4G91 Gang..

[ACQ2305]

same here. Yet to hav dyno since i hav installed tat honda intake. Hope it brings me into the 3 digit whp range..huhuhu... But there is a definite increase...esp the pull, torque...

 

[alvin24]

wuish... so long never login here... hahahaha. The other day I met up with another fellow 4g91, Mitec-i. A lot of catching up... since so long haven't met up with any fellow 4G91ers. =D

 

[ejump]

waaa me also so long never login to dis thread... so whatsup all... to all sifu² got any suggestion which plug cable is the best for 4g91 & plug type.. thinking wanna upgrade those dis end month..

 

[joe_mirage]

go for ngk wires and plugs bro :P

 

[din]

nice engine and power

 

[ejump]

go for ngk wires and plugs bro :P

NGK power plug cable is it ?? how much RM?? i went for survey and the cost are not the same.. got ori and imitation ? n the NGK plug is what type? iridium or other ?

 

[joe_mirage]

for 91.. the ngk cable should be around rm380.same cable like 93 dohc. plugs go for ngk iridium.

 

[cik_yat]

how bout MSD cable? price almost same.. my cable from coil to distributor already burn for 3times...

 

[LeBronJames]

My personal oppinion. Use back original less hassle and more stable. I used before 2 other brands but not NGK (however from branded shop and the price is above RM200). However the cable is not lasting. Maybe I am unlucky. Longest is 1 year 2 months then the cable shock or the rubber start to break. If you ask me in terms of performance, I felt the pickup improve, yes here is a different that I can feel after I invested around RM450(Plug cable - RM250 + NGK plug - RM200). Wanted to try NGK power cable (blue model R-09 i guess) but too expensive around RM400 without warranty, some a lot fake on out there.

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To 4G91 ownners,

Want to ask your sincere oppinion. Original 4G91 transplant into Wira / Satria with the below standard upgrade:
1.) 1.8" exhaust piping + 4-2-1 extractor branded + branded muffler
2.) 15" rims
3.) open port air filter with cool air intake + heat shield

Can this car stand a change to win or close match with "STOCK" latest Honda City I-Vtec and Vios G specs interms of pickup and topspeed? Can you guys rate who will get 1st, 2nd and 3rd? Thank you for your time.

 

[calvin9683]

honda city i not sure... but if vios confirm no prob... can hit 180kmh without prob....
last time i tried chasing neo oso, no sweat.. heehee

 

[Dot Wong]

hi..guys.Im using 4g13 now n plan to change it to 4g91, how much for the halfcut installation plus jpj endorse? i need some advice here..pls help!!

 

[ACQ2305]

Friend just did his a few months ago,..halfcut 5.5K..manual..
Did not ask about installation and all.. But im from Sarawak..Not sure the price difference between WM and here...
Lebron, to play with those City and Vios, i think our 91 can give them a run for their money..As mine can keep up with some 1.6cc cars...Mildly modded 91..nothing major though..

 

[mutanX]

hey Joe, hows the up grade of your skunk intake?
mutan, what pump did you change? Higher capacity or the the same...Wonder if there will be any different if the pump is upgraded..Stock internals...

replace 1-1..nothing change..huhu
money not many...isk

 

[LeBronJames]

Friend just did his a few months ago,..halfcut 5.5K..manual..
Did not ask about installation and all.. But im from Sarawak..Not sure the price difference between WM and here...
Lebron, to play with those City and Vios, i think our 91 can give them a run for their money..As mine can keep up with some 1.6cc cars...Mildly modded 91..nothing major though..

Maybe, maybe... I have not tested the real race, however I have test driven 3 cars. some how I feel that Vios is not as powerful as what my friend claim compare to City, not to forget City is only SOHC (i-Vtec). 4G91 really need to go for high rev. Still feel is interesting, wonder who stands a better advantage?

By the way, just for sharing what's your FC like? Mine is RM80 = 510km +- (highway 60% + town 40%) On and off did rev to 6.5k rpm 25% of the full tank i guess. Yes Manual transmission with no major mod.

 

[ACQ2305]

Lebron, this is me with my 91 wira..hehehe... Mostly all still standard engines.. and i am rolling on 17in.. CPS on 18in.. Iswara 92 on 16in, charment 4AG 15in...
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...20-new-video-4g91-vs-4g92-vs-cps-vs-4age.html
Btw,the waja had a bad start during the launch..

 

[angrysnail]

waahh..can't wait to join this gang..i got quote for RM7.5k included installation,is it worth it?..its manual gearbox..

 

[ACQ2305]

Wow,that's a big difference since i had mine installed way back in 2005.. But i guess as times goes by, prices will increase. I wud say it is reasonable since it is including installation and all. What about timing belts, engine / GB oil..Endorsement?
Reliable little engine.. Never failed me since 2005, just gotta know how to maintain it..A few minor upgrades, can also play with those normal 1.6..hehe

 

[LeBronJames]

waahh..can't wait to join this gang..i got quote for RM7.5k included installation,is it worth it?..its manual gearbox..

Hi,

7.5k with installation (i assume with JPJ check too). To me the price is at a higher side. If without body kit consider very expensive (what to do, market price). By the way, Since the price is so high now, why not u consider to purchase a local 1.6 4G92 SOHC and mod abit. I can assure you that it is as good for city driving and high way also not bad. Please don't be confuse DOHC is not always better then SOHC. It really depends on what you really want. I have a friend with 4G93 SOHC medium mod "win" a 4G93 DOHC heavy mod. Really depends on your mechanic skills also + luck.

Unless your intention is to drop in a 4G91 then slowly mod to the max. Share your thoughts maybe we can help.

 

[ejump]

waahh..can't wait to join this gang..i got quote for RM7.5k included installation,is it worth it?..its manual gearbox..

wahhh RM7.5k??? How much only for the Engine?? the price include with endorsement charge or not?
i know different area different price.. but me fren just install only cost him around 6.5k all complete with endorsement. he buy the engine complete halfcut around 5k only..

 

[mutanX]

Hi,

7.5k with installation (i assume with JPJ check too). To me the price is at a higher side. If without body kit consider very expensive (what to do, market price). By the way, Since the price is so high now, why not u consider to purchase a local 1.6 4G92 SOHC and mod abit. I can assure you that it is as good for city driving and high way also not bad. Please don't be confuse DOHC is not always better then SOHC. It really depends on what you really want. I have a friend with 4G93 SOHC medium mod "win" a 4G93 DOHC heavy mod. Really depends on your mechanic skills also + luck.

Unless your intention is to drop in a 4G91 then slowly mod to the max. Share your thoughts maybe we can help.

yup...7.5k is on the high side..

 

[angrysnail]

Wow,that's a big difference since i had mine installed way back in 2005.. But i guess as times goes by, prices will increase. I wud say it is reasonable since it is including installation and all. What about timing belts, engine / GB oil..Endorsement?
Reliable little engine.. Never failed me since 2005, just gotta know how to maintain it..A few minor upgrades, can also play with those normal 1.6..hehe

Hi,

7.5k with installation (i assume with JPJ check too). To me the price is at a higher side. If without body kit consider very expensive (what to do, market price). By the way, Since the price is so high now, why not u consider to purchase a local 1.6 4G92 SOHC and mod abit. I can assure you that it is as good for city driving and high way also not bad. Please don't be confuse DOHC is not always better then SOHC. It really depends on what you really want. I have a friend with 4G93 SOHC medium mod "win" a 4G93 DOHC heavy mod. Really depends on your mechanic skills also + luck.

Unless your intention is to drop in a 4G91 then slowly mod to the max. Share your thoughts maybe we can help.

wahhh RM7.5k??? How much only for the Engine?? the price include with endorsement charge or not?
i know different area different price.. but me fren just install only cost him around 6.5k all complete with endorsement. he buy the engine complete halfcut around 5k only..

yup,that is high price..i plan wanna change so long time already but the price keep increasing..
i have 1.3vdo under my hood,just good for town driving when alone,if with load..no power at all..

Mr James,where can i get those single 93 or Dohc 93NA?..just saw ads RM12K for gsr,wonder how much for 93 na(RM6K--RMxk-RM12K)..:hmmmm:
..I prefer that 91 coz no need to do PG10 for JPJ inspection(1.3-->1.8)..and cheap..
can mod step by step follow my budget and yeah 7.5k i think without bodykit and endorsement but i dun really need it coz i'm on asti right now..

Mr ejump,the price for engine+GB only is RM6k..i dun ask futher coz i need to increase my budget again..what to do,car too old..tight budget..only can do one thing at one time..

 

[ACQ2305]

If you want power and all, i think it would be better going for a bigger cc engine.. Will cost a lot to mod this 91 for performance.. A 1.8 block would be a good starting point.. But if it is fuel consumption and stuff, i would say it is good. Roadtax is cheap.. DOHC always look nicer then a SOHC IMO..hehehe... Fills up the engine bay...

 

[LeBronJames]

yup,that is high price..i plan wanna change so long time already but the price keep increasing..
i have 1.3vdo under my hood,just good for town driving when alone,if with load..no power at all..

Mr James,where can i get those single 93 or Dohc 93NA?..just saw ads RM12K for gsr,wonder how much for 93 na(RM6K--RMxk-RM12K)..:hmmmm:
..I prefer that 91 coz no need to do PG10 for JPJ inspection(1.3-->1.8)..and cheap..
can mod step by step follow my budget and yeah 7.5k i think without bodykit and endorsement but i dun really need it coz i'm on asti right now..

Mr ejump,the price for engine+GB only is RM6k..i dun ask futher coz i need to increase my budget again..what to do,car too old..tight budget..only can do one thing at one time..

Hi Angry Snail,
An honest advice, I would suggest you to go for 4G92P (SOHC) Manual. After that do a top overhaul if needed only. Then fit in a 1.8 cluth and change 1.8" exhaust. JPJ also easier to approve compare to 1.8 conversion. Road tax is only RM90 for 1.6. Total will not cost more then 7.5k (if you minus top overhaul price should be +- 5k only). Your pick up will be better then 4G91 Original. Trust me if you used to drive 1.3 4G13P and you upgrade to 4G92 SOHC, i confirm you will feel hell of a difference!!! If no difference means your mechanic skill got issue. hehehe... Take things at a time.

Ah yes... you think 7.5 for 4G91 full stop? that is an estimate price only. some times very hard to say, you may need to change clutch plate etc, some things is not included. Later may cost upto 9k easily, better be prepare.

 

[mutanX]

Hi Angry Snail,
An honest advice, I would suggest you to go for 4G92P (SOHC) Manual. After that do a top overhaul if needed only. Then fit in a 1.8 cluth and change 1.8" exhaust. JPJ also easier to approve compare to 1.8 conversion. Road tax is only RM90 for 1.6. Total will not cost more then 7.5k (if you minus top overhaul price should be +- 5k only). Your pick up will be better then 4G91 Original. Trust me if you used to drive 1.3 4G13P and you upgrade to 4G92 SOHC, i confirm you will feel hell of a difference!!! If no difference means your mechanic skill got issue. hehehe... Take things at a time.

Ah yes... you think 7.5 for 4G91 full stop? that is an estimate price only. some times very hard to say, you may need to change clutch plate etc, some things is not included. Later may cost upto 9k easily, better be prepare.

yup..another good idea to change to 4g92p sohc..
but 7.5k for manual 4g91 is high..huhuh

 

[angrysnail]

Hi Angry Snail,
An honest advice, I would suggest you to go for 4G92P (SOHC) Manual. After that do a top overhaul if needed only. Then fit in a 1.8 cluth and change 1.8" exhaust. JPJ also easier to approve compare to 1.8 conversion. Road tax is only RM90 for 1.6. Total will not cost more then 7.5k (if you minus top overhaul price should be +- 5k only). Your pick up will be better then 4G91 Original. Trust me if you used to drive 1.3 4G13P and you upgrade to 4G92 SOHC, i confirm you will feel hell of a difference!!! If no difference means your mechanic skill got issue. hehehe... Take things at a time.

Ah yes... you think 7.5 for 4G91 full stop? that is an estimate price only. some times very hard to say, you may need to change clutch plate etc, some things is not included. Later may cost upto 9k easily, better be prepare.

Yup bro,i aware that matter..that is why i ask from all experience driver here for opinion..91 now not cheap already..not like last time 3-4k just for engine..where can find 92p?..not much ads about that engine also,maybe they not advertise it due to low demand?..:hmmmm:

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yup..another good idea to change to 4g92p sohc..
but 7.5k for manual 4g91 is high..huhuh

7.5k is high..agreed..now think for other cheap solution and more performance gain..