this is a really hard race again for those strong team!! benz leading red team!! japanese brand is try to hit their name in front of top 8 during qualifying till final!!!!
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but the rain almost cancels out car manufacturer superioty ....nice to see the smaller teams up there as well....all things said n done....i think it was a really nice race.....
To be honest, i didn't think it was a good race. The rain, although must of the time can bring more fun to a race, this time it actually ruined the race. The first 14 laps was probably the most boring of all whereby the cars lined up behind the safety car. As the race proceeded, Hamilton showed the Mclaren's superiority in the rain by opening a pretty large gap and that was it. Ferrari showed a good comeback but was nowhere near Mclaren's pace in the rain, and almost snatching 2nd place from Renault. Great defending by Kovalainen. And then if you guys saw the last few corners whereby Massa and Kubica was dicing it out, that reminded me so much of the battle between Gilles Villeneuve and Rene Arnoux.
As for Alonso's retirement from the crash, i got to admit i was half relieved, though i'm a strong Mclaren fan. My preference to Hamilton now is probably due to the part he played in getting Mclaren stripped and fined. Now i hope he finishes behind Hamilton in the title race, but yet in front of Raikkonen. Rumours flying around that he might be considering Ferrari as his next destination. I'd say go to wherever he thinks he will have number 1 status. He should let his driving do the talking, not his fuckin mouth.
As for Alonso's retirement from the crash, i got to admit i was half relieved, though i'm a strong Mclaren fan. My preference to Hamilton now is probably due to the part he played in getting Mclaren stripped and fined. Now i hope he finishes behind Hamilton in the title race, but yet in front of Raikkonen. Rumours flying around that he might be considering Ferrari as his next destination. I'd say go to wherever he thinks he will have number 1 status. He should let his driving do the talking, not his fuckin mouth.
FIA communication failure cause the Ferrari's drivers as they fail to inform Ferrari that they MUST use the Extreme Weather condition tyre instead of the intermediate tyre.
or FIA want Lewis to be the WC this year?
or FIA want Lewis to be the WC this year?
I guess FIA just wants to even out Ferrari after they gave Mclaren a world record fine. Haha.
Seriously, Ferrari screwed up their races big time by apparently not receiving the instruction to use extreme wet tyres. They were the only one that received the email late. I think its not right to blame the FIA coz everyone else received it, except for Ferrari. So its just too bad.
Seriously, Ferrari screwed up their races big time by apparently not receiving the instruction to use extreme wet tyres. They were the only one that received the email late. I think its not right to blame the FIA coz everyone else received it, except for Ferrari. So its just too bad.
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Karma's coming back to bite them in their arse. In my opinion, Ferrari deserved it after the FIA witch-hunt they pulled on McLaren.
It was a wild and dangerous race and a whole bunch of drivers complained afterwards that the race should have been cancelled.
The most unfortunate guy has to be Mark Webber. He was so pissed, he threw the steering wheel past the nose of his wrecked car. Just read about what he said about Vettel......LOL :-
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Karma's coming back to bite them in their arse. In my opinion, Ferrari deserved it after the FIA witch-hunt they pulled on McLaren.
It was a wild and dangerous race and a whole bunch of drivers complained afterwards that the race should have been cancelled.
The most unfortunate guy has to be Mark Webber. He was so pissed, he threw the steering wheel past the nose of his wrecked car. Just read about what he said about Vettel......LOL :-
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Mr Luca still insist Mclaren should be banned from the drivers title altogether. Somehow i feel Ferrari likes to win cheaply. They keep insisting something in Mclaren's car belong to Ferrari and that they've gotten performance gain out of it.
Ferrari should just concentrate on next year's challenge instead of whining and harping over the spygate scandal.
Rumours flying around that Todt and Luca's relationship is pretty strained.
Ferrari should just concentrate on next year's challenge instead of whining and harping over the spygate scandal.
Rumours flying around that Todt and Luca's relationship is pretty strained.
you won't like it if somebody steal ur data and use it for thier advantage. Imagine someone steal ur project and submit it as his own, won't u be happy about it? :)
I'm a Mclaren supporter. :)
I'm a Mclaren supporter. :)
By the way, the FIA did not nail McLaren just because Couglan was in possession of Ferrari info. They nailed McLaren because their drivers were discussing technical info of the red cars. Such things are very much part of the F1 landscape since the competition started. It's nothing unique. People talk about other people's cars all the time. Some paper pushing f**k at the FIA wanted to appear to be politically correct.
If Ferrari have an axe to grind, it is not as though Maranello never engaged in info-gathering themselves. Back in the 70s, Harvey Postlewaite (Ferrari technical director) engineered a break-in into a competitor's garage to measure the cars.
So Ferrari and Luca Montezemolo can get off their moral high-horse.
As far as I am concerned, it's the pot calling the kettle 'black'.
If Ferrari have an axe to grind, it is not as though Maranello never engaged in info-gathering themselves. Back in the 70s, Harvey Postlewaite (Ferrari technical director) engineered a break-in into a competitor's garage to measure the cars.
So Ferrari and Luca Montezemolo can get off their moral high-horse.
As far as I am concerned, it's the pot calling the kettle 'black'.
a race is a race. race teams would do anything to get the upper hand in order to win.
whoever in Ferari situations would have done same.
Ferrari was prevented from winning when FIA introduced different method of qualifying, one set of tyres per race and such. all that was done to prevent Ferrari from winning. Ferrari's win of the contructor and driver's title from year 2000 to 2004 is due to their perfect strategy all time.
FIA is totally corrupted.
anyway, Hamilton will surely be crowned the youngest F1 champion. and the best thing is the current holder happens to be Alonso pulak!
wakakaka... nice try Ferrari, at least they've done their best and gave the stiffest competitions. and they have beaten Renault after being non performing in year 05/06.
whoever in Ferari situations would have done same.
Ferrari was prevented from winning when FIA introduced different method of qualifying, one set of tyres per race and such. all that was done to prevent Ferrari from winning. Ferrari's win of the contructor and driver's title from year 2000 to 2004 is due to their perfect strategy all time.
FIA is totally corrupted.
anyway, Hamilton will surely be crowned the youngest F1 champion. and the best thing is the current holder happens to be Alonso pulak!
wakakaka... nice try Ferrari, at least they've done their best and gave the stiffest competitions. and they have beaten Renault after being non performing in year 05/06.
Looks like McLaren maybe shafted by the FIA yet again. They're investigating Hamilton's involvement in the Webber-Vettel collision. Says that Hammy maybe the one who caused it.
Hamilton maybe penalised 10 places for the upcoming GP or maybe get points deducted via time penalty or have his win in Japan stripped away. Bummer.
Hamilton maybe penalised 10 places for the upcoming GP or maybe get points deducted via time penalty or have his win in Japan stripped away. Bummer.
If hamilton's point in Jp GP being stripped, this Chinese GP will more exicting as this will be 3 way battle of Hamilton, Alonso and Kimi. Maybe Massa will join in too. :)
But i doubt that will happen, as the Steward already closed the case once until some JP F1 fan upload the video to youTube that show clearly that Hamilton slow till the extent that it alomost stand still. So the FIA cannot say that will be no enough evidence but to proceed with the investigation.
But i doubt that will happen, as the Steward already closed the case once until some JP F1 fan upload the video to youTube that show clearly that Hamilton slow till the extent that it alomost stand still. So the FIA cannot say that will be no enough evidence but to proceed with the investigation.
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F1.com says:
Hamilton under investigation over Japan driving
Formula One stewards in Shanghai are examining new evidence concerning Lewis Hamilton’s driving behind the safety car in last weekend’s rain-swept Japanese Grand Prix.
The McLaren star was leading the pack awaiting a restart when the two cars immediately behind him - Mark Webber’s Red Bull and Sebastian Vettel’s Toro Rosso - collided, putting both out of the race.
Webber and Vettel both hinted that erratic driving from Hamilton had played a role in their shunt. Video footage is understood to show the championship leader moving to the right of the track and slowing immediately prior to the accident, in which Vettel ran into the back of Webber's car.
"It definitely contributed to Sebastian hitting me up the back because he (Hamilton) wasn't doing what he was supposed to be doing (behind the safety car), clearly," Webber told Thursday’s FIA press conference in China.
Vettel was penalised for his part in the accident and is due to drop ten places on the grid for Sunday's Chinese Grand Prix. “As a human being you react to movement," he said on Thursday. "I saw Lewis move far to the right and thought he was coming to a stop... I obviously did not plan to ruin both of our races."
Prior to the incident, Hamilton had radioed his team to ask them to tell Red Bull to get Webber to drop back, as he felt the safety car was struggling to keep ahead of the pack in the difficult conditions.
“When we were behind the second safety car, I was constantly on the radio to my engineers to tell the Red Bull team to get Mark (Webber) to make a little more of a gap because I couldn’t go any faster because the pace car was in front of me, so I was trying to keep the distance with him and then I’d move over because I couldn’t see Mark and then he’d just appear alongside me, so he kept out-braking himself. I felt something was going to happen, and I guess my instincts told me right.”
Asked after the race about his apparently erratic driving behind the safety car, Hamilton said: “That wasn’t really the case - we just needed to keep the heat in the brakes. I was running quite a hard compound of brakes, so if I did light braking, I would have glazed the brakes. So I was making sure there was a little bit of a gap, maximising the gap that you’re allowed, and use it to my benefit. It was tough because Mark behind me was just too close, and all of a sudden he braked really hard.”
Stewards are expected to reconvene on Friday afternoon in Shanghai to reach a verdict on the matter.
Hamilton under investigation over Japan driving
Formula One stewards in Shanghai are examining new evidence concerning Lewis Hamilton’s driving behind the safety car in last weekend’s rain-swept Japanese Grand Prix.
The McLaren star was leading the pack awaiting a restart when the two cars immediately behind him - Mark Webber’s Red Bull and Sebastian Vettel’s Toro Rosso - collided, putting both out of the race.
Webber and Vettel both hinted that erratic driving from Hamilton had played a role in their shunt. Video footage is understood to show the championship leader moving to the right of the track and slowing immediately prior to the accident, in which Vettel ran into the back of Webber's car.
"It definitely contributed to Sebastian hitting me up the back because he (Hamilton) wasn't doing what he was supposed to be doing (behind the safety car), clearly," Webber told Thursday’s FIA press conference in China.
Vettel was penalised for his part in the accident and is due to drop ten places on the grid for Sunday's Chinese Grand Prix. “As a human being you react to movement," he said on Thursday. "I saw Lewis move far to the right and thought he was coming to a stop... I obviously did not plan to ruin both of our races."
Prior to the incident, Hamilton had radioed his team to ask them to tell Red Bull to get Webber to drop back, as he felt the safety car was struggling to keep ahead of the pack in the difficult conditions.
“When we were behind the second safety car, I was constantly on the radio to my engineers to tell the Red Bull team to get Mark (Webber) to make a little more of a gap because I couldn’t go any faster because the pace car was in front of me, so I was trying to keep the distance with him and then I’d move over because I couldn’t see Mark and then he’d just appear alongside me, so he kept out-braking himself. I felt something was going to happen, and I guess my instincts told me right.”
Asked after the race about his apparently erratic driving behind the safety car, Hamilton said: “That wasn’t really the case - we just needed to keep the heat in the brakes. I was running quite a hard compound of brakes, so if I did light braking, I would have glazed the brakes. So I was making sure there was a little bit of a gap, maximising the gap that you’re allowed, and use it to my benefit. It was tough because Mark behind me was just too close, and all of a sudden he braked really hard.”
Stewards are expected to reconvene on Friday afternoon in Shanghai to reach a verdict on the matter.
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