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.............nice guys.


welding bits from an earlier weld on the casing got loose and got between the gears..............I was there when they opened it up and dicovered the problem.
 

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XXX, you were talking to the wrong horse. Which horse told you this anyway? BS, or in this case Horse Dung! Give me the name of the person who told you this. Please!

Why don't you come over to HMSB's Petaling Jaya office and take a look at the cars, and check the chassis numbers? "Only Mugen engineers could touch the car?" Come on! First of all, technical advice/technology transfer was by Team Kunimitsu/Mooncraft and NOT Mugen!! Secondly, the CBU Civic Ferio in Japan is only available in 1.5 and 1.7 litres. ONLY Malaysia and Thailand build 2.0 Civics.

Why do you insist on this 'Flown in from Japan' story and refuse to accept the fact that Malaysians can do something good? We all know it was not 100% done by Malaysians, as many of them had never even set foot in Sepang prior to volunteering for HMRT. Why this attitude of "If it's done here, it can't be good" Don't belittle the hard work of dozens of people by spreading lies, please!!
 

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come on guys...the team HRM already won the race..who cares, just dont look at their engine but they have the best team and package!

Ohh yeah btw, anyone here already have a partner for the 300KM race in PG?
 

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No need names but the drivers themselves......
 

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Are you trying to tell me that one of the drivers THEMSELVES told you that:

1) The car was CBU, built up in Japan and flow in
2) Only Mugen engineers were allowed to touch it

Which driver?
Takahashi Kunimitsu?
Hidetoshi Mitsusada?
Tommy Lee?
Hiroki Katoh?
Eddie Lew?
Farriz Fauzy?

And you still believe in this fairy tale eh, and you've been telling everyone this story? Check your facts, dude. If a driver did tell, please name the driver! Otherwise I would consider this yet another LIE!

Read http://asia.vtec.net/article/MME2004Race/index.html
 

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either Im the liar or the drivers who told me this are liars...
so I leave it at that........and no, other than this thread Ive not been telling everyone this story but infact been hearing stories.

But whatever the case Im not here to belittle HMRTs victory. They won it fair and square and they were a force to reckon with in the first place
but why the need to always hype on the bcos its a "local team" we must give them extra credit we must be extra proud when we all only know half the story. Do you know that whats published in the media are normally through press releases written either by the company themselves or the Ad agency and normally its what they want published.

I think the reason here for the hype about being "local" is either way its a win win situation.....Loose: aiyah we all "local team" mah...Win: We all "local team" you know..in that way Honda Japan dont drop waterface.


but come to think of it all the teams were local even team Amprex were ran by Malaysians
 

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Without prejudice, I must say that your stance from the start has been to tell so convincingly, what is just a rumour, and a lie. The person who told you this is either clueless, or I daresay, a liar. But for what reason this lie was told, I don't know. Why, when challenged to give facts or name names, you resort to 'A little bird told me' stand? Do you have chassis numbers to prove it was CBU and not Melaka assembled CKD? Can you name 'the driver' who told you the story?

Yes I do know what a press release is, but the Star article which mentioned the cars were CBU, flown in from Japan was sadly, incorrect reporting. But why do you automatically assume what was told to the media and the public was BS, and as you said, "we all only know half the story"? Did you read the WongKN article which I posted (check the link above).

I guess you just have some prejudicial sentiment deep inside, to automatically brand them as giving a phony story ... as you put it. "it was all a marketing ploy to tell the masses that the car was done locally to boost confidence in locally assembled Honda cars"

Well this lie has been perpetuated by you, whether you realise it or not, whether within this forum or not and it's a disgrace to all who've worked hard at what they did. Sorry but I know what I know, and I must voice my total disagreement with what you've posted on this subject, and until you present factual evidence, you must be considered incorrect, posting irresponsible, unfair and slanderous comments.
 

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Im not saying what the media was saying is BS..but as normal as any report in the media is concern its always half the story...thats why we all know only half the story.
In order to protect "the little bird" , I admit Ive been incorrect, posting irresponsible, unfair and slanderous comments.

The END
 

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you know what guys?

methinks, (separate topic ;) )
we should at least support the organisers' slightly higher safety standard requirements and keeping to that, as i noticed,

we've drivers and refuellers that:

don't really have a FIA-spec fireproof suit
don't really have a decent standard (British at least!) helmet. SiRiM won't cut it..
no fire-proof balaclava..
FIA-spec shoes

sigh.

our Malaysian attitude towards safety must change for the better.
 

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I bought the latest issue of Autocar Asean Edition and inside there is a Honda brochure which has a small article on Honda's racing activities in Malaysia.

Basically, Honda's announcement to the public is that the Honda Malaysia Racing Team is using the Pagoh-assembled Civic with a 230bhp K20 2.0 i-VTEC engine tuned by M-TEC Co. Ltd, Brembo brakes, Enkei rims and weighs only 980kg.

ninja, u r rite. If you can't afford basic proper safety equipment like FIA approved fire extinguisher, FIA fire retardant suit, balaclava & gloves, etc, then don't enter FIA sanctioned events and complain about the cost of racing. MME is supposed to be the premier event of Malaysian saloon car racing so the race steward should have adhered 100% to the FIA regulations, esp related to safety.
 

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err one thing to say about honda team
got back up by the honda malaysia sure boleh la
can spend a lot $$$ what.
 

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Originally posted by cmng@Sep 6 2004, 12:24 PM
err one thing to say about honda team
got back up by the honda malaysia sure boleh la
can spend a lot $$$ what.
Just like the fox and the sour grapes, no point saying that the grapes are sour when u can't reach it.

The MME is a very prestigious racing event in Malaysia. It's not about the cost to win ratio of how much i can pay to what position i will be in. Whatever their cost is is not anyone's problem, since they're paying it. Having support by big sponsors doesn't guarantee a win i'm sure u know that.

So let's look forward to UMW or Tan Chong to come out with their MME version of cars and give HMRT a run for their money, shall we?

Congratulations again Honda Malaysia Racing Team! Yam Seng!
 

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Originally posted by MK84@Sep 6 2004, 02:43 PM
UMW? Ahahaha I highly doubt it.
Possible maaa. Thailand also got turbo'ed vios. So Malaysia should have something good for either their vios or altis. But i think they should promote their altis more cuz they've been overshadowed by their vios. Perhaps some of the toyota related clubs can approach umw toyota malaysia? No?
And since the sentra came up with their nismo version, i think they should also come up wif something more serious on the racefront.
My 2 sen.
 

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It's not a question of what platform to use. But more of IF they're willing to support a factory backed team.

As for platform, well they do have the T-Sport, albeit not locally. :)
 

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Originally posted by OSFlanker@Sep 5 2004, 11:23 PM
MME is supposed to be the premier event of Malaysian saloon car racing so the race steward should have adhered 100% to the FIA regulations, esp related to safety.
If that was the case I think on that day the grid would probably have only 20 cars :lol: :lol: :lol: Malaysia Boleh mah so everything also boleh loh. :lol: :lol:

OS, the pics you took the other day have they been developed yet, if its digital why dont you just email it to me. Ill pm you the address.

Yah I know how frustrating it is that you adhere to the rules and spend a bomb adhering to it and your next pit driver is wearing 'Sekaicho's'. (this brand still exist meh??).

Regarding the roll cages that are made locally how do we know whether it conforms to FIA regs.
1. By making it as per instruction from the rule book?Which I think thats what is being done now...except for a few who designed it themselves so that their car looks better so can go faster. :rolleyes:
2. The maker must be registered with FIA or AAM or whatever?


Wei, MK you orang SIC give some commentslah.......
 

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XXX, I develped the photos but left the album at the kart track! Will look for it and revert to you. Please PM me your number (too lazy to look for the business card you gave me!). Come to the BMW Club happy hour every Friday at Soul'ed Out from 7pm onwards! Come & share your racing stories with us.
 

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IMHO, the money spent on both cars, the consultants fee, drivers salary, etc. probably cost less than a Porsche GT3 (How much is a GT3 anyway?)

Money is VERY important. Many of us here could probably build world-class, magazine cover worthy cars if we had the cash. My daily driver is of 1988 vintage, and prior to that I was driving something even older than myself.
 

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