Centrifugal s/c from australia for Mitsubishi engine

[Thoren]

Ahh... i c :redface:
thx Cavey

 

[Raptorsc]

Hello from Raptor S/C

Hello All

Just dropping by to say hello and help out if there is any tough questions. Synchron is doing a good job we think!

 

[Thoren]

Hello All

Just dropping by to say hello and help out if there is any tough questions. Synchron is doing a good job we think!

Gud day mate, how are you doing there?

Wondering did raptor produce other type of sc, like twinscrew? :hmmmm:

 

[synchron]

The owner of Raptor S/C is call Tim Staier. He will helping out to answer to answer the technical Q&A. Some of the question that you guys are asking are getting pretty tricky.

 

[Raptorsc]

Supercharger Types

Like all other manufacturers we have just one type that we specialise in, in this case we specialise in centrifugal only.

Its just too difficult to dance at every party at once

 

[mengz]

synchron, sorry to ask this coz i know u and gerard are good friends, but i think as potential consumers, its our right to know for comparison, so here's my question.

wats the difference between ur s/c kit and the one that gerard is offering? in terms of performance, hardware, setup and pricing.

and also, to Mr Tim Staier, whats the recommended compression ratio for the 4G93P if i were to s/c it using Raptors S/C Kit, lets say around 10psi of boost? coz the stock 4G93P is running at 10.0:1

Thanks! cheers mate!

 

[Raptorsc]

Compression ratio recommendation

I recommend that if 10psi is going to be used then compression ratio must NOT exceed 9.4:1 maximum.

At 10:1 I would suggest boost be limited to 6psi.

I will let Synchron elaborate on the differences between systems as I have no idea of what the other system is.

 

[Cavey]

To Mr Tim Staier,

Can the s/c kit be installed on to any other japanese engines besides mitsubishi?Lets say hondas?

Thanking in advance

 

[Raptorsc]

Applications for SC

A kit as such will always fit only the car it is made for. A kit comprises the SC and the multitude of other parts that allows a particular car to be successfully supercharged

However, the SC can be applied to engines of any size up to 4 liter and of any brand. It will be up to a local company to make a kit to suit other brands of cars.

 

[Cavey]

Thanks mate

 

[mengz]

I recommend that if 10psi is going to be used then compression ratio must NOT exceed 9.4:1 maximum.

At 10:1 I would suggest boost be limited to 6psi.

I will let Synchron elaborate on the differences between systems as I have no idea of what the other system is.

thanks for the reply. very informative. by the way, the 1.8 lancer that was done up by u guys thats clocking around 200+horses, wats the compression ratio on tat 4g93 sohc? stock internals? thicker head gasket to decrease the compression ratio? hope to get ur reply asap.

 

[Thoren]

Like all other manufacturers we have just one type that we specialise in, in this case we specialise in centrifugal only.

Its just too difficult to dance at every party at once

agree :top:

cheers mate :cheers:

 

[synchron]

Well! as we all know that roots charger are good at the low till the mid end torque and the centrifugal supercharger are great for mid till high end power.

Even the both of them are superchargers but they have different characteristics. It all depends on what you want. In this case you will have to try the product out first. Some individual might be on favour with the low end torque and some might be prefer the high end power.

Thoren! are u happy with the roots charger and it low end torque? U need to have faith in ur tuner.

There is good or no good in this term, just what you guys prefer.

LOW END TORQUE OR HIGH END POWER.

 

[Raptorsc]

Low end torque or high end efficiency

This post could be controversial but it is facts as I know them

Low end torque, low end torque is good for general stop start driving but an engine with these characteristics will have a limited top end power unless it has VTEC, MIVEC or some similar system to compensate.

Mid to High end efficiency/power is a good thing once engine is 3000 rpm and above because the engine power will increase almost exponentially until rev limit cuts engine power.

Now to compare, I know people who absolutely had to have low end torque and selected an SC system based on that or selected a larger engine in NA form, however, from experience you will never win a race from 0 - 140 kmh with with a low end torque engine. This is simply because you can never race using low engine rpm :D. So the centrifugal system will put you in the winners position more often because when the going gets tough ......... the tough get going. Centrifugal = higher rpm torque band which means super power in the part of the rpm band that will always put u in front all things being equal.

To put all this another way, with a centri SC 4 cyl you can race a car with 5.7 liter V8 engine and win because you have top end hit to put distance on the big engined car, but with low end torque the big V8 car will just pull away from u and u can never catch up cause you will have not enough top end.

 

[Thoren]

Thoren! are u happy with the roots charger and it low end torque? U need to have faith in ur tuner.

I believe no one in this world can say "Im very happy with my car and power and I wont change them in the rest of my life" That is why we need performance tuners and new cars :D

On the other hand I am not hard core racer and I just use my car as daily commuter, of course I wont mind if I can make it more fun to drive with more power for easy overtaking and fast acceleration.

It is base on this philosophy that I choose for positive displacement supercharger, and the results is just what I needed. :proud: The downside is to sacrifice some comfortness for daily driving, stiffer suspension, louder exhaust and engine sound :argh: (supercharger sound). My aim is to look for alternatives that can minimize all these discomfort. :stupido2:

Say for example to replace a new blower will give smoother engine idle, but it will cost you a fortune to import from the states, your raptor sc just happen to appear round the corner that is why Im hook up to find out more :pcguru:

 

[synchron]

I will leave Tim to answer you on the smoother idling part.

There will be more s/c MIT kaki from Aus will be joining this forum.

I think they can share some ideas and oppinion on the Raptor S/C.

I m glad that there are so many people are interested in the Raptor S/C.

Thank you guys for being supportive.

 

[InitialD]

What RaptorSC said does make some sense too.

 

[apai_Ngage]

Elops!! When is the stuff be available? Next year? Hahahahaha.... Or it is already in the market?

 

[synchron]

The owner is on Holiday now. He is crusing with his s/c 4g93 engine from Mackay down to Adelaide. It is about 6500KM one round trip. He will be back next week.

Only then he will be able to send me the charger for fab.

 

[apai_Ngage]

Aiya...... Does this stuff will be coming to our market? I`m losing my patience. Arghhh...... Please anybody. Who can get this stuff to be send here A.S.A.P.? Just reading the thread makes my head go wild. Hahahahahaha