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<blockquote data-quote="Rudeboy" data-source="post: 208121" data-attributes="member: 7361"><p>Riggy, whoever and wherever you are, you have raised some interesting points about the Satria R3. But typical of a depressed and sidelined forummer, your gripe sounds remarkably familiar and can be grouped with other Proton-bashing posts.</p><p></p><p>Although you are clearly disappointed with the specification of the Satria R3, you know that all of us have to appreciate the efforts of Proton(yes, the tin-milo, eternally bad car company) to even come out with an enthusiasts' special.</p><p></p><p>I will try and appease your pain by justifying some of the things that seemed to have bothered you: </p><p></p><p>1) The SR4 seats: Whether it is expensive of not, we wouldn't know(all you have is speculation not evidence). In any case, it is better looking and formed than the older SR3, so for it to be a part of the Satria R3 is justification in itself</p><p></p><p>2) Carbon/aluminium bonnet: you may be right to say that they should've included a proper lightweight material on the car but you have to remember that buying a carbon bonnet in Sunway and manufacturing it responsibly are two different things. Cost is not the only factor sometimes. It has to meet a certain standard and carbon fibre things come in different grades. But since you just have to have it in an enthusiasts' car, they may have decided to play safe and went for the winglet instead.</p><p></p><p>3) Lap time claim: OK I agree with you on this one. The lap times are done by Tengku Djan, the Motorsport Division's star driver. Obviously, you and I can't possibly match it but its an indication of the car's ability nevertheless. But the marketing department should've instead put it in a different way because claims like this can be contested and may create legal problems. </p><p></p><p>At the end of the day, enthusiasts love to see numbers and that's why it is presented in such a way.</p><p></p><p>4) The Advanti wheels(not rims): This is a matter of taste. Just as any new cars, if you don't like 'em you can change 'em. But safe to say that as far as unsprung weight is concerned, it is the correct wheels for the car.</p><p></p><p>5) R3 power: 140bhp may not be much, I know. Why not 200bhp? or lets say 300? You like? </p><p></p><p>Lets be realistic here. Proton is a responsible car company as well as a small one. Cost and safety is a concern. If you go to any bengkel, they can do all sorts of things to make your car fly to the moon but this is of course an irresponsible way of doing things. The car comes with a warranty and to honour that - as well as some cost considerations with 150 cars - 140 is a safe number. </p><p></p><p>In case you forget, going fast is not just a matter of engine power, it also have to do with sweet handling and the R3 has plenty in that department.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rudeboy, post: 208121, member: 7361"] Riggy, whoever and wherever you are, you have raised some interesting points about the Satria R3. But typical of a depressed and sidelined forummer, your gripe sounds remarkably familiar and can be grouped with other Proton-bashing posts. Although you are clearly disappointed with the specification of the Satria R3, you know that all of us have to appreciate the efforts of Proton(yes, the tin-milo, eternally bad car company) to even come out with an enthusiasts' special. I will try and appease your pain by justifying some of the things that seemed to have bothered you: 1) The SR4 seats: Whether it is expensive of not, we wouldn't know(all you have is speculation not evidence). In any case, it is better looking and formed than the older SR3, so for it to be a part of the Satria R3 is justification in itself 2) Carbon/aluminium bonnet: you may be right to say that they should've included a proper lightweight material on the car but you have to remember that buying a carbon bonnet in Sunway and manufacturing it responsibly are two different things. Cost is not the only factor sometimes. It has to meet a certain standard and carbon fibre things come in different grades. But since you just have to have it in an enthusiasts' car, they may have decided to play safe and went for the winglet instead. 3) Lap time claim: OK I agree with you on this one. The lap times are done by Tengku Djan, the Motorsport Division's star driver. Obviously, you and I can't possibly match it but its an indication of the car's ability nevertheless. But the marketing department should've instead put it in a different way because claims like this can be contested and may create legal problems. At the end of the day, enthusiasts love to see numbers and that's why it is presented in such a way. 4) The Advanti wheels(not rims): This is a matter of taste. Just as any new cars, if you don't like 'em you can change 'em. But safe to say that as far as unsprung weight is concerned, it is the correct wheels for the car. 5) R3 power: 140bhp may not be much, I know. Why not 200bhp? or lets say 300? You like? Lets be realistic here. Proton is a responsible car company as well as a small one. Cost and safety is a concern. If you go to any bengkel, they can do all sorts of things to make your car fly to the moon but this is of course an irresponsible way of doing things. The car comes with a warranty and to honour that - as well as some cost considerations with 150 cars - 140 is a safe number. In case you forget, going fast is not just a matter of engine power, it also have to do with sweet handling and the R3 has plenty in that department. [/QUOTE]
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