Best engine to replace my 4A-FE in a AE111?

Shinda · Jun 29, 2005

Hi

i'm wondering what the best engine drop would be to do in my AE111 - easiest probibly the best, was thinking maybe of a 3S-GTE or something

Possibly just turbo charge my FE?

GRexer · Jun 29, 2005

The Blacktop 4A-GE would be the best drop in. If i'm not mistaken, the 3S-GTE is not a direct fit.

Or, u can get a 4A-GZE and turbo-charge it(removing the supercharger)

rollakid · Jun 29, 2005

you'll get more answer if you post in Toyota Section. there are sifoos that rarely post outside toyota section.

anyway. 3sgte would be abit too big and heavy and will ruin the balance of the car. its not really a good choice unless you are after drag racing. AE111 is an FF layout car, thus having a heavy front end might make your car understeer all the time when you turn into the corner.

turbocharge your 4afe is another choice of course, there's people who is doing it. go for NA or Turbo is up to you. If you want turbo, most people in the toyota section probably suggest you get a 4agze and turbocharged it (sell the SC). OR, get a 6 speed blacktop halfcut from jdm ae111 and swap everything over.

i'm not very sure, but i heard that putting 3sgte inside AE chasis not only upset the balance, but also abit too tight. you basically can't do anything to it once the engine is in cuz there's just not enough space. imagine something gone wrong with the engine and you have to take the engine out to fix it.

just my 2 cent. cheers.

rollakid · Jun 29, 2005

whoa.. somebody beat me by 1 minute :D

Shinda · Jun 29, 2005

after a turbo engine drop in i should mention.

kinda wanna go pppitsiiii

rollakid · Jun 29, 2005

then 4agze would be a nice choice for you. the block is strong and the stock internal is good all the way up to 300hp. you don't really need more than that cuz FF chasis like the corolla can't really use all those power anyway.

for lower boost go for the late generation gze cuz the comp ratio is higher at 8.9:1. good for normal driving cuz it still have some power when you are off the boost. for high boost then get the older piston at 8:1 comp ratio.

Shinda · Jun 29, 2005

thanks man i reposted in the toyota part

GRexer · Jun 29, 2005

Yeah... the 4A-GZE would be a good idea if u are going for the turbo route, sell off the supercharger wouldn't be a hard thing to do. If not mistaken, earlier and later GZE's difference is in the engine management as well?

rollakid · Jun 29, 2005

GRexer said:
Yeah... the 4A-GZE would be a good idea if u are going for the turbo route, sell off the supercharger wouldn't be a hard thing to do. If not mistaken, earlier and later GZE's difference is in the engine management as well?

yes, the earlier model runs on AFM, while the later 2 models run on MAP. regarding the later model, some say that the unit on the late model AE92 supercharge is better than the one in AE101. so far i can't prove anything, just what i heard.

huakenny · Jun 29, 2005

Black-top twincam 20valve.....automatic...with 5 speed....or manual wit 6 speeds.....

if wan powerful....4A-Gze lo...supercharger engine.....but i suggest blacktop...smoother...my 2 cent

Shinda · Jun 30, 2005

huakenny said:
Black-top twincam 20valve.....automatic...with 5 speed....or manual wit 6 speeds.....

if wan powerful....4A-Gze lo...supercharger engine.....but i suggest blacktop...smoother...my 2 cent

So huakenny u recommend the black top with turbo on it?

fai · Jun 30, 2005

FYI.

http://www.toymods.org.au/4A-GTE/

huakenny · Jun 30, 2005

Shinda said:
So huakenny u recommend the black top with turbo on it?

if wan powerful.....put in supercharger engine n change to big pulley to gain more power.....the easiest way to increase power for supercharger.......

u add turbo only if u feels supercharger cant satisfy u...but i think supercharger itself if u mods it oledi fast enuf......my 2 cents

fai · Jun 30, 2005

4AGZTE - twin charge? hehehe...

Shinda · Jun 30, 2005

Can someone tell me the difference between a 4A-FE and a 4A-GE other than a black top 20v engine

GRexer · Jun 30, 2005

the F and G indicates something if i'm not mistaken, whereby the F = economy G = performance. Toyota have a standardise charactoring system but i'm not too fluent on that.

Basically, the 4A-GE doesn't just mean the blacktop 20v, it can also mean the silvertop 20v, the 16v smallport/bigport.

huakenny · Jun 30, 2005

Shinda said:
Can someone tell me the difference between a 4A-FE and a 4A-GE other than a black top 20v engine

4A-fe is 1.5 if not mistaken n no power....Auntie/uncle drive ok la.....for us....4A-Ge consider ok...1.6cc DOHC engine.....NA la of course....

go for supercharger if wan mods or hv fun.....d pick-up is better than turbo car if mods...n climb hill is damn powerful......

huakenny · Jun 30, 2005

GRexer said:
the F and G indicates something if i'm not mistaken, whereby the F = economy G = performance. Toyota have a standardise charactoring system but i'm not too fluent on that.

Basically, the 4A-GE doesn't just mean the blacktop 20v, it can also mean the silvertop 20v, the 16v smallport/bigport.

yea...4A-Ge was born since toyota AE86...long long time ago.....hence..it still powerful...

try ae92 4A-ge auto with wira 1.6 auto.....wira smell my smoke.......

fai · Jun 30, 2005

4AFE is 1600cc. Same displacement w/ 4AGE. The different is the head design different.

huakenny said:
4A-fe is 1.5 if not mistaken n no power....Auntie/uncle drive ok la.....for us....4A-Ge consider ok...1.6cc DOHC engine.....NA la of course....

go for supercharger if wan mods or hv fun.....d pick-up is better than turbo car if mods...n climb hill is damn powerful......

coolbert · Jun 30, 2005

get my toyota celica st202 :)
with 3s-ge na engine, 180bhp.

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