Civic EG vs Satria Gti

[WRM]

Greetings all sifus n experts in motoring.
I am a student n looking for a 2 door/small car to commute with daddy budget of 25K-30K.
After looking in market i locked down into this 2.

EG vs SGTi.(recommend if thers other!)

Plz ADVISE reg which is better in terms of FC, TopSpeed, and daily driveable(soft clutch etc)

I understand tht eg is very older thn sgti (>17yrs) however,its also a HONDA..
(Ps:i saw this yellow eg on net n heart is touched)

Appreciate your views :)

 

[yeehau86]

you can consider EK, it is not as old as EG...
I would prefer Honda than SGTi as it has a B16A Vtec engine inside..

or you can take the Sedan type of EG / EK, it is at late 90's..I saw before in Motor Trader it has B20A engine inside

 

[arrowhead]

i highly doubt u can get an EG for that price, whatmore an EK.

as surveyed, the price for a EG is very close to 40k. Be it transplanted/converted or original.

yeehau86: there's no such things as B20A! B20B got la, and with that i highly doubt it will sell for <30k. those are torque monsters!

 

[aalto]

This is honda forum....for sure everybody say go for EG...

On another note, just take account the pros and cons :

Honda EG :
Pros :
1. Damn sexy
2. B16a....damn syiok engine + infinite mod options
3. Double wishbone suspension front & rear
4. Better build quality
5. Its a honda maa

Cons :
1. Hard to find stock & in good condition
2. Parts more expensive
3. Old chassis / engine (wear & tear) = higher maintenance cost


Satria GTI
Pros :
1. Newer chassis / engine
2. Cheaper parts
3. Quite good handling
4. Easily can convert to turbo/mitsu engine
3. Can join a satria GTI club....

Cons :
1. Need to spend money abit to catch up to B16a EG (even in stock form)
2. Higher risk of theft/ break in
3. Build quality (especially interior)

For FC
- in stock condition both are almost the same, expect around RM15 = 110km

For topspeed
- In stock condition, EG B16A has speed cut at 180kmh, if removed you could get around 230 kmh. As for GTI, you could get around 220km/h

As for clutch
- In stock form, both are quite light and easily driven, IMO GTI is just a little bit harder.

Just go with your gut feelings......use the force

Hope this helps.

 

[ehdrian]

sgti certainly can be loaned higher than eg..if u choose sgti then go 4 turbo, otherwise just get a honda if u wish to play NA..

 

[AD_EG]

EG !!!! 100% in performance and also looks and handling !!

OVERALL !!!!



about parts its not that hard to get bro....still can source parts easily

 

[yeehau86]

i highly doubt u can get an EG for that price, whatmore an EK.

as surveyed, the price for a EG is very close to 40k. Be it transplanted/converted or original.

yeehau86: there's no such things as B20A! B20B got la, and with that i highly doubt it will sell for <30k. those are torque monsters!

opps, maybe I remember it wrongly..B20B is considered big Vtec, right? that's why it has high torque

 

[arrowhead]

B20 is a hybrid engine. its a combination of either a B16A/16B/18C/18CR head + B20 block from the Honda CRV.

why high torque? cuz its a 2.0!

btw, dont listen to AD_EG.... EK ALL THE WAAYYYYY!!!

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

No dont listen to either of them, EG FTW Hahaha

 

[yeehau86]

WRM
I found this, hope this helps:
Civic EG 2 doors (RM 3x,xxx)
B16A
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...-honda-civic-eg6-with-vtec-b16a-for-sale.html
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/cars-for-sale/318220-eg6-for-sale.html
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/cars-for-sale/321343-wts-honda-civic-eg.html

B18C
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/cars-for-sale/316878-honda-civic-eg-2doors-convert-b18c.html

Civic EG 4 doors (RM 28,500)
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/cars-for-sale/321566-honda-eg-vtec-1-8-a.html

arrowhead
thanks for the info, I still newbie

 

[arrowhead]

no prob bro, everybody has to start somewhere.

im also a noob still. i disturb AD_EG alot thats why he ignoring me now... LOLOL!

but really, EK ALL THE WAYYYY !

 

[AD_EG]

no prob bro, everybody has to start somewhere.

im also a noob still. i disturb AD_EG alot thats why he ignoring me now... LOLOL!

but really, EK ALL THE WAYYYY !

Eh ! don listen to him ...EK FTW !!!! OOoopppsss

hahahha...if got budget i sure say EK la bro...but since its between EG and Satria...i say EG la ...

when i ignore u la wei ?? hahaha don simply say things ah ...after i say in public your next top secret mod !

 

[yeehau86]

Eh ! don listen to him ...EK FTW !!!! OOoopppsss

hahahha...if got budget i sure say EK la bro...but since its between EG and Satria...i say EG la ...

when i ignore u la wei ?? hahaha don simply say things ah ...after i say in public your next top secret mod !

what is the top secret mod? Ambi Pure Aqua flavour? or Premier Tissue?
come tell us

 

[arrowhead]

Eh ! don listen to him ...EK FTW !!!! OOoopppsss

hahahha...if got budget i sure say EK la bro...but since its between EG and Satria...i say EG la ...

when i ignore u la wei ?? hahaha don simply say things ah ...after i say in public your next top secret mod !

Omg! U wouldn't!! muahahahaha.

 

[AD_EG]

Would I ? :flute:

 

[WRM]

Thanx bros!aalto ad_eg,yeehau86, and arrow head n others! reali nid it.Hav a lot to learn from u guys..if yall willing to teach.hehe.


ek is reali far from budget la frenz.Unless im paying for the car.Hw much can loan go anywy.

I test drive EG today.Heart raced liao!pickup was crazy???(dunno if i cud handle it)
he put B20b block onto a b16.u can feel the torque from low rpm edi..What more wen reach the vtec.

He got new adjustable,plus new clutch(ogura?),new lsd gearbox n kinda new beautiful rims+tyres.screen+pioneer audio sys.seat not so gud though.He givin the old gearbox+b16 block.

Selling for 35K.Dun wan reduce a lil bit oso.What u guys think?
Wuld it depreciate much after 5 yrs?

PS:oso saw a satria gti today,however didnt attract heart like eg does.its juz a beauty.Does the satria GTi pick up like tht?

 

[freeman1314]

old gearbox is 16a non lsd or with lsd?
What adjustable? What tyre? How is the car chasis condition?
After convert to hybrid b20 , now he change back 16a block for u ?

EG is a nice car, and b-series engine have great potential, u won't regret but have to prepare some cash. Parts for satria is cheaper than parts for EG. So sometimes when u wanna find parts u would probably be cursing after comparing the price with satria. But the gud part is u get a front rear double wish bone suspension system.

 

[camshaft]

I test drive EG today.Heart raced liao!pickup was crazy???(dunno if i cud handle it)
he put B20b block onto a b16.u can feel the torque from low rpm edi..What more wen reach the vtec.

u get used to it bro..trust me....when the time comes...sometimes 2 liter still not enough...hahaha...

PS:oso saw a satria gti today,however didnt attract heart like eg does.its juz a beauty.Does the satria GTi pick up like tht?

very rare to see n/a gti can catch up with 2 liter EG....it happen before but mostly 2 liter vtec is faster...

my advice bro...go for honda...after all...u can get a gti...and mybe u can mod it..put in turbo...swap evo engine...and be faster than k20 vtec...but the end of the day..it's still a proton...resale value sure drop kaw2...hahaha

 

[WRM]

old gearbox is 16a non lsd or with lsd?
What adjustable? What tyre? How is the car chasis condition?
After convert to hybrid b20 , now he change back 16a block for u ?

EG is a nice car, and b-series engine have great potential, u won't regret but have to prepare some cash. Parts for satria is cheaper than parts for EG. So sometimes when u wanna find parts u would probably be cursing after comparing the price with satria. But the gud part is u get a front rear double wish bone suspension system.

Freeman,do u mean tht b16a better thn b20?may i ask in wut aspect..
Yes camshaft i agree with U man,proton sure drop kaw2,thts y i m more to honda.
Anywy,can i get EK for 35k?

 

[yeehau86]

Anywy,can i get EK for 35k?

I don't think so as the market price for EK 2 doors is far away from your budget. Even for EK 4 doors is about RM 4x,xxx

check out this price for EK 2 Doors
B18C (RM 60,000)
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/cars-for-sale/319525-civic-ek-2door-1-8cc.html

EG 2 Doors I found one with B16A (RM 37,500)
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/cars-for-sale/321912-honda-civic-eg6-with-vtec-b16a-for-sale.html

if your budget is tight, you may go for EG 4 doors. I found one EG 4 doors with B16A. Price is RM 29,500
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/cars-for-sale/320591-civic-b20.html

 

[SataniC]

i highly doubt u can get an EG for that price, whatmore an EK.

as surveyed, the price for a EG is very close to 40k. Be it transplanted/converted or original.

yeehau86: there's no such things as B20A! B20B got la, and with that i highly doubt it will sell for <30k. those are torque monsters!

emm...yes there is...B20A is a EFI 2.0L engine usually found on Accords...from 1989 till 1992...

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opps, maybe I remember it wrongly..B20B is considered big Vtec, right? that's why it has high torque

There's no such things as Small VTEC Big VTEC!! Thats just kedai potong wanna tipu you to sell engine

 

[aalto]

The price of an EG 2 door has really risen lately, in 2008 you could easily get one around 25K-30K....now its in the 35K region.....car getting older, no more loans but still the price shoot up....

WRM, if your on a tight budget i'd advise you not to rush into this, take your time in finding one thats in good condition & suitable to your budget. Don't spend all your money in getting the car, budget at least 1K-2K for maintenance afterwards .....old car for sure gonna have problems after you buy it....

And one more friendly advise, dont get over exited with highly modded cars.....for reliability usually a stock engine is the best...IMO, with your budget and concerns on FC & being a newbie, better stay away from 2.0L engines for now....find a B16A that as close to stock as possible...
...I met a lot of people that want a "super fast vtec" but dont want to change all the necessary parts coz dont have budget and like to lenjan the hell out of their cars.....when car breaks down, no money to repair...then begging at pomen to give discount & hutang....dont be like that man.....if no budget just remain stock!

 

[yeehau86]

emm...yes there is...B20A is a EFI 2.0L engine usually found on Accords...from 1989 till 1992...

so my memory was right

 

[SataniC]

not exactly...B20A is an Si engine...no VTEC...ur talking bou B20B...franken VTECHHHHhhh

 

[WRM]

And one more friendly advise, dont get over exited with highly modded cars.....for reliability usually a stock engine is the best...IMO, with your budget and concerns on FC & being a newbie, better stay away from 2.0L engines for now....find a B16A that as close to stock as possible...
...I met a lot of people that want a "super fast vtec" but dont want to change all the necessary parts coz dont have budget and like to lenjan the hell out of their cars.....when car breaks down, no money to repair...then begging at pomen to give discount & hutang....dont be like that man.....if no budget just remain stock!

Yup.thts a gud point there bro.noted.
1more thg,concerning about roadtax for 2.0+heard no subsidy later on..?