How do we know if we modify our car LEGALLY?

[stanleycmw]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

I suggest you to install a CAT (difficult to get ori Evo 3 muffler) or if you have CAT, add extra mid muffler, change the buld to Philips Silver Vision (remember to adjust the level), put a Pivot Raizin (with grounding cable) then go to Puspakom and do a check up. Then keep the slips in your car next time (if passed without 'adjusting' the puspakom people).

Hi Bro csl... No bro...it's really hard to get the CAT for EVO 3...even new CATs from APEX'i are mostly made for EVO 6 or 7 and above. I've already got an enlarged, with thicker "walls" of mid muffler to shut down the muffler...and I still kena. Guess they were aimed at the size of the exhaust tip...not the noise. What happen next time if I changed to 2.5 inches tip with thunderous sound..."Terlalu bising! Tak boleh!"... (SIGH...SOBBING...WHAT SHOULD I DO...tis cannot...tat cannot...WEEPING)... :P

Well...I will try to see if there is any other way I could modify the HID together will some of the bulbs (especially those for Sportlights which are yellowish) into the headlamps... See the block...turn to yellow...with extra switch to immobilize the HID...after the block...turn to HID AGAIN! If I should get it done...will share with all of you guys...wish me luck.

 

[stanleycmw]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

Stanley,

Since they made you pay, why not make them justify their actions ?

You don't have to be rude but you can politely ask them to quote you the exact section of the regulations that they used to support the summons. Ask them nicely for a photocopy of the relevant sections. Tell them you want to know because you intend to change your car's equipment back to legal requirements. If possible, pin down that woman cop who wrote your summons and ask her to cough up the relevant sections.

The cops have to give you an answer when requested because of accountability. Legally, they are not obliged to simply turn you away with no explanations.

Hi Bro FVel...thanks for the suggestion. I went to the police department today...guess what? THEIR SYSTEM IS DOWN!!!! WALAU EH!!!!!! SIGH...So much to do when Malaysia Boleh.... Sure bro...will take your advise...see if they could provide any detail regulations or guidelines for supporting the ILLEGAL stuff...UBAHSUAI here UBAHSUAI there...especially the exhaust part...really make me feel so unfair... BIG BIG with silent..."Terlalu Besar...SAMAN!" SMALL SMALL with noise..."Terlalu Bising...SAMAN!"...gosh!

Hope they won't ask me to look for Puspakom or JPJ if I demanded some detail regulations or guidelines...push me to here then push me to there...you know lar...they are very clever in pushing techniques...

Alright bro...thanks again...HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008!!!

 

[maxwatt]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

Here's the link maxwatt

http://202.190.64.96/v5/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=72&limit=1&limitstart=1

Thanks bro

 

[huakenny]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

white halogen bulb is illegal since many years before.....even front or side signal also cannot in white color...

only oem HID is legal la...you install HID urself oso illegal unless u sent ur car for puspakom test, then its ok.

bout ekzos, they will only check it if your car make noise...if u pass the road block silently or slight noisy, guess they wont kacau u.

and before they saman, try to talk to them la...can be discuss one...talk in polite way la...

 

[Maxx]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

ha.. i know y u got saman for the exhaust..
its bcoz of the police woman.. if police man maybe (maybe lar..) not kena..

 

[huakenny]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

ha.. i know y u got saman for the exhaust..
its bcoz of the police woman.. if police man maybe (maybe lar..) not kena..

woman easier to talk somemore ma....can tease n kacau abit...no saman maybe...

maybe he carry his wife/gf, so no nego for it (joking)

 

[Dino@Casper]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

Just one comment after reading csl post.. please don't turn on hazard light in the rain.. that is illegal... for goodness its very distracting for other drivers.. as is natural to pay attention to it and too much focus will go towards that car..

 

[fstr]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

Hi bro fstrader... As the matter of fact...I've returned for already 5 years...first I was quite upset with all the authorities departments...such as bank...immigrant...and etc... The attitude is seriously disappointing, but I have already get used to it...

Well...I just owned my EVO 3 (finally...after saving all the money for owing this master piece) for not more than a year...trying to have everything tuned "low-profiled"...and ended up with "sanman"... SIGH... May be I have to go through the steps again...GETTING USED TO IT...

Happy New Year 2008 to you bro...thanks for your input.

no harm done and i hope u are not disturbed by my way of typing out things which are quite straight forward hehehehe...

yeah authorities as well as bank alike all are but mostly are the same as it used to be, we just have to get things to our own hands sometimes.

good for u E3 is one of my fav vehicles too but sadly kenot afford such classics :sleep:

 

[yeehau86]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

topic starter
take note that those BMW / M-Benz / Honda Civic, Accord are equipped with 4300K bulb temperature HID which is yellowish white, therefore it's perfectly 100% legal...anything above 6000k (pure white) is totally illegal because those bulbs above 6000k are either blue-ish white or purple, which are not allowed since it is dangerous to both of the driver and upcoming traffic..
by the way, what is your bulb type? r u using H4 type? if H4 type, it should be equipped with Hi/Lo beam. Therefore you can switch to high beam (yellow light) when there's police / road block in front u...i am using 6000k and do it everytime got JPJ block or traffic block..managed to escape everytime...so u do not need to remove your HID since it is nice ^_^
it depends your luck la anyway because during near festival days, they will come out to 'cari makan', so u must beware lor...they wan to get 'side income' ma...so u will notice they won't summon u on the spot,they will 'indirectly' ask you how u wan to settle,true? therefore although my 6000k is legal, they will also say it is illegal because it will grant them 'cash'

 

[Maxx]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

woman easier to talk somemore ma....can tease n kacau abit...no saman maybe...

maybe he carry his wife/gf, so no nego for it (joking)

ya ka..
maybe they saw, oh, big exhaust, must saman. eventhou not noisy..
if polieman maybe understand abit.

 

[stanleycmw]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

white halogen bulb is illegal since many years before.....even front or side signal also cannot in white color...

only oem HID is legal la...you install HID urself oso illegal unless u sent ur car for puspakom test, then its ok.

bout ekzos, they will only check it if your car make noise...if u pass the road block silently or slight noisy, guess they wont kacau u.

and before they saman, try to talk to them la...can be discuss one...talk in polite way la...

Hi bro huakenny... Thanks for the input bro. It's true that I admit the HID is already against the law...just that I thought it is legalized from some newspapers...guess sooner or later they will "open" a bit on the regulation and have the HID passed in a control manner... Hmm...good suggestion, as I could take my ride to Puspakom to have it looked looked...

For the exhaust...man I wasn't even step on the gas pedal...only like 30 km/h or less when I "cruised" to the spot... SIGH... Ialor...will certainly talk in polite way...if I was given the chance...

Anyway bro...thanks again... HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008.

 

[stanleycmw]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

ha.. i know y u got saman for the exhaust..
its bcoz of the police woman.. if police man maybe (maybe lar..) not kena..

Hi bro Maxx...it might be true bro... Sometimes male understand more towards car lar...(I'm not saying female don't know nothing but...most of the times...guys appear to be more understanding...)... Too bad they sent the woman...SIGH...too bad I wasn't handsome enough... Haa Haa...:hmmmm:

Thanks bro!

 

[stanleycmw]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

woman easier to talk somemore ma....can tease n kacau abit...no saman maybe...

maybe he carry his wife/gf, so no nego for it (joking)

Hi bro huakenny... I agreed with you bro... May be the policewoman thought: Walau...so old already with 30 years of age, hair-losing, fat fella still pretending to be young by driving such VROOM VROOM car.......I thought...I thought...the driver is young one...can "hook up" a bit...how could it be????? Even I don't to give "saman" but this one deserved it!

 

[stanleycmw]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

no harm done and i hope u are not disturbed by my way of typing out things which are quite straight forward hehehehe...

yeah authorities as well as bank alike all are but mostly are the same as it used to be, we just have to get things to our own hands sometimes.

good for u E3 is one of my fav vehicles too but sadly kenot afford such classics :sleep:

Hi bro fstrader... No problem...I guess I know what you mean by the time I read your posted reply... I never thought of that way...may be this it SO MUCH or SO FAR our place could go...or reach :thumpdown:. Just have to start getting used to it... :frown:

As the matter of fact...my favorite is FD...too bad due to my size...(178cm with more than 100KG) can't squeeze into the car...plus the reason that here in Kuching...not much mechanic really could handle rotary engine...so... Also...road conditions here really SUCKS!!!! Man..."heart painful" if my FD kena all those bumps and holes... So...just take E3 since most of the parts could be replaced with PROTON...so save a lot lar...

 

[stanleycmw]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

Hi bro yeehau86...

topic starter
take note that those BMW / M-Benz / Honda Civic, Accord are equipped with 4300K bulb temperature HID which is yellowish white, therefore it's perfectly 100% legal...anything above 6000k (pure white) is totally illegal because those bulbs above 6000k are either blue-ish white or purple, which are not allowed since it is dangerous to both of the driver and upcoming traffic..

That's what my mechanic (who also kena "saman" until scared) told me...there are many different HID as clarified from brightness... But he also mentioned that...just how many authorities will bring a brightness tester (if they have any) to the road block to test all the white headlights? Just cannot LOOK ONLY then concluded yours is legal and mine is not...or vice versa... But the rest...bro...I am totally with you...because I once I drove my wife's Kelisa...and a Toyota Hilux with HID behind me...man...I told you...almost got my eyes blinded...:motz:

by the way, what is your bulb type? r u using H4 type? if H4 type, it should be equipped with Hi/Lo beam. Therefore you can switch to high beam (yellow light) when there's police / road block in front u...i am using 6000k and do it everytime got JPJ block or traffic block..managed to escape everytime...so u do not need to remove your HID since it is nice ^_^

Yes H4 type... Exactly like what my mechanic said...he was looking into the headlights now and try to have it done with further modification... Try to get a sport light bulbs into the headlamp compartment...with extra switch... See BLOCK...disable the HID (High / Low Beam)...even if they came into your car and started twisting things...the HID just won't ON...only the yellow sport light bulbs... After they got enough fun...let you go...you can turn back your HID again... Well...hope he succeeded on that experiment on my ride...

it depends your luck la anyway because during near festival days, they will come out to 'cari makan', so u must beware lor...they wan to get 'side income' ma...so u will notice they won't summon u on the spot,they will 'indirectly' ask you how u wan to settle,true? therefore although my 6000k is legal, they will also say it is illegal because it will grant them 'cash'

I agreed bro. My luck really SUEI that night...almost 12 already and still kena...plus it's Christmas Eve...with my wife after having dinner from friend's party...with love songs and Christmas songs playing... SIGH... All mood gone already... They didn't even ask anything bro...just said, "Boss...saya nak saman..." then walked away...without letting me speak to them...

Anyway bro...thanks for the suggestion... HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008!

 

[yeehau86]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

so 'good' ar the police? maybe your luck really bad cuz seldom got police who dowan money...how come your H4 bulb didn't come with Hi/Lo beam? it should have originally equipped when u bought them...unless u take both beam HID
happy new year..no prob

 

[TitanRev]

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Kenny, if you said white halogen bulb is illegal but in JPJ website it says that it's legal...??? What's true and what's not???:hmmmm: Really confusing here....

Yeehau, you are from Seremban?? Never saw your car wan? What do you drive?

 

[Maxx]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

supposed police cannot saman for the exhaust n light rite?
coz its under jpj.
wrong?

 

[baby_jap_wawa]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

this is a good question..
but as far as i know..
police will ask u for duit kopi..
if can't, then maybe they'll saman u for 'membahayakan pengguna jalan raya yg lain'..

jst my 2cents.. :)

 

[huakenny]

Re: How do we know if we modified our car LEGALLY?

supposed police cannot saman for the exhaust n light rite?
coz its under jpj.
wrong?

they got the saman book wat....sure can saman u...

if u dare to talk cock wit them, they wil just talk cock wit u too wit a saman