Malaysian Skyline Club?

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Last week I received an email from our friend Azmir/Blood Red regarding the official formation of a Malaysian Skyline Club (“MSC”) which he had discussed with another friend, Dr.D. Unfortunately, I did not take him seriously at the time as I was preoccupied with personal matters. Guilty as charged, my sincere apologies to both.

First, let me make it clear that I don’t have a vested interest in this and was simply asked for my opinion. I am not involved in the formation of the MSC (should it materialize) other than supporting the efforts of those who are and seek nothing in return other than the privilege of being a member. I believe a club should be run only by those whom are held in the highest regard by everyone, who are passionate and most importantly who are willing to sacrifice their time and effort to see this through.

Anyway, in an attempt to help get the ball rolling regarding the formal establishment of the Malaysian Skyline Club (“MSC”) as a proper society as recognized by the Registrar of Societies (“ROS”), I’ve decided the first place to start would be on Zerotohundred (“ZTH”) to gauge the interest of the online members while at the same time try to contact as many Nissan Skyline owners in Malaysia who are not active online members or not members at all. Basically, what needs to be discussed hopefully in an open forum are the following:

Fundamental Issues:

These are the basic issues that need to be answered and I have used the example of Skylines Australia (“SAU”) particularly the Western Australia (“WA”) chapter as a benchmark. Obviously it is meant to serve a bare minimum and is meant to provide some guidelines for the discussion.

  1. Is it necessary for a Malaysian Skyline Club to formally exist (meaning registered with the ROS, subject to the various requirements etc of the Societies Act 1966, etc)
  2. Are all the other clubs in Malaysia registered? (Malaysian Lancer Owners Club (“MLOC”) and the Caldina Club Malaysia (“CCM”) appear to be)
  3. Who will form the governing body of the club and how are they elected to office?
  4. Where will the club be based? (ROS requirements)
  5. Who are potential members and how many members could the MSC attract?
  6. How does one become a member and what is the criteria?
  7. How much does it cost to become a member – are there joining fees, yearly dues?
  8. As a member, what can one expect in return from the MSC? (SAU WA paid members who joined received a welcome pack which included some club merchandise and a membership card which entitled the members to a nominal discount at various automotive workshops)
  9. What type of club merchandise will the MSC have? (SAU WA had t-shirts, caps, stickers, lanyards, keychains – I have since contacted some suppliers who make these but the costs are either too expensive or they do not make small quantities)
  10. Is there an online forum for members of MSC to communicate? (SAU WA had forum members and paid members who had access to a separate section of the forums where club activities etc were organized)
  11. Will MSC events be open to non-members? (SAU had formal and informal events whereby informal ones were open to all car enthusiasts and sometimes co-hosted with other clubs such as Antilag)
  12. Will the MSC continue to piggyback on the Skyline section of ZTH and if so, will Tom actually allow such an arrangement (doubtful) and if the MSC were to host its own website and forum, how do they attract new members?


Legal and Technical Issues:

This is just an overview of what it means to be a proper society or club. It is by no means definitive and is meant to serve as a general overview; it is not comprehensive as there are many more details which I have yet to include as there is no point moving forward unless the questions listed above can be addressed satisfactorily beforehand.

Firstly, what is a society?
The ROS defines a society as an organization or club of more than 7 individuals that exists and operates in Malaysia with members from Malaysia. A society is a legal entity that can sue or be sued in the name of any of its office bearers.

How does one form a society?
There is an application process which has to be made involving various application forms (I think Azmir has all of the relevant forms). The society is governed by a committee of office bearers and these office bearers will be formally lodged with the ROS during the initial registration. At the same time, the constitution or rules of the society must also be included in the application so there has to be a pro tem committee that has to determine the rules of the society prior to the actual application process.

What does running a society involve?
Among other things each year after an AGM or if there isn’t one then within 60 days of the end of the calendar year the ROS requires copies of any amendments to the rules of the society (which cannot be changed without prior notification to the ROS anyway), complete list of members and office bearers etc, address or place of business, accounts for the last financial year just to begin with. The ROS can also request such information at any time.

Who is responsible for all that?
The office bearers are the ones responsible for providing all of the relevant information to the ROS as and when required.

What are office bearers again?
Office bearers are members holding positions in the society such as the President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer and Committee Members.

How does one become an office bearer?
Office bearers will be elected based on the rules of the society and will hold office for the period specified by those rules. Note that those of unsound minds, declared bankrupt, convicted of offence involving fines more than RM2,000 or jail terms of more than 1 year cannot become office bearers.


Before we get ahead of ourselves, it is important for everyone interested to register their interest, provide input on the fundamental issues listed above, help identify the pros and cons of being a formal club and most importantly step forward and help Blood Red and Dr.D make this into reality. It would be advantageous if more information on how clubs like MLOC and CCM were setup and how they operate were available.

Ok BR/Dr.D, over to you guys :burnout:
 

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thanx pimpin.. will be discussing more on this matter..anyways, wanna see who would be interested in this formation.. lets do a head count

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle

well u get the idea.. this continue the numbers
 
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Hey what about the thread starter? :bawling:

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]

I'm more of a follower though so I volunteer as a member. :driver:
 

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May I offer some little comments?

I have had some prior experience in car clubs and ROS. I started and founded the V-Sixers: Perdana V6 Club way back in Jan 2001. It's a car club for well, the Proton Perdana. At it's peak we have 600 very active members all across the country. Huge number of activites from many tracks days (SIC, Batu Tiga, Pasir Gudang), autocross, sunday drives, interstate excursions, overseas drive, gatherings, etc....

Lots of memories. One of the bigger interstate drive/convoy we had was 60 cars with full police escort with assistance of superbikes from KL Bikers Club for 3 full days.

The committee after my handover even listed the club into the Malaysian Book of Records in 2007 as the "Longest Distance Traveled" by a car club. A convoy of 53 cars drove 1777km. Goodyear was one of the proud sponsors. :) (link)

The club were very much supported by the manufacturers, distributors, vendors, etc.... The club is still in existance till today. Yes it was a registered society with the ROS. With that, I would like to offer in some comments on the possible formation of the Malaysian Skyline Club.



To start off a club (whether registered or not) is the easy part. To maintain it is not. Firstly the club needs committed committee members who are willing to provide their FULLEST time to run it. And these folks will have to be willing to do it for the passion and not for other vested interest. When a bad hat appears, it will wreak havoc. When committee failed to turn up for weekly meetings, you have problems. I am sure you would have heard of many car club stories.

To get it registered, you'll need to have a pro-tem committee. Positions like President, Vice-President, Secretary, Treasurer, etc... will have to be filled. Those are the major ones, of course you'll also need Merchandisor, Event chaps, etc...

These names will be submitted to ROS as the working committee until the next AGM where it will be open for re-election. There will be the need to have proper documentations on financials, meeting minutes, etc....

I can see that most active members who wishes to form the club are in the Klang Valley thus you can only have the club named Kelab Skyline Selangor and not Kelab Skyline Malaysia. For it to carry the Malaysia word, you need to have proper working committee and members in at least 7 states - that was the rules then, it might/might not apply today.

As a registered society, there is a clause that members have to pay fees/yuran. I tried to remove that from the regulation but it was rejected by ROS. So you must charge a fee. Well it can be just RM1 for all that matters.

Actually what is the main reason for the Malaysian Skyline Club to be registered with ROS? Having a registered club may sound good and all but with it comes great amount of paperwork for the committee and especially the secretary. And when you start collecting money that is where you might have possible issues. Eg. a chap in Muar complains on why does he pays the fees when all the activities are in the Klang Valley and he does not benefit from the events or there are no partners that offer him special discount in Muar. You know, stuffs like that.

Just to be clear, I am not trying to sound negative or anything, in fact I am all for the an active Malaysian Skyline Club. Perhaps would it be better if the club pro-tem committee can be formed first and have them run the club for a proper period of time before this major step is taken?
 

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Hi guys, when they wanted to register Nismo club..there was alot of small issues that everyone had a diff view on..which resulted in lots of meetings before it was finally done with roc. And yes, keeping non klang valley peeps happy is not an easy task.
My 2cents :)
 

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1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin

I'm all for it too..

But we need to look into what Eujin and DinNismo have stated earlier.. Registering is the easy part, getting members especially non-Klang Valley peeps happy is a different matter..

Another Teh Tarik call is needed perhaps?
 

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Yes, full support for Inline-sixers..hehehe

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin
7) Tomiya Takato/Kyle
8) geber
 

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Eh my name not listed one.

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin
7) Tomiya Takato/Kyle
8) geber
9) V-Spec
 

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me to..

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin
7) Tomiya Takato/Kyle
8) geber
9) V-Spec
10) zamad7 - CENTER REGION
 

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I'm in too...

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin
7) Tomiya Takato/Kyle
8) geber
9) V-Spec
10) zamad7 - CENTER REGION
11) frootloops
 

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I'm in... so does this means that night/morning drives are gonna be legal after that?? :biggrin:

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin
7) Tomiya Takato/Kyle
8) geber
9) V-Spec
10) frootloops
11) BNR
 

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oke je..

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin
7) Tomiya Takato/Kyle
8) geber
9) V-Spec
10) frootloops
11) BNR
12) POKKU
 

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I'm in..

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin
7) Tomiya Takato/Kyle
8) geber
9) V-Spec
10) frootloops
11) BNR
12) POKKU
13) Rokok_sebatang
 

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let's make it happen

1) dr.d
2) gobiz
3) eagle
4) blood red
5) [PIMPIN]
6) Temujin
7) Tomiya Takato/Kyle
8) geber
9) V-Spec
10) frootloops
11) BNR
12) POKKU
13) Rokok_sebatang
14) lemon_demon @ andy