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Frankly speaking,I wasn't really convinced at the beginning when I saw the starting line up , with Flamini ,Cliche and Almunia all starting,I kind of felt nervous you know ;p plus Liverpool's recent form has been superb haha,oh well,against all odds! AW did it again!
 

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Well played, we were thoroughly out-gunned. It's really depressing but I can have no complaints. You took your chances well.
 

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Flamini, Toure and Gallas are all defensive players, who scored for us last night. It would be a shame for me to say that Rosicky, Adebayor, Fabregas and Van Persie should start learning from them, judging by their performance against CSKA and Everton.

Flamini was in the right place at the right time, but he still needs to polish up his passings and first-touch, won't complain more since he has been on the bench for quite a long time, hardworking player he is.

A special compliment should be made on Clichy, who did a superb job at left back. Cutting out crosses and stopping players on the flank was all his hardwork, nevermind Van Persie, who didn't help out much, since he was given a job to attack I guess.

Van Persie is still immature, his challenges always looked like yellow card offence, and how stupid he was to use his arm to flick the ball away from Reina.

Anyone notice that Reina looks like Benitez? I wanted to say they are like father and son.
 

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thteh86 said:
imho, although Liverpool lost to a better team, I think Arsenal could be better with Hleb in the middle, Fabregas couldn't seem to open the defence at all.
Hleb comes in real handy almost at all position. That is providing if he has a good day. When he plays like he did yesterday or the game against Real Madrid last season, you're bound to see goals for sure. His trickery are simple and he doesn't do anything too fancy like C Ronaldo or Robinho, but it gets him away from opposition players. Its a real joy to watch him play at times. But when he's playing against stronger and more physical players, he tend to suffer and get cut out quite easily. He's an example of Wenger's quality buy at cheap price.

If Fabregas didn't open the defence at all, i guess you didn't watch opening goal scored by Flamini. Just look at his movement, how he pulls away from the guy marking him, stops and square the ball only for a simply tap in by Flamini. That is just classic Fabregas. Not too bad for a 17 year old eh? If you watched Arsenal play long enough, you will realise he's one of the best in holding the ball. His ball control, awareness and passing is almost second to none. To some extent, even Henry doesn't hold the ball as well as Fabregas.
 

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prodigy said:
Hleb comes in real handy almost at all position. That is providing if he has a good day. When he plays like he did yesterday or the game against Real Madrid last season, you're bound to see goals for sure. His trickery are simple and he doesn't do anything too fancy like C Ronaldo or Robinho, but it gets him away from opposition players. Its a real joy to watch him play at times. But when he's playing against stronger and more physical players, he tend to suffer and get cut out quite easily. He's an example of Wenger's quality buy at cheap price.

If Fabregas didn't open the defence at all, i guess you didn't watch opening goal scored by Flamini. Just look at his movement, how he pulls away from the guy marking him, stops and square the ball only for a simply tap in by Flamini. That is just classic Fabregas. Not too bad for a 17 year old eh? If you watched Arsenal play long enough, you will realise he's one of the best in holding the ball. His ball control, awareness and passing is almost second to none. To some extent, even Henry doesn't hold the ball as well as Fabregas.
If I didn't forget, the 1st goal was actually a pass from Hleb to Fabregas who made the great run inside. What I was refering is his vision to pass balls to open up the defence, unlike how Rosicky and Hleb does.

Yes, he can pass around accurately and also hold the ball very well, but from my opinion, it would be better if there's Hleb plays in the middle where he can have more space to pass around. However, now that Fabregas has matured, he deserves his place and there isn't many people who can play as well as Hleb on the right.
 

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Hleb isn't exactly the fastest right midfielder. I think he's probably just abit slower than Ljungberg but i got to agree that Hleb's passes are real killer at times. But as i said, he doesn't like being hassled around. He's only starting to get use to the physical side of EPL. As for Rosicky, he's one of those that just came in and instantly fit into the team. His movement and pace suits Arsenal game and its almost as though Wenger bought another Overmars. Only problem is, Overmars finishing ability is so much better than Rosicky. And he can score from 3 yards too.
 

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Matthew Connolly, our 19 year old centre back is called up to England squad. Surprise for me.
 

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Now I get more ideas of how Arsenal have been playing.

Henry was quoted in saying in arsenal.com that he's adapted into this new style of playing, which he now holds the ball up more frequently, allowing everybody to get forward and get involved. I think he's has taken up some of Bergkamp's role of being a link between each play/attack, rather than spending much time on the left dribbling, or waiting for supplies. That's why we have seen so many different scorers, and why Rosicky is assigned to play a central role, even though on the teamsheet he's actually a left-sided midfielder.

Van Persie is actually now a winger, but he's also another free moving forward who can always move inwards and link up with Rosicky, Fabregas and Hleb. A great example would be the game of CSKA at Emirates, where different players were found in so many great scoring opportunities. It's really adaptable, flexible and dynamic football environment, which is so hard to be trained and performed.

But sometimes it gets too dynamic that too many passes equals digging your own grave. Haha.
 

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i think emirates feng shui not good lar...

we play so good, what we have is oni draw..
 

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Henry has explained that the reason they are not finding the net more frequently, is psychological problem. He said that there are things like signboards or some objects in the stand that affect their instinct or subconcious on where the goal is. I think that's quite true, because that's why away games have always been harder. Emirates stadium is wider than Highbury, I guess that plays a psychological factor in the forward's mind.

However, another reason is that Arsenal lack the killer's instinct, or should we say champion's quality? Some people would say it's a champion's luck, but it's true that when a team plays like they are going to win the title, they possess killer instinct and always make their own luck. That's not the case with Arsenal, who couldn't beat a lowly Newcastle Utd. One thing that annoys me is we always seem to concede 1st, and after that shot in our foot, we will always struggle from then on, coz the away team is hugely motivated to win at least a point. Sad case, brothers. We conceded the first goal against Aston Villa, Boro, Everton and Newcastle, at home.

I think the main reason for conceding the 1st goal is due to the inexperienced minds of the players (maybe that is also caused by the game-play). Sometimes, those overpassings really would put alot of pressure on our defence, and when we lose the ball while many men have committed thenselves forward, all of them have to track back and start all over again. The first goal is so crucial that Arsenal shouldn't care much about the fashion they score it.

Two horse race looks like a certainty till the season end.
 

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Disappointing performance by Arsenal. They deserved to be kicked out of the CL actually, if things don't go well. Theo Walcott has awakened, and Arsenal transformed into a much better team after he replaced the out-of-sorts Ljungberg. Ljungberg really doesn't have the ingredients to adapt to the new style of play. But Walcott gave out an inspired performance that overshadowed the lacklustre Henry, who will be banned for the Porto game, which is a good thing since he hasn't got back into the good shape.

Baptista was actually a useless substitution, he didn't really touch the ball after coming on and couldn't really bring any influence to the game. Strong headed goal though.

Hleb, Toure and Eboue deserved some compliments for their contributions.
 

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Missed the game as it was just too damn tired to watch. Besides, i couldn't bare watching Arsenal lose the game. Thank God they won.

Baptista scoring is a good sign. Its not about him not contributing anything towards the game. He scored when he's not supposed to and that will help boost his confidence. He's a strong guy and will help strengthen our midfield. We're now facing a crisis at home, can't win!!

Anyways, good to see them back to winning ways!
 

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are we watching the same game? i thought arsenal played well and had better movement in the 2nd half. baptista didn't need to touch the ball but he draws a DM to him and release walcott and ade. just when the DM left him, he took advantage and scores the 3rd.

good performance by arsenal.
 

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Yeah man, i watched the replay at 8pm just now. I thought they played well as a team. Just that the defence need to be abit alert not to let go too many early goals.

Hleb plays so damn well in the European games. No wonder Wenger relies on him heavily in Champions League games. Just look at the way he control the ball and makes run at opposition. He's got like a rubber legs and the way he dribble the ball amazes me. I must say Arsenal were quite lucky as Eboue was given far too much space to run. He'll be a great right back for Arsenal. Extremely quick, defends well and whips in some good crosses too.

Henry looks rather jaded. In fact for the past few matches he doesn't look like his usual self. Gone are the days where he pulverize defenders with his lightning pace. Now most defenders are able to catch up with him and make a tackle to clear the ball. It seems to me Henry has lost some pace and he's more than happy to let Hleb or Rosicky do the running while he plays a more central position. Van Persie looks lively but he needs to work on his finishing. I'd say he's got a pretty good feet too. Very skillful and makes some pretty good one touches. He needs to be less flamboyant and concentrate solely on his finishing though.

Overall, i thought it was a great Arsenal game. Looking forward to watch more of Walcott.
 

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topui11 said:
munpeng

are we watching the same game? i thought arsenal played well and had better movement in the 2nd half. baptista didn't need to touch the ball but he draws a DM to him and release walcott and ade. just when the DM left him, he took advantage and scores the 3rd.

good performance by arsenal.
No dude, we were not watching the same game. I watched the game against Hamburg, and you?

Try asking smarter questions.