Adding 2T as petrol additives...

[ronaldindin]

I think bro. TR using them, for me I manage to get FD grade from warehouse sale....

Any online seller selling all this? Better use a better quality one

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MMO's application is similiar to 2T oil but MMO's abit more expensive. However, it's a proven methods in US.

MMO? some type of oil? Any idea on where can I get it?

 

[risyia]

MMO is Mystery Marvel Oil - u can find it in ACE Hardware Store, about RM30++ per bottle.

 

[amrancharger]

manage to find a 2t with rating jaso fd but it is the synthetic blend from mobil.can this be use?or i should find the fully synthetic 2T?
cannot find any outboard tcw3 anywhere...

 

[twistedichc]

ya lah... sohai put 2T into EX5 fuel tank... but the moron dun even know wats the good smell from EX5 that put 2t into fuel tank & makes lotsa smoke all the way.... ahhahaa

aiyah now talking bout 2t mix wit petrol mah, once use the smoke to chase away flies backyard in 1 single ramp

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

manage to find a 2t with rating jaso fd but it is the synthetic blend from mobil.can this be use?or i should find the fully synthetic 2T?
cannot find any outboard tcw3 anywhere...

can be used.....


btw tcw3 i not recommend on cars..because it have a bit more carbon build-up than other 2t oil rated for motorcycle use (higher rpm usage)


*tcw3 is for outboard marine engine use which is running average lower rpm

 

[xbalance2002]

currently i think my best mileage able to archive for my little car is around RM 0.11 per KM with result of yesterday today drive from shah alam to bentong to raub back to petaling jaya to shah alam then nite time to genting back to petaling jaya then back to shah alam with 511km of driving and total use of petrol 30 liter all my record was monitor using scangauge and average speed between 80~120kmh (exclude genting speed only between 50~80kmh) few time speed between 140~160kmh....

notice this result during recent few pump, if i control not to speed just follow speed limit i think i able to archive 600km of distance as my current is about 590km.

 

[ronaldindin]

Still not able to get good grade of 2T oil. Managed to find only JASO-C around my place sigh

 

[meg_omen]

can be used.....


btw tcw3 i not recommend on cars..because it have a bit more carbon build-up than other 2t oil rated for motorcycle use (higher rpm usage)


*tcw3 is for outboard marine engine use which is running average lower rpm

been using this on my rxz for closed to 3yr, Maxoil brand... no carbon built-up at all...
well i haven't tried on my car... not complete yet...:hmmmm:

 

[peeche]

i've tried and monitor for 3 full tank..
my mixture is 50ml/RM25@13liter..
so full tank is 200ml/RM100
so far there is improvement..

before -: RM50 (half tank of fuel) can go average 200km
after -: RM50 already pass 220km mark and the fuel light is not blinking yet!

i use shell VSX 2t.. JASO FC only.
by the way last night my plug shows some fouling.. but for 5 seconds only..
dunno because of the mixture or it's the time to change the plug already.
already plug about 73k km with the plug.

 

[vr2turbo]

Still not able to get good grade of 2T oil. Managed to find only JASO-C around my place sigh

Some using grade C only, some even B. D I think is synthetic and more expensive....

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

B n C grades leave significantly more deposits...

 

[me2kimi]

Hi, I've found pro and con using this mixture.

Pro: may get lower FC and engine fell smoother

Con: engine pinging and loss of engine power.

 

[vr2turbo]

B n C grades leave significantly more deposits...

Thanks for the info, so D is best?

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Hi, I've found pro and con using this mixture.

Pro: may get higher FC and engine fell smoother

Con: engine pinging and loss of engine power.

Ah! how can higher FC be pro? or do you mean lower FC as in better mileage

 

[me2kimi]

Thanks for the info, so D is best?

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Ah! how can higher FC be pro? or do you mean lower FC as in better mileage

Should be LOWER FC. sorry my bad

 

[vr2turbo]

Should be LOWER FC. sorry my bad

Noted, brother.....but yours pinging?
My turbo used to knock with Ron 95, then use Ron97, then with additives with Ron95, now Ron95 with 2T also running well....

 

[Izso]

Noted, brother.....but yours pinging?
My turbo used to knock with Ron 95, then use Ron97, then with additives with Ron95, now Ron95 with 2T also running well....

I don't understand how this works for you. Pinging or knocking is when you get pre-ignition. 2T isn't an octane booster so how does it reduce or stop pinging? :hmmmm:

 

[Dayline668]

Saw a botol of mobil 1 racing 2t, its design to eliminates pre-ignition. On my 1st test tank on my old corolla, engine NVH reduce, feel bit more torque, still monitoring FC n will check plug on every tank.
Mobil 1 Racing™ 2T - Malaysia | Mobil™ Asia Pacific

 

[vr2turbo]

I don't understand how this works for you. Pinging or knocking is when you get pre-ignition. 2T isn't an octane booster so how does it reduce or stop pinging? :hmmmm:

I am not a technical person, so just adding 2T as a test. If it works all the better for me, then I can use Ron95 with it. Anyway this was the article I read....maybe you can understand it better....

"A chemical normally known for its role in the manufacture of synthetic rubber may lead to cleaner-burning, more-fuel-efficient cars and trucks.

Automobiles using the polymer additive, called polyisobutylene, decrease their emissions by 70 percent, says Paul F. Waters of American University in Washington, D.C. What's more, mileage goes up 20 percent, while horsepower increases 10 percent, he says.

Due to the emissions improvements and fuel savings, Waters says, polyisobutylene "reduces the number of gases that potentially lead to global warming."

Waters reported the results in late August at the 220th national meeting of the American Chemical Society in Washington, D.C.

Gasoline is a menagerie of hydrocarbon molecules that differ in size and shape. Short molecules generally burn very quickly, causing temperature and pressure inside an engine to rise in a dramatic spike. That creates engine knock and emissions of nitrous oxide pollution. Meanwhile, longer hydrocarbons burn more slowly and incompletely, which raises exhaust temperature and leaves remnants of hydrocarbons that contribute to soot and other forms of pollution.

Polyisobutylene appears to slightly delay the burning of short hydrocarbon molecules, which then hasten the burning of the longer hydrocarbons, Waters says. With the additive, therefore, the fuel burns more completely and engine and exhaust temperatures drop significantly.

Waters suspects that polyisobutylene changes the surface tension of fuel droplets, preventing short hydrocarbons from immediately vaporizing when gasoline is sprayed into the engine. The delay apparently is "long enough, so that. . .the two components evaporate more or less in the same physical region in space and then they burn more or less together," says Waters.

"I think Paul has some intriguing results that could be very promising for the automotive industry," comments Graham Swift, a polymer chemist and independent consultant outside of Philadelphia. "It sounds delightfully simple and promising to me. We tend not to look for simple solutions."

"What I like about his approach was that he looked at combustion, and he looked at what controls combustion, and then applied it to the internal combustion engine," says Swift. With better control over the fuel droplets, Swift says, "the better your combustion, the better your fuel consumption, the better your automotive horsepower, the less incomplete combustion you get, and that means you've got less noxious fumes coming out."

So far, Waters and his colleagues have tested the additive on a dozen automobiles in three states and several other countries. Waters points out that 50 other cars also have shown improved performance with the additive.

Waters says the mileage benefits could pay for the cost of the fuel additive—perhaps 10 cents a gallon, he says. Polyisobutylene works well in diesel engines, too, he adds.

"This is of course useful for global warming, but it's also useful for the vehicle and the engine itself," says Waters. "When the engine operates at a lower overall temperature, there's less wear and tear on all the parts. The less temperature that you impose on any of these devices, the longer they're going to last, and in principle, the less your repair bill is going to be."

 

[Izso]

Interesting! So instead of increasing octane it delays ignition. I wonder if Civic Type-R and Swift Sport can use these 2T additives rather than using Octane 97

 

[meg_omen]

last tried on my 4age 20v...
becomes sluggish with more prominent pinging...
probably not for high compression engine...:hmmmm: