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Ya might need 18" adi. I think twin pot is enough for me. Sales figure bridgestone. Surprisingly.
I think Most Expensive category brand can be Michelin and GY.

Ya such as 595 RSR and AD08R right? All the while i thought these are Semis until now only know is Extreme. Like that I get confuse on how to know it is semi. So ATR K sports is Extreme instead?
Expensive in Malaysia is Michelin, Pirelli and Continental too.

Yup, extreme nowadays have deeper and more groove pattern so it is in between semi and Max. Semi pattern really very little one....:driver:
 

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Ya might need 18" adi. I think twin pot is enough for me. Sales figure bridgestone. Surprisingly.
I think Most Expensive category brand can be Michelin and GY.

Ya such as 595 RSR and AD08R right? All the while i thought these are Semis until now only know is Extreme. Like that I get confuse on how to know it is semi. So ATR K sports is Extreme instead?
I was thinking Pirelli's are expensive as heck because of P-zero's. Guess I'm wrong.
Max category? Never heard of it before. Take Toyo for example. What's between T1R and R1R? RA1?
 

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I was thinking Pirelli's are expensive as heck because of P-zero's. Guess I'm wrong.
Max category? Never heard of it before. Take Toyo for example. What's between T1R and R1R? RA1?
In Malaysia Pirelli is expensive.

T1-Sports, the new asymmetric pattern....:driver:

There is another Proxes 1 but not in Toyo my website.

RA1 is competition tyres....:biggrin:
 
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...I think Most Expensive category brand can be Michelin and GY.
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GY is middle la except maybe the Assy2 but the rest are cheaper than Michelin. For example my 215/50/17 F1-D5 is around rm400 but the same size and category Michelin PS3 costs about 500+.
 

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Yeah I saw the Proxes 1 too. Its supposed to be higher than R888? Or just max?
R888 are semi slicks. Proxes 1 is Max together with T1-Sports, but sits above it....:driver:

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GY is middle la except maybe the Assy2 but the rest are cheaper than Michelin. For example my 215/50/17 F1-D5 is around rm400 but the same size and category Michelin PS3 costs about 500+.
F1-D5 is cheaper range. PS3 is Asy 2 range for comparison....:driver:
 

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So... basically it's still RA1 > R888 > R1R > Proxes 1 = T1-Sports > T1R?
U cant judge by this way, each pattern have their own characteristic.
Example
R888 - Maximum in Dry performance, but will loss control in wet.
R1R - Good in Dry performance, as well as wet condition.
T1S - More suitable to continental car (high torque) like VW, BMW, Mercedes ....
T1R - Overall performance tyre, good in dry or wet.

There are no THE BEST TYRE, only have the best tyre fit your requirement.
Think deeply, Why tyre maker create so many different pattern/category ?
Because every user need are different.
 
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i always need to go outstation like from KL to JB, or to Penang.. so luckily i have my most satisfied tires so far.. which is michelin ps3.. no problem in going high speed on highway, cornering in high speed is superb, and sensitive braking system!
 

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F1-D5 is cheaper range. PS3 is Asy 2 range for comparison....:driver:
But it's the same performance class: traction AA, tread wear low 300. (D5 300, PS3 320).
Asy 2 also does not have that size while both D5 & PS3 are available in a very wide range of sizes even down to 15'.
 

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U cant judge by this way, each pattern have their own characteristic.
Example
R888 - Maximum in Dry performance, but will loss control in wet.
R1R - Good in Dry performance, as well as wet condition.
T1S - More suitable to continental car (high torque) like VW, BMW, Mercedes ....
T1R - Overall performance tyre, good in dry or wet.

There are no THE BEST TYRE, only have the best tyre fit your requirement.
Think deeply, Why tyre maker create so many different pattern/category ?
Because every user need are different.
True that. I was merely comparing the tyres in terms of dry handling. Thanks for the clarification though!
 

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But it's the same performance class: traction AA, tread wear low 300. (D5 300, PS3 320).
Asy 2 also does not have that size while both D5 & PS3 are available in a very wide range of sizes even down to 15'.
Before Asy and Asy 2 there was F1 GS-D3 in 15". Asy was design for Max performance so sizes starts at 17" and 45 series aspect ratio. To cater for 15", you get F1-D5 only.
You cannot judge tyre category by threadwear and traction rating. Achilles ATR Sports also Traction AA woh!
 

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Before Asy and Asy 2 there was F1 GS-D3 in 15". Asy was design for Max performance so sizes starts at 17" and 45 series aspect ratio. To cater for 15", you get F1-D5 only.
You cannot judge tyre category by threadwear and traction rating. Achilles ATR Sports also Traction AA woh!
ATR sports Traction AA but threadwear 420 I think :love:

PP2 is which category? Since also Traction AA haha!

I remember F1-D5 get quite a lot of negative feedback. Seems a lot came back saying not good?
 

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ATR sports Traction AA but threadwear 420 I think :love:

PP2 is which category? Since also Traction AA haha!

I remember F1-D5 get quite a lot of negative feedback. Seems a lot came back saying not good?
PP2 is below PS3, kind of same with F1-D5. F1-D5 okay mah! but of course below Asy2....:driver:
 

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i always need to go outstation like from KL to JB, or to Penang.. so luckily i have my most satisfied tires so far.. which is michelin ps3.. no problem in going high speed on highway, cornering in high speed is superb, and sensitive braking system!
why race for speed ? no need la..later kena saman .. have to avoid saman ma
 

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why race for speed ? no need la..later kena saman .. have to avoid saman ma
Too much thing to be worried. Might as well enjoy the drive.
If want to get worried, there are more things than Summon Tickets alone.

What if the car from opposite fly over to my lane?
What if someone rear ended me when I'm driving?
What if I accidentally rear ended the car in front?
What if the overhead bridge fall on my car when I go pass it?
What if I hit and kill a bird?

Too many What if...just enjoy the drive. :smokin:

Just have to make sure car is in good condition and choose a suitable tyre that can take such beating.
 

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Too much thing to be worried. Might as well enjoy the drive.
If want to get worried, there are more things than Summon Tickets alone.

What if the car from opposite fly over to my lane?
What if someone rear ended me when I'm driving?
What if I accidentally rear ended the car in front?
What if the overhead bridge fall on my car when I go pass it?
What if I hit and kill a bird?

Too many What if...just enjoy the drive. :smokin:

Just have to make sure car is in good condition and choose a suitable tyre that can take such beating.
Too many what if, then stay home......:smokin:
 

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Before Asy and Asy 2 there was F1 GS-D3 in 15". Asy was design for Max performance so sizes starts at 17" and 45 series aspect ratio. To cater for 15", you get F1-D5 only.
You cannot judge tyre category by threadwear and traction rating. Achilles ATR Sports also Traction AA woh!
Well those are the only available specs but yeah maybe below but I think slightly only, still almost comparable. Asymetric tires with the same rating theoretically should have more grip due to bigger outside blocks.
I don't trust Achilles yet though. :D The cheapest tire I still trust so far is GT Radial which maybe will be my next purchase for replacement (but depending on available budget during purchase).

ATR sports Traction AA but threadwear 420 I think :love:

PP2 is which category? Since also Traction AA haha!

I remember F1-D5 get quite a lot of negative feedback. Seems a lot came back saying not good?
PP2 is also almost the same class I think, asymetric with treadwear also even lower if I'm not mistaken (<300). I used the first PP and very satisifed with it, very good dry & wet grip and quite silent as well.

Well to me D5 is actually pretty good performance tire for the money, maybe only beaten by GT Radial HPY coz that one is cheaper. Dry and wet grip is very good and handling quite predictable. To me the main downsides are a bit noisy and directional pattern hence not easy to rotate.
 

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Well those are the only available specs but yeah maybe below but I think slightly only, still almost comparable. Asymetric tires with the same rating theoretically should have more grip due to bigger outside blocks.
I don't trust Achilles yet though. :D The cheapest tire I still trust so far is GT Radial which maybe will be my next purchase for replacement (but depending on available budget during purchase).

PP2 is also almost the same class I think, asymetric with treadwear also even lower if I'm not mistaken (<300). I used the first PP and very satisifed with it, very good dry & wet grip and quite silent as well.

Well to me D5 is actually pretty good performance tire for the money, maybe only beaten by GT Radial HPY coz that one is cheaper. Dry and wet grip is very good and handling quite predictable. To me the main downsides are a bit noisy and directional pattern hence not easy to rotate.
Yes 280 Threadwear. Really like the dry and wet grip. Wanted to try ATR K Economist which is actually RM100 cheaper per piece if compare to PP2. Specs looks and sounds good but just doubt it will be as good as PP2. So, kinda more like "have to try to find out".

Looks like is Symmetrical Pattern.



Since PP2 only have size for Kelisa and no other, worried that it will stop production one day as well. Makes me feel to get it again while they are still producing it. Only try other tyres once they stop producing it :biggrin:

ATR K Sports threadwear don't look good on wet also got feedback best not to exceed 60 when it is raining even the size of the tyre is small but aquaplanning is not good. Well, can't expect to have good aquaplanning with that kind of thread patterns.

 

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Well, use according to what the tyres are designed for. PP2 pay high price for good performance. You skim RM100 per tyre then don't expect what PP2 can give to you, but what K Economist can offer. Anyway the name speaks for itself "Economist" not "Performist".....hahhahahhaha:biggrin:

Even my friend on his EvoX on extreme tyres drives below 80kph when rain....:thefinger:
 

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Well, use according to what the tyres are designed for. PP2 pay high price for good performance. You skim RM100 per tyre then don't expect what PP2 can give to you, but what K Economist can offer. Anyway the name speaks for itself "Economist" not "Performist".....hahhahahhaha:biggrin:

Even my friend on his EvoX on extreme tyres drives below 80kph when rain....:thefinger:
Ya, saw many performance car usually slow down when it is raining. Usually speeding "U know what car la when it rains" :biggrin:
 

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Mouse Deer.....hahhahhahaha:biggrin:

When my tyre new time also got speed......hhhahahhahahhahaa:rofl:
No la, mousdeer rain time no speed mia...only the next generation of perodua after Kancil and Kelisa.
 

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Sure know loh! Top 10 car mah!.....hhahahhahah

But kancil with skinny tyres can run fast in the rain......:driver::biggrin:
Like bicycle :)
 

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ATR K Sports threadwear don't look good on wet also got feedback best not to exceed 60 when it is raining even the size of the tyre is small but aquaplanning is not good. Well, can't expect to have good aquaplanning with that kind of thread patterns.

Looks more like superbike tires than car tires!:biggrin:
 

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Saw at Hup Shun, Looks nice. 165/50R15 size.....:driver:
But this size for kelisa i remember u said might have chances in scraping fender a bit right?

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I didnt even notice it. Heh.
He doesn't get the title Tyre Sifu for nothing ma haha! :biggrin:
 

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But this size for kelisa i remember u said might have chances in scraping fender a bit right?

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He doesn't get the title Tyre Sifu for nothing ma haha! :biggrin:
Rims offset is another thing.
This 165/50R15 is ok, not 175/50R15, but then if 165 size might as well keep to 165/55R14, as same width only.........hhahahahhaha:rofl:
I was looking around, waiting for him. He came and deal more on his car and then look at some rims only. He more interested in his RE-002 mah.....:biggrin:
 

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Rims offset is another thing.
This 165/50R15 is ok, not 175/50R15, but then if 165 size might as well keep to 165/55R14, as same width only.........hhahahahhaha:rofl:
I was looking around, waiting for him. He came and deal more on his car and then look at some rims only. He more interested in his RE-002 mah.....:biggrin:
Ya but 15" with 50 profile. Will look better ma :biggrin: But need to use lightweight rims, if not FC and weight of the car affected :love:

But 165/50/15 no PP2, so I'll stick to current size :rofl:

Ya, he was asking me what to take extra caution when going there, until he mention u will be there, then I say nothing else to worry when having u there haha!

I found a review on which shop to go for on Tyres but more to Rims especially. But 2009 post though. Will post up later as a guide on where and what to do when sourcing rims.
 

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Ya but 15" with 50 profile. Will look better ma :biggrin: But need to use lightweight rims, if not FC and weight of the car affected :love:

But 165/50/15 no PP2, so I'll stick to current size :rofl:

Ya, he was asking me what to take extra caution when going there, until he mention u will be there, then I say nothing else to worry when having u there haha!

I found a review on which shop to go for on Tyres but more to Rims especially. But 2009 post though. Will post up later as a guide on where and what to do when sourcing rims.
He ask you, then you should be there loh......hhahahhahahah:rofl:

Rim shop last time got one in Glenmarie but close down liao......:rolleyes:
 

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Rims offset is another thing.
This 165/50R15 is ok, not 175/50R15, but then if 165 size might as well keep to 165/55R14, as same width only.........hhahahahhaha:rofl:
I was looking around, waiting for him. He came and deal more on his car and then look at some rims only. He more interested in his RE-002 mah.....:biggrin:
I was busy fanboying ad050's. Oops.
 

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last time while doing allignment at a shop in Lukut PD i saw a semi slick tyre in ver small size.
i went closer to see it its really small or the widely available size 15'.
closer inspection reveal it was 14 inch.not sure what brand but there is ATR written on the side.was abt to walk away when i recall i have a blm with stock rim at home...end up staring at the tire for few minutes.
 

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last time while doing allignment at a shop in Lukut PD i saw a semi slick tyre in ver small size.
i went closer to see it its really small or the widely available size 15'.
closer inspection reveal it was 14 inch.not sure what brand but there is ATR written on the side.was abt to walk away when i recall i have a blm with stock rim at home...end up staring at the tire for few minutes.
ATR K Sports have 14" and looks like semi......:rolleyes:
 

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He ask you, then you should be there loh......hhahahhahahah:rofl:

Rim shop last time got one in Glenmarie but close down liao......:rolleyes:
Seems the cheapest place to get rims and trade in High Value is Rawang. Not really the well known Kedai Papan.
 

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Same lah! Distance, toll, time. I have heard of horror stories from Rawang also....
 

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Same lah! Distance, toll, time. I have heard of horror stories from Rawang also....
Is it? Later I share. U see if it is the horror shop LOL!