vafc2 vs afc neo

[mdsb3]

vafc2 vs afc neo with one the best mapping(tuning) for vtec engine?
i mean in extreme vtec engine mod.
TQ

 

[shiroitenshi]

None.

Both of them do not allow ignition tune, which in conjunction with fuel tuning helps you make power.

But, they're quite good for mild modded engines though, where the tune doesn't go off much from the original settings. Stock car + intake + exhaust modification, vafc/neo tunes them quite well.

In terms of features, I still think they have the same amount of tuning points = 16, for the vafc2/neo. I think the major difference for both is that Neo introduces password protect, so people can't mess with your settings, and also the colour screen for the 'bling~bling!' factor.

Now if I missed any features, that possible, because I was playing with someone elses unit for a while. But my initial impressions are same.

If you say extreme mods as in 2L, (or more) high compression ratios, big cams, etc, then you'd see the need too to with standalone/advanced piggyback, as at this stage, your car probably idles quite roughly on the stock ECU, and you'd need more settings than what VAFC2/NEO provides.

 

[mdsb3]

ok sifu.good explaination.
tq

 

[Sato]

So how much would each of them cost ?

 

[shiroitenshi]

VAFC2 : about RM400-500 I think. Could be less, they're used items.

AFC NEO 1.3-1.4K?

 

[fobs]

So how much would each of them cost ?

gadget cost

afc neo = 1k
vafcII = dunno,... 6 or 7 hundred maybe
vafc = abt 400+

all these gadgets are hot item,... make sure u install and hide,...

 

[Sato]

gadget cost

afc neo = 1k
vafcII = dunno,... 6 or 7 hundred maybe
vafc = abt 400+

all these gadgets are hot item,... make sure u install and hide,...

Ur price is for brand new or used ?

 

[fobs]

Ur price is for brand new or used ?

brand n e w,...

 

[shiroitenshi]

Neo now 1K already? So fast... (>_>)

 

[fobs]

Neo now 1K already? So fast... (>_>)

fast drop issit?
i saw somewhere online selling new rm999,... i'm not very sure, saw in small performance shop selling rm1150,...

ahhh,... bro shiro,... cf4 obdII,... use what good ah? mild modded,...
vafc or vafcII??? i know neo use waste onli,... itz for ivtec.

 

[shiroitenshi]

fast drop issit?
i saw somewhere online selling new rm999,... i'm not very sure, saw in small performance shop selling rm1150,...

ahhh,... bro shiro,... cf4 obdII,... use what good ah? mild modded,...
vafc or vafcII??? i know neo use waste onli,... itz for ivtec.

Actually the VAFCII quite okay.. if you can get the limited edition, black is nicer than silver.

VAFC one also quite okay.. I think they're quite the same, except for less fuel points adjustment.

When you change extractor and exhaust, your AFR won't be the same like your original one, so using the VAFC can help you get back the smooth AFR curve. Neo actually quite usable.. it works like the old ones, except the colour meters are much nicer.

fortunately, your CF4 is the OBDII that's not running off the widebands like the new odessey.. those sensors cost near 1K! and they spoil quite often too.

There's a benefit to those sensors though, and that is they're really self tuned. (O_o)

 

[fobs]

Actually the VAFCII quite okay.. if you can get the limited edition, black is nicer than silver.

VAFC one also quite okay.. I think they're quite the same, except for less fuel points adjustment.

When you change extractor and exhaust, your AFR won't be the same like your original one, so using the VAFC can help you get back the smooth AFR curve. Neo actually quite usable.. it works like the old ones, except the colour meters are much nicer.

fortunately, your CF4 is the OBDII that's not running off the widebands like the new odessey.. those sensors cost near 1K! and they spoil quite often too.

There's a benefit to those sensors though, and that is they're really self tuned. (O_o)

and obdII, has memory instilled in the ecu, we cant reset the ecu by disconnecting the battery,...

hehe! tx for the explaination

 

[evoX2]

fyi, vafc 2 new one still need RM900++, used RM750.
vafc 1 used one around RM500

For that price e-manage would be better bang for $

 

[fobs]

fyi, vafc 2 new one still need RM900++, used RM750.
vafc 1 used one around RM500

For that price e-manage would be better bang for $

vafc2 so expensive? then add puluh puluh ringgit, get neo better rite? got kaler!, hehe!

emanage, hondata, etc,... more wild modd only use, rite? me kecik mayong modd,...

 

[ferio94eg9]

i'm just wondering, let's say i've got myself a vafc n tune it on dyno. then i wrote down the setting and keep it for my references. the question is, if i try to play around with the setting (let's say not less/more than 5% that have been set earlier) on a try n error basis, would it change my powerband? n if i am not statisfy with the new setting n set back the vafc based on dyno settings would i get the same powerband as per setting after the dyno......tq

 

[evoX2]

i'm just wondering, let's say i've got myself a vafc n tune it on dyno. then i wrote down the setting and keep it for my references. the question is, if i try to play around with the setting (let's say not less/more than 5% that have been set earlier) on a try n error basis, would it change my powerband? n if i am not statisfy with the new setting n set back the vafc based on dyno settings would i get the same powerband as per setting after the dyno......tq

yes u can but what's the point? u need to have dyno or wide band in order to tune it accurately. but u still can play with it, maybe the vtec point :P

 

[shiroitenshi]

vafc2 so expensive? then add puluh puluh ringgit, get neo better rite? got kaler!, hehe!

emanage, hondata, etc,... more wild modd only use, rite? me kecik mayong modd,...

Hondata.. actually quite fun to play with, if you want features.. you can even overlay your engine readout on video, like I did in my hondata thread.

I also set it so that a/c turns off at 4.5K, which is okay, because I hardly rev more than that unless overtaking lorries.

also useful to find out if you want to know your driving pattern and average speed on a daily drive and many more..

now, I can sit back, add part by part and tune as the engine's ability to make power improves.

As for wild mod.. maybe true partially.. I can run a turbo without resorting to a map cheat.. a china made T3/T4 turbine starts to look pretty tempting now. :P

 

[fobs]

Hondata.. actually quite fun to play with, if you want features.. you can even overlay your engine readout on video, like I did in my hondata thread.

I also set it so that a/c turns off at 4.5K, which is okay, because I hardly rev more than that unless overtaking lorries.

also useful to find out if you want to know your driving pattern and average speed on a daily drive and many more..

now, I can sit back, add part by part and tune as the engine's ability to make power improves.

As for wild mod.. maybe true partially.. I can run a turbo without resorting to a map cheat.. a china made T3/T4 turbine starts to look pretty tempting now. :P

4.5k rpm consider quite hi rev already, rite? i was told that it is not good to switch on or off ur aircon at hi rpm,...

hmmm?

everytime i think i'll be redlining,... i get ready, switch off aircond 1st at lower rpm,... then ok go, vrooooom prannnnnnngggggggg!!!

bro shiro,... that 421 mugen extractor for sale kah?

 

[shiroitenshi]

4.5k rpm consider quite hi rev already, rite? i was told that it is not good to switch on or off ur aircon at hi rpm,...

hmmm?

everytime i think i'll be redlining,... i get ready, switch off aircond 1st at lower rpm,... then ok go, vrooooom prannnnnnngggggggg!!!

Hahaha.

Heh.. this one, it turns off at 4.5K, and then if I drop below 4.5K, then the air cond will engage back.. no need to fiddle with the a/c switch. So far, no issues la.

bro shiro,... that 421 mugen extractor for sale kah?

Yes, it is.

 

[7curse]

what is the stage 1 modification..details plz...