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My real name revealed, hahahahaha. :biggrin: Your kids seems to be very well educated and not influenced by the youngster mentality in KL. Drive old cars also no complain. My same aged Ipoh friends who went to KL for study, many already got infected by the KL youngster mentality. Talking about brand image and all that. Urgh... :banghead: Some even pick up drinking alcohol, clubbing and smoking even when they are still in college or uni... You wouldn't believe that these people have turned this way considering few years ago in secondary school, they are like some of the most well behaved students around. At most they will do last time is just skipping school once in a while and go to cyber cafe. People change really fast when they go to KL and live alone.
Oops, sometimes reply fb mah.....hhahahhaha

My kids cannot ask too much as their father not rich like your friend's parents......lol
 

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Oops, sometimes reply fb mah.....hhahahhaha

My kids cannot ask too much as their father not rich like your friend's parents......lol
Later Ken Yeang thought you are referring to him. :rofl:

My friend's parents? The CX-3 guy? His parents are not rich. Doing small hawker business only. House only got old B11 Sunny and Axia. I don't think his parents can support him a lot for that CX-3.
 

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Looking back time when I was a kid, I thought spending my pocket money (mostly 20cents coins) at arcade, on Street Fighter game was bad.......but nothing compared to spoilt kids thesedays wasting money on booze, clubbing, ciggy, gadgets, modding cars and maybe drugs....Money never enuf like that. "Donno how to find money, but oredi know how to enjoy" as the sayin goes...

No wonder that Jobstreet.com have reported that the no.1 problem of unemployment among fresh grad today is their (unrealistic) demand for their salary. Some have asked for RM6500/month, with zero workin experience. When asked why......they say they were the Top-Student in their class wor....

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Exactly, their expectations dont match with reality. Nobody is obligated to give you a job. With expectations like these, can stay unemployed for good. We must always adjust to suit the world not the other way around, especially when it comes to earning money. Coming from a lower middle class family I understood that very early on.
 

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Later Ken Yeang thought you are referring to him. :rofl:

My friend's parents? The CX-3 guy? His parents are not rich. Doing small hawker business only. House only got old B11 Sunny and Axia. I don't think his parents can support him a lot for that CX-3.
Ken Yeang not as young as you mah.....hahaha

Oh! then he struggle with the installments? I have friends who buys new cars too, but they get Myvi, Saga, now the Bezza not higher end cars.....lol
 

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Exactly, their expectations dont match with reality. Nobody is obligated to give you a job. With expectations like these, can stay unemployed for good. We must always adjust to suit the world not the other way around, especially when it comes to earning money. Coming from a lower middle class family I understood that very early on.
Well, unless you are very talented and in high demand from the industry, then you can think about people finding you to give you a job. Otherwise, we are just as ordinary and normal as anyone else out there. Can be replaced anytime. Too bad, but that is reality. We can't expect that we are somewhat special. Well even if you are special, outside people and your employers won't know about it during their first encounter with you isn't it? :biggrin: At least take some time to learn and probably display your skills and talents slowly.

Ken Yeang not as young as you mah.....hahaha

Oh! then he struggle with the installments? I have friends who buys new cars too, but they get Myvi, Saga, now the Bezza not higher end cars.....lol
Din't know whether is he a young guy or not what.

He haven't bought the car yet, so no struggle for now. Like I said, just worked for 2 months only. Said he will buy after a year plus of working. Still, unless he got a high increment in salary, I don't think that is quite a good idea.

Before working, he told me he don't care much about cars. Just another transport from point A to B.
Now, I suggest other cheaper alternatives to him like maybe Mazda 3 at RM120k since the features are almost the same. He said, not a tall car, so no. I also told him about BR-V after I read about its recent launch. Told him, cheap and it is a tall car. He said, what for buying a 7 seater when I'm alone and single. Then he said, 1.5 litre probably underpowered also plus design not so nice. Last time said car is for point A to B transport, now talk about underpowered, car not tall enough (he did say the word tall instead of high) and design. :confused: :banghead:
 

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Before working, he told me he don't care much about cars. Just another transport from point A to B.
Now, I suggest other cheaper alternatives to him like maybe Mazda 3 at RM120k since the features are almost the same. He said, not a tall car, so no. I also told him about BR-V after I read about its recent launch. Told him, cheap and it is a tall car. He said, what for buying a 7 seater when I'm alone and single. Then he said, 1.5 litre probably underpowered also plus design not so nice. Last time said car is for point A to B transport, now talk about underpowered, car not tall enough (he did say the word tall instead of high) and design. :confused: :banghead:
ask him to belilah old junk~~
 

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ask him to belilah old junk~~
His own old Sunny also he don't drive, how to ask him buy old junk. I did say to him, get a Wira or maybe Satria if you are not fetching anyone. These cars are cheap to maintain and will be able to serve as your point A to B transport. He just say something like hmm, okay... I knew it that he wouldn't bother. Anyway, I already did all the calculations in advance for him and shown him too. The decision lies on him to go with this idea or not. Still got a year plus to go since he is not buying the car so soon.

He is not a car guy either. Mostly clueless about car stuff. Tell him to get old cars later got problem and got chopped during repair, might end up blaming me. Better not suggest old cars to other people as daily transport. You know people nowadays. Later if something is wrong, probably will point at me saying this is all my suggestion.

At the end, the one who bought new car and suffer from installment is not me. :biggrin: I did my part in researching and calculating the maintenance costs for you already. If I want you to die fast, I probably won't calculate anything and tell you to go ahead and buy it now. :rofl:
 

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sometimes, as a fren....we could only give the best advice. since they have asked, we gave our best honest answer. Bro Renesis was even kinder by giving his fren calculation of owning such car.

If die-die the fresh gard think he can buy and maintain the expensive car....then good luck to him. He might be even a lucky lil bastard with a boss that sayang him, and gave him a fat pay check every month.

Unfortunately, if he bought the car and found that cannot support the car financially, I would really-really love to see the fresh-grad's face...after CX-3 then changed Saga BLM. heheheehe....
 

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sometimes, as a fren....we could only give the best advice. since they have asked, we gave our best honest answer. Bro Renesis was even kinder by giving his fren calculation of owning such car.

If die-die the fresh gard think he can buy and maintain the expensive car....then good luck to him. He might be even a lucky lil bastard with a boss that sayang him, and gave him a fat pay check every month.

Unfortunately, if he bought the car and found that cannot support the car financially, I would really-really love to see the fresh-grad's face...after CX-3 then changed Saga BLM. heheheehe....
Well, I know him well. A friend for 15 years already and he came to me asking about the car.

I think, maybe he should just go for the RM99k HR-V base spec and save some money there because he is asking for either HR-V or CX-3. But he is leaning more towards CX-3. Also, I think recently, price of CX-3 has increased for like extra RM5k.

I hope he can handle the car's finance when he got the car. Who knows, maybe a year later, his salary is increased to 4k plus instead of 3k plus.
 

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have a friend, when he got back to malaysia, got himself a hyundai elantra but mostly cause it looked cool..... there was no practical reason here, decision was made cause it just looked cool =="

1 and a half years later he mau tukar lagi, of all things, to a german car.... ohwai also told him the maintanance will completely obliterate him but meh not my call.
 

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have a friend, when he got back to malaysia, got himself a hyundai elantra but mostly cause it looked cool..... there was no practical reason here, decision was made cause it just looked cool =="

1 and a half years later he mau tukar lagi, of all things, to a german car.... ohwai also told him the maintanance will completely obliterate him but meh not my call.
He worked overseas is it? If he worked overseas, then no problem buying expensive cars. :biggrin:

If study overseas and come back, better don't burn more money. Already spent a lot outside Malaysia.
 

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Drive old car no problem what.....as long poket mau tebal
New car also pocket need to be thick. If not, how to manage installment. Or what if you are unlucky and you got a problematic car. Now I understand why Volkswagen owners are so crazy and angry about their DSG failure issue. Monthly paying few thousand ringgit of installment, thinking that they got German car with good quality and class. Ends up DSG got issue and they need spend even more money because of such problem.
 

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Pocket surely need to be tebal....whatever car we are driving. There are many hidden cost involved...xxx km maintenance, rosak, accident, vandalism, detailing, modding, petrol, roadtax insurance renewal...etc...It never ends one. Some ppl send car to spa kilat-kilat and can spend until RM500 and still say worth it. Me? I ride motorbike abt RM10 petrol for 1 week......to save a few bucks to make ends meet...Oso to beat the lousy kl jam.

Worst still, after investing so much marney, then car kana stolen......surely you wont be compensated based on the actual value invested. All add up.....surely cry like big baby....Some cry and wanna die pulak. hahahaha
 

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New car also pocket need to be thick. If not, how to manage installment. Or what if you are unlucky and you got a problematic car. Now I understand why Volkswagen owners are so crazy and angry about their DSG failure issue. Monthly paying few thousand ringgit of installment, thinking that they got German car with good quality and class. Ends up DSG got issue and they need spend even more money because of such problem.
kinda like a sohai paying so much $$$ but getting a lemon.....
 

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Well, I know him well. A friend for 15 years already and he came to me asking about the car.

I think, maybe he should just go for the RM99k HR-V base spec and save some money there because he is asking for either HR-V or CX-3. But he is leaning more towards CX-3. Also, I think recently, price of CX-3 has increased for like extra RM5k.

I hope he can handle the car's finance when he got the car. Who knows, maybe a year later, his salary is increased to 4k plus instead of 3k plus.
RM120k 5 years loan repayment already RM2k plus. RM4k salary also not enough, unless 7 to 9 years and makan roti.....lol
 

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Pocket surely need to be tebal....whatever car we are driving. There are many hidden cost involved...xxx km maintenance, rosak, accident, vandalism, detailing, modding, petrol, roadtax insurance renewal...etc...It never ends one. Some ppl send car to spa kilat-kilat and can spend until RM500 and still say worth it. Me? I ride motorbike abt RM10 petrol for 1 week......to save a few bucks to make ends meet...Oso to beat the lousy kl jam.

Worst still, after investing so much marney, then car kana stolen......surely you wont be compensated based on the actual value invested. All add up.....surely cry like big baby....Some cry and wanna die pulak. hahahaha
That is why it is not easy to own and take care of a car. Sometimes, I do feel a bit grateful that I have taken an interest in cars. I learned a lot of things about cars. I imagined, if I am not interested in cars, I don't even know how will I go through so many of these problems that happened to my car before.

Car stolen case is one of the worse thing that can happen to a car lover. Yet, it always tends to happen on those who cares about their cars. For people who couldn't care less about their cars, I guess even thieves don't want to steal such a car. :rofl:

kinda like a sohai paying so much $$$ but getting a lemon.....
And this is where I start to realize where some cars like Vios (before facelift) shines. Yeah, I heard a lot of complaints regarding the old 1NZ-FE and 4 speed auto since the first gen Vios. Not using new tech and all. But they failed to realize this. The old tech is proven to be very reliable and last for long. Well, isn't that a good thing for your pocket because maintenance costs will be kept low.

Funny when people talk like my car is just a transport for point A to B. Then when buy new car, become like tech geek. This feature, that feature, bla bla. Sure, does sound nice with all those high spec stuff on paper. But what if after a few years of ownership and these new high tech stuff is proven to be not as reliable as the old stuff. I wonder who will get the last laugh then. The guy driving the old tech Vios but proven to be reliable or the guy who goes for high tech stuff but ends up parts failing here and there.

Again, if you are not prepared to take risk, might as well just stick with something that is proven to work well. Well, Volkswagen owners took the risk. Buying a normal car with "race" car gearbox. Double clutch gearbox that shifts in miliseconds. Some comes with supercharger and turbocharger too. Sounds cool but now problems arises. Probably don't dare to boast or laugh much anymore for those affected owners.
 

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RM120k 5 years loan repayment already RM2k plus. RM4k salary also not enough, unless 7 to 9 years and makan roti.....lol
I wrote earlier that he wants a 9 year loan what. 5 year loan is suicide.

Another friend of mine did it. Proton Saga FLX. 5 year loan because he wants a lower interest rate. RM700 a month and he is earning like RM2k plus while staying at KL. Sounds like a lot of pain to the pocket.
 

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Your fren with the Saga FLX is pushing his financial limits.....Hopefully, over the 5 years loan, nothing major happened......or not sure pecah wallet.

Reminds me of news abt a couple that wanted to get married. Everything of the wedding ceremony gotta be nice, unique and grand. The GF wanted the event to be memorable and impressive to her colleagues wor. The groom wants to give the impression of the male provider, so obliged with the GF. Also planned for oversea honey moon after wedding. The couple made a huge bank loan just to pay for the wedding expenses. When blinded by love, who cares about money, right? With love, we can survive on roti and water, right?

Unfortunately, after married the couple cannot tahan due to never ending bank otang while further burdened with barang mahal expenses. Reality sets in and not everything is flower-fancy and romantic anymore. Wifey canot manja-manja while hubby dont give face anymore. Later, in-law stepped in and the blame game starts. The couple divorced eventually.

Money for kahwin. Money is also reason to divorce.

So dont play-play if money is just cukup cukup oni....
 

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Your fren with the Saga FLX is pushing his financial limits.....Hopefully, over the 5 years loan, nothing major happened......or not sure pecah wallet.

Reminds me of news abt a couple that wanted to get married. Everything of the wedding ceremony gotta be nice, unique and grand. The GF wanted the event to be memorable and impressive to her colleagues wor. The groom wants to give the impression of the male provider, so obliged with the GF. Also planned for oversea honey moon after wedding. The couple made a huge bank loan just to pay for the wedding expenses. When blinded by love, who cares about money, right? With love, we can survive on roti and water, right?

Unfortunately, after married the couple cannot tahan due to never ending bank otang while further burdened with barang mahal expenses. Reality sets in and not everything is flower-fancy and romantic anymore. Wifey canot manja-manja while hubby dont give face anymore. Later, in-law stepped in and the blame game starts. The couple divorced eventually.

Money for kahwin. Money is also reason to divorce.

So dont play-play if money is just cukup cukup oni....
Yeah, it does look like he is pushing his limits. He is also a guy who doesn't have a clue about maintenance cost. I remember I said it before over here. I told him his tyres almost reach its lifespan soon. Need to change and I say is around RM140-160. He ask me back, for all 4? I told him that is the price for one tyre and if it is so cheap, I change tyre every half a year already. :banghead:

Sounds sad for the couple story. Not easy for two people to get together but at the end, need to end up divorcing because of money issue. Maybe the wedding ceremony should be kept at a more humble level instead of going so grand. Anyway, the most important point of marriage is two people finally getting together legally as spouse and family. Not really an event to showcase your wealth or what.