Ram air on 2zzge

[GearSpeedKelvo]

I want to do with engine is not to have an air filter and intake tube first.
Can I just leave the MAF meaning I don't use the MAF sensor since I'm on ram air?
Will it have problems on the engine?

Thanks.

 

[vr2turbo]

I want to do with engine is not to have an air filter and intake tube first.
Can I just leave the MAF meaning I don't use the MAF sensor since I'm on ram air?
Will it have problems on the engine?

Thanks.

Ram air is just an intake. MAF sensor is for signal to ECU so that it know how much air is going in, so how can you leave that out? More over taking the air filter away then dirt will get into your engine?

 

[ken yeang]

Air filter are prescribed to cars all over the world for a reason.....

Unless you are driving in dust free environment.....which is highly unlikely. Even car driven on track uses filter. God knows what could be sucked into the engine in the thick of the action.

 

[GearSpeedKelvo]

I've a couple of vehicles in racing that doesn't have an air filter they just have a intake tube.

 

[vr2turbo]

I've a couple of vehicles in racing that doesn't have an air filter they just have a intake tube.

Racing only use in track for a short period. If for daily use then different. Professional racing like F1 change engine every two races....

 

[ken yeang]

I've a couple of vehicles in racing that doesn't have an air filter they just have a intake tube.

Well, it is up to you to use or not to use a filter. It's your car, it's your choice, right?

 

[vr2turbo]

Well, it is up to you to use or not to use a filter. It's your car, it's your choice, right?

Yup, exactly. Not for us to say yes or no, just comment only, and finally decision belongs to owner....

 

[GearSpeedKelvo]

Yup we own the car and its for race use only.
Thanks for the inputs and comments I really appreciate it.

 

[Ryuuken]

I wont really recommend to use without air filter.. Unless..of course u do have plenty of monry to cover up the damages such as scratch in the combustion chamber and all. Yes air filter does restrict the airflow,but it was design for a purpose,to ensure the reliability of the engine. If ur name is not najib razak i suggest u to use the air filter. Btw,just remove the maf sensor and use a map sensor. If ur serious about getting it for a race. Maf sensor creates tons of problem especially in old car..any slight problem would cause misfiring and over rich fuel due to the ecu protective drive.

 

[GearSpeedKelvo]

I wont really recommend to use without air filter.. Unless..of course u do have plenty of monry to cover up the damages such as scratch in the combustion chamber and all. Yes air filter does restrict the airflow,but it was design for a purpose,to ensure the reliability of the engine. If ur name is not najib razak i suggest u to use the air filter. Btw,just remove the maf sensor and use a map sensor. If ur serious about getting it for a race. Maf sensor creates tons of problem especially in old car..any slight problem would cause misfiring and over rich fuel due to the ecu protective drive.

This is also what I am thinking put a map sensor instead.
Any brand of map sensor do you know?

and I'm not najib razak but we call the car a ISIS or chicken car.I got the name because some guy here wants a sure win race and we just gave him a sure win race of our own.lolz. that is a chicken match which means it is a head on collision match with LPG tank in the middle of the head on collision vehicles on top speed.lolz.
We all know that once he wins his ego goes higher. We just gave him some lesson that he though that he has enough ego to go higher than the head on collision vehicles.He did not reply anymore after we mention him the head on collision match. The not sponsored shop's mechanic laughed when I mention that story of mine.

 

[Ryuuken]

Standalone.

 

[Dailamator]

This is also what I am thinking put a map sensor instead.
Any brand of map sensor do you know?

and I'm not najib razak but we call the car a ISIS or chicken car.I got the name because some guy here wants a sure win race and we just gave him a sure win race of our own.lolz. that is a chicken match which means it is a head on collision match with LPG tank in the middle of the head on collision vehicles on top speed.lolz.
We all know that once he wins his ego goes higher. We just gave him some lesson that he though that he has enough ego to go higher than the head on collision vehicles.He did not reply anymore after we mention him the head on collision match. The not sponsored shop's mechanic laughed when I mention that story of mine.

will he still be alive after the collision to even have ego??

 

[GearSpeedKelvo]

will he still be alive after the collision to even have ego??

If he has guts and ego to challenge he would agree on the chicken match but he did not agree. He did not reply on my text anymore. Also we don't know what set up his car has thats why we mentioned the chicken match. He also said through text that he was defeated already against a corolla and wanted a test race but we know it was just an invitation for us to agree on the race but we did not bite on it we just said the chicken match challenge.I don't want to challenge anyone anyway he just kept bugging through text almost every friday and saturday night.
I'd rather lose on a faster car than a slower car but mine would also be faster meaning it would be a close race.

 

[Dailamator]

He did not reply on my text anymore. Also we don't know what set up his car has thats why we mentioned the chicken match. He also said through text that he was defeated already with a corolla but we know it was just an invitation for us to agree on the race but we did not bite on it we just said the chicken match challenge.I don't want to challenge anyone anyway he just kept bugging through text almost every friday and saturday night.
I'd rather lose on a faster car than a slower car but mine would also be faster meaning it would be a close race.

I am lost. So both cars are going to collide? Or race to hit the lpg tank or drag race or????

 

[GearSpeedKelvo]

I am lost. So both cars are going to collide? Or race to hit the lpg tank or drag race or????

Yes it is a head on collision match of two cars we just added the LPG tank in the middle of the head on collision vehicles to see if the texter has enough ego and to make it more exciting since he kept bugging us.Even my friends were laughing when I told that story to them while we are drinking beer.lolz.
You avoid or you fail to hit the LPG tank and you lost the head on collision match.Its an old school race.

To make things clear here is an example of it.

60 mph head on crash - YouTube

here is another
Stuntbusters: Head-On Collision (1962 Cadillac vs. 2002 Cadillac) - YouTube


The only difference is it must have an LPG tank in the middle of the head on collision vehicles and run on top speed.Nobody can't cheat this race because if you brake you automatically lose the race and no reasons whatsoever.
So in general if someone challenge you to a drag race and you know its a sure win race he wanted just mention the chicken match and he'll walk out on the challenge.

 

[Dailamator]

So it's not a sure win race la. What if the other driver is suicidal and goes all in and ur friend chickens out. Even worse if no one chickens out both players lose. Lose cars. And lose lives probably. But that's none of my business. :smoking: but here is what i know. Without a maf sensor ur engine will misfire a lot and ur power will be less and heavy black and fuel consumption and many many issues. Get a stand alone ECU with map sensor OR a similar car with map sensor. Like in 4age fourth gen silvertop use maf but 5th gen blacktop uses map. So people often convert to blacktop wiring and ecu.

 

[GearSpeedKelvo]

So it's not a sure win race la. What if the other driver is suicidal and goes all in and ur friend chickens out. Even worse if no one chickens out both players lose. Lose cars. And lose lives probably. But that's none of my business. :smoking: but here is what i know. Without a maf sensor ur engine will misfire a lot and ur power will be less and heavy black and fuel consumption and many many issues. Get a stand alone ECU with map sensor OR a similar car with map sensor. Like in 4age fourth gen silvertop use maf but 5th gen blacktop uses map. So people often convert to blacktop wiring and ecu.

Its still a sure win race because somone will chicken out.If no one avoids then its a draw.
The texter is not my friend he is just someone who wants a sure win race.I don't think a friend would like that kind of a challenge.

 

[Dailamator]

Every race is a sure win race then. But in this case there is a lot on stake to be lost

 

[GearSpeedKelvo]

Like I said we just gave him our own kind of sure win race.lolz.We won't bite on his kind of sure win race because we know its a trap. Ours is not a trap. There is also a lot at stake in racing and a lot to be lost in racing.