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I wrote earlier that he wants a 9 year loan what. 5 year loan is suicide.

Another friend of mine did it. Proton Saga FLX. 5 year loan because he wants a lower interest rate. RM700 a month and he is earning like RM2k plus while staying at KL. Sounds like a lot of pain to the pocket.
5 years loan still okay, but 9 years loan, the car might have more issues after 6 to 7 years on and maintenance and repairs cost may be much higher from there on
 

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5 years loan still okay, but 9 years loan, the car might have more issues after 6 to 7 years on and maintenance and repairs cost may be much higher from there on
I agree, especially on high tech cars like CX-3 with a lot of sensors and electronics. CBU car as well, parts are not going to be cheap for sure...

But not all cars will have problems after 6 to 7 years. Like the Myvi in my house, coming to 11 years already. So far everything is okay except one time where my aunt crashed the car at KL. My Avanza at home is coming to 8 years old soon and is still fine everywhere except one of the rear brake lamp is always not working. But then again, Myvi and Avanza are built using Toyota's technology. Very basic cars too. :rofl:
 

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Some ppl suffered hardship or got into financial prob becoz of their poor knowledge of their cars, some owners were ignorant pricks. Don't believe or heed others advice. Some just dunggu kena tipu and bought a lemon from the start.

This doesnt stop there. Some car manufacturers "tend" to simplify many things, or put many term and (hidden) condition in fine prints when selling their cars.....and give the car owners the impression that new car ownership is just oh-so-simple. Just pay and drive kinda thing. Bank loan now can drag to 9 years. In the future, it might be 12 years. Means what? Syukur?? or Longer hutang??.....and prepare for more problem.

Some owners are damn happy becoz their new car gets extended warranty, free service, this and that from SC. They thought they had a good deal. However, of numerous service at SC, the owners found out they are bounded by many restriction, poor service, expensive parts, delay, etc.....Die-die have to go back to SC.

Who is smart and who is dumb now?
 

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I agree, especially on high tech cars like CX-3 with a lot of sensors and electronics. CBU car as well, parts are not going to be cheap for sure...

But not all cars will have problems after 6 to 7 years. Like the Myvi in my house, coming to 11 years already. So far everything is okay except one time where my aunt crashed the car at KL. My Avanza at home is coming to 8 years old soon and is still fine everywhere except one of the rear brake lamp is always not working. But then again, Myvi and Avanza are built using Toyota's technology. Very basic cars too. :rofl:
That depends on luck also and usage. Probably yours under normal or low mileage, right?
 

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He worked overseas is it? If he worked overseas, then no problem buying expensive cars. :biggrin:

If study overseas and come back, better don't burn more money. Already spent a lot outside Malaysia.
no he studied there ==" how he bayar for his cars... well........................ and lepas balik pun... i duno how he can even afford a beemer~
 

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Some ppl suffered hardship or got into financial prob becoz of their poor knowledge of their cars, some owners were ignorant pricks. Don't believe or heed others advice. Some just dunggu kena tipu and bought a lemon from the start.

This doesnt stop there. Some car manufacturers "tend" to simplify many things, or put many term and (hidden) condition in fine prints when selling their cars.....and give the car owners the impression that new car ownership is just oh-so-simple. Just pay and drive kinda thing. Bank loan now can drag to 9 years. In the future, it might be 12 years. Means what? Syukur?? or Longer hutang??.....and prepare for more problem.

Some owners are damn happy becoz their new car gets extended warranty, free service, this and that from SC. They thought they had a good deal. However, of numerous service at SC, the owners found out they are bounded by many restriction, poor service, expensive parts, delay, etc.....Die-die have to go back to SC.

Who is smart and who is dumb now?
Hahahahaha, true about the SC issues. I always don't trust much on local SC. They charge extra for this and that. Yet, they don't let you get close to your car while they are working on it. Then how am I suppose to learn what did the mechanic do and talk to the mechanic. Normally, I'm always standing beside my mechanic when he is fixing my car. He told me that I am the only one who did this. Most owners will go back and come back for the car later.

That depends on luck also and usage. Probably yours under normal or low mileage, right?
Normal I guess. Not much of long distance travelling. Most also Ipoh to KL only. My Wira's mileage is higher. Mostly gained during the years that my uncle borrowed the Wira for use. He use it for 4 years and he did a lot of travelling. I think when he borrowed it, it was around 130k km and when I got it back, mileage is at 190k km. Around 60k km in 4 years.

no he studied there ==" how he bayar for his cars... well........................ and lepas balik pun... i duno how he can even afford a beemer~
Buy 2nd hand E46 BMW can what. RM30k plus. :biggrin: Got manual gearbox also for some...
 

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Buy 2nd hand E46 BMW can what. RM30k plus. :biggrin: Got manual gearbox also for some...
hoho e46.. manuals not that cheap... but the 1.9 autos can go for much lower than that. (20k or so)
be warned... these things not cheap to jaga.
*one i really liked are the 3l coupes... iirc now under 40k but the damned tax... die...
 

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hoho e46.. manuals not that cheap... but the 1.9 autos can go for much lower than that. (20k or so)
be warned... these things not cheap to jaga.
*one i really liked are the 3l coupes... iirc now under 40k but the damned tax... die...
Other than the nice badge and good styling, there is nothing much I like about E46 manual. :biggrin: There are better manual cars alternatives at that price range.

Parts cost must be expensive... Now E60 5 series is also suffering. Seeing some selling under RM50k. Cheaper than Myvi 1.5. :rofl: Nice car, but only if you have the money to maintain it.
 

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Beemers are towkay cars. Anything rosak, can send to workshop and company pays for the repair, whatever the damage was. Boss will drive the car and show to ppl his status.

For wage earner, to own a BMW can be risky. Wrong day, the beemer go into workshop....the repair bill would be shocking until no mood to eat rice liow (Banyak Masuk Workshop & Banyak Makan Wang fame). hahahah....
 

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Normal I guess. Not much of long distance travelling. Most also Ipoh to KL only. My Wira's mileage is higher. Mostly gained during the years that my uncle borrowed the Wira for use. He use it for 4 years and he did a lot of travelling. I think when he borrowed it, it was around 130k km and when I got it back, mileage is at 190k km. Around 60k km in 4 years.
I heard normal mileage is around 20k km per year so 60k km in 4 years is still below average
 

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Beemers are towkay cars. Anything rosak, can send to workshop and company pays for the repair, whatever the damage was. Boss will drive the car and show to ppl his status.

For wage earner, to own a BMW can be risky. Wrong day, the beemer go into workshop....the repair bill would be shocking until no mood to eat rice liow (Banyak Masuk Workshop & Banyak Makan Wang fame). hahahah....
Like a friend of mine who bought a used E36, planning to convert it to 2JZ-GTE later. But now before he got the money to swap, his 318i seems to be giving a few problems already. One of it is something to do with fuel delivery. Whenever his revs his RPM high and releases the throttle, the engine will be shaking badly and the engine will just shut off unless you continue pressing the throttle. He says the fuel delivery is not enough.

I heard normal mileage is around 20k km per year so 60k km in 4 years is still below average
20k km per year? That sounds like a lot. When he car is borrowed to my uncle in 2009, the mileage is probably around 120-130k km. That time, the car is just 10 years old.

Now during my usage since November 2013 (192k km) to now, is around 21k km. Current mileage is 213k km. I guess my car is underused by me. 3 years but only done 21k km.
 

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Other than the nice badge and good styling, there is nothing much I like about E46 manual. :biggrin: There are better manual cars alternatives at that price range.

Parts cost must be expensive... Now E60 5 series is also suffering. Seeing some selling under RM50k. Cheaper than Myvi 1.5. :rofl: Nice car, but only if you have the money to maintain it.
e30 was very mechanical... ownable long as you can find a nice unit
e36, more electronics shoved in but... still ok...... (i really liked these cars tho the 46 is probably a better cr to own)
e46, now now... this is where many things change BUT in essence, you can still somewhat jaga this machine rather similarly to that of the e36
anything pass these models... electronics the whole way through... e60 for one is pretty and all but... maintenance is pretty high

ur kawan punya... alot to check yo.... isc/v, hoses, injectors, even the silly vanos seals can cause this crap... semua inter-related

I heard normal mileage is around 20k km per year so 60k km in 4 years is still below average
hehe ayam clock 5k per year je.... daily driven car somore......
 
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e30 was very mechanical... ownable long as you can find a nice unit
e36, more electronics shoved in but... still ok...... (i really liked these cars tho the 46 is probably a better cr to own)
e46, now now... this is where many things change BUT in essence, you can still somewhat jaga this machine rather similarly to that of the e36
anything pass these models... electronics the whole way through... e60 for one is pretty and all but... maintenance is pretty high

ur kawan punya... alot to check yo.... isc/v, hoses, injectors, even the silly vanos seals can cause this crap... semua inter-related


hehe ayam clock 5k per year je.... daily driven car somore......
From your point, E46 seems like the best choice then. Unless you can get a good E30.

I think he mentioned before it is his fuel pump or injector problem. But his car don't have VANOS. Old E36 318i, 1993 model don't have VANOS at that time.

Ayam? Your car?
 

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20k km per year? That sounds like a lot. When he car is borrowed to my uncle in 2009, the mileage is probably around 120-130k km. That time, the car is just 10 years old.

Now during my usage since November 2013 (192k km) to now, is around 21k km. Current mileage is 213k km. I guess my car is underused by me. 3 years but only done 21k km.
That is why I say your family low mileage user......:driver:
 

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That is why I say your family low mileage user......:driver:

Always go around Ipoh only. Except my aunt who goes to KL like once a month for holiday. The furthest that the Avanza had traveled is from Ipoh to Subang Jaya, then later to Singapore. Very long journey in car. :biggrin:

The uncle who borrowed Wira is considered as quite a frequent traveler because he is selling insurance. Always need to go meet clients here and there. He bought used Altis, so gave me back the Wira. But even with the mileage that he put on the Wira, you say it is low, hahahaha. :biggrin:
 

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Some can be really low mileage, like my former company MD Secretary. She travel like 2km to office, so daily 4km only. Other times go out use husband car. When she sold he car after 4 years, tyre still have 85% pattern.....lol
 

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Some can be really low mileage, like my former company MD Secretary. She travel like 2km to office, so daily 4km only. Other times go out use husband car. When she sold he car after 4 years, tyre still have 85% pattern.....lol
These kind of cars are good buy in used car market. Low mileage and provided that everything else is well taken care of. :biggrin: