least I assume it should still be compatible with their own engine oil.

How much you bought that oil btw and how is it?

I rather use cheaper oil but change more often, then use expensive oil and prolong the OCI.

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Yes agree. For me though, I try to match the OCI with oil filter life so always change oil and filter at the same time to make things simple. So if the oil filter is recommended to 10k km then I use oil that should last the same (fs oil). If the filter is only recommended up to 5k km then I use lesser oil that last only 5k km (semi). Last time with the 4gxx engines with HLA I shorten up to 7.5k km to help preserve the HLA.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Ya la, they want to sell their additives also leh! But at least I assume it should still be compatible with their own engine oil.

How much you bought that oil btw and how is it?

Around RM110-RM120. I forgot the exact amount. My mechanic bought it together with a few other things during my last service including 2 bottles of gearbox oil.

Previously, I'm using Bardahl 10W-40 semi synthetic. This feels better than it. Revs feel lighter. Previously before using Bardahl, I'm using even worse kind of oil. 20W-50 Castrol GTX semi synthetic. After changing to Bardahl 10W-40, it really felt much better.


This is the gearbox oil that I'm using.

 

[6UE5t]

Around RM110-RM120. I forgot the exact amount. My mechanic bought it together with a few other things during my last service including 2 bottles of gearbox oil.

Previously, I'm using Bardahl 10W-40 semi synthetic. This feels better than it. Revs feel lighter. Previously before using Bardahl, I'm using even worse kind of oil. 20W-50 Castrol GTX semi synthetic. After changing to Bardahl 10W-40, it really felt much better.


This is the gearbox oil that I'm using.

Hmm not bad price, quite cheap also but I thought the 5w40 FS can get under rm100, no? Actually last time considering to try the Bardhal but since got Toyota Japan 5w30 FS oil for rm130, I tried that one instead.

How much you bought that Toyota 75w90 oil? I'm always using Eneos 75w90 bought at AEON 1 Utama for rm25/ltr. If that Toyota one is the same price or cheaper then I might try it also. Last time when I changed oil, the shop had that same Toyota gear oil but he was asking >rm30 I think so I decline.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Hmm not bad price, quite cheap also but I thought the 5w40 FS can get under rm100, no? Actually last time considering to try the Bardhal but since got Toyota Japan 5w30 FS oil for rm130, I tried that one instead.

How much you bought that Toyota 75w90 oil? I'm always using Eneos 75w90 bought at AEON 1 Utama for rm25/ltr. If that Toyota one is the same price or cheaper then I might try it also. Last time when I changed oil, the shop had that same Toyota gear oil but he was asking >rm30 I think so I decline.

Huh? I din't thought taht FS oil can get like under RM100. But previously my SS Bardahl I got around RM80 plus at January this year. This FS Bardahl I bought it on October.

The Toyota oil is around RM20 plus per bottle. Definitely less than RM30. Isn't Eneos better than Toyota?