honda : d series vs b series

[Ashyie_Ferio]

just a quick question.
d series engine not as good as b series engine ar?
sifus, ur thoughts?:hmmmm:

 

[EGNINE]

just a quick question.
d series engine not as good as b series engine ar?
sifus, ur thoughts?:hmmmm:

quick answer: D series is better hehehe

 

[arrowhead]

turbochargeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[Ashyie_Ferio]

really are?
didnt know.
thot b series was better. u all use b16.
another question,
if i wan to use knn mushroom filter, need change exhaust also ke?
or wud stock exhaust be enough?

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quick answer: D series is better hehehe

why d is better? care to explain?:hmmmm:

 

[arrowhead]

if u plan to go NA, b series of course will give u better results. there are also alot of b series performance parts out there.

d series isnt popular here. therefore, not many aftermarket parts around. and without'em, its difficult to build a responsive d-series...

if u wanna use knn mushroom filter, its not necessary to change exhaust pipings. however, if u have unlimited budget, of course air filter + intake + throttle body + extractor + proper size exhaust piping would give u best results...

 

[Ashyie_Ferio]

if u plan to go NA, b series of course will give u better results. there are also alot of b series performance parts out there.

d series isnt popular here. therefore, not many aftermarket parts around. and without'em, its difficult to build a responsive d-series...

if u wanna use knn mushroom filter, its not necessary to change exhaust pipings. however, if u have unlimited budget, of course air filter + intake + throttle body + extractor + proper size exhaust piping would give u best results...

what do you mean by NA eh?
never quite fully understood that.

 

[EGNINE]

no la im just joking la..of coz b series is better...for me bseries is like benchmark for NA engine..Naturally aspirated which use atmospheric pressure for air to be pulled in the combustion chamber not like charged engine like supercharge or turbocharge which use compressor to force the air to the cylinder

 

[shah5755]

go for b series bro.....feel the vtec kick in first
after bored playing NA then go for b20b turbocharge

 

[budakkampungaje]

Better go B series or K series.....example..

D16A..CIVIC FERIO LEVII(EK5) 98
Displacement, cc 1590
Engine model D16A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 120 ps (88.26 kw) / 6400 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 14.7 kg*m (144.16 N*m) / 5000 rpm
Power density 9.42
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder SOHC16 valve
Engine information HYPER 16-VALVE horizontal ranging belt driving
Fuel system Electronic fuel injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 9.4
Bore, mm 75
Stroke, mm 90
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 6.8

B16A..CIVIC FERIO Si(EK4)..98

Displacement, cc 1595
Engine model B16A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 170 ps (125.04 kw) / 7800 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 16.0 kg*m (156.91 N*m) / 7300 rpm
Power density 6.65
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information VTEC horizontal ranging belt driving
Fuel system Electronic fuel injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded premium gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 10.4
Bore, mm 81
Stroke, mm 77.4
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 7.2

B16B...

Displacement, cc 1595
Engine model B16B
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 185 ps (136.07 kw) / 8200 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 16.3 kg*m (159.85 N*m) / 7500 rpm
Power density 5.62
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information VTEC horizontal ranging belt driving spec.R
Fuel system Electronic fuel injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded premium gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 10.8
Bore, mm 81
Stroke, mm 77.4
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 7.1
Fuel consumption at 60 km/h, l/100km 4.9

B18B non v tec

Displacement, cc 1834
Engine model B18B
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 140 ps (102.97 kw) / 6300 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 17.4 kg*m (170.64 N*m) / 5200 rpm
Power density 7.86
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information Horizontal ranging belt driving
Fuel system Electronic fuel injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 9.2
Bore, mm 81
Stroke, mm 89
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 7

B18C typeR

Displacement, cc 1797
Engine model B18C
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 200 ps (147.10 kw) / 8000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 19.0 kg*m (186.33 N*m) / 6200 rpm
Power density 5.6
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information VTEC horizontal ranging belt driving spec.R
Fuel system Electronic fuel injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded premium gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 11.1
Bore, mm 81
Stroke, mm 87.2
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 7.8
Fuel consumption at 60 km/h, l/100km 4.7

K20a non v tec

Displacement, cc 1998
Engine model K20A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 160 ps (117.68 kw) / 6500 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 19.5 kg*m (191.23 N*m) / 4000 rpm
Power density 7.31
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information Horizontal ranging chain drive
Fuel system Electrically controlled gasoline injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) Yes
Compression ratio 9.8
Bore, mm 86
Stroke, mm 86
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 6.7

K20A I VTEC

Displacement, cc 1998
Engine model K20A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 220 ps (161.81 kw) / 8000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 21.0 kg*m (205.94 N*m) / 7000 rpm
Power density 5.36
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information Horizontal ranging chain drive I VTEC
Fuel system Electrically controlled gasoline injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded premium gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) Yes
Compression ratio 11.5
Bore, mm 86
Stroke, mm 86
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 8

ZC engine..

Displacement, cc 1590
Engine model ZC
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 130 ps (95.62 kw) / 6800 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 14.7 kg*m (144.16 N*m) / 5700 rpm
Power density 6.92
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information Horizontal ranging belt driving
Fuel system Electronic fuel injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 9.5
Bore, mm 75
Stroke, mm 90
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 6.5

 

[arrowhead]

k20a is the best.

 

[affiq]

if the cost isnt an issue for u...go for K lah...

 

[Ashyie_Ferio]

of coz i got cost issue. student ma.
haha.
d16z9 no vtech ka?

 

[budakkampungaje]

K20A has many spec

K20A spec from EP3 model same engine with DC5 but the HP is difrent

Displacement, cc 1998
Engine model K20A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 215 ps (158.13 kw) / 8000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 20.6 kg*m (202.02 N*m) / 7000 rpm
Power density 5.53
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information Chain drivehorizontal ranging i-VTEC
Fuel system Electrically controlled gasoline injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded premium gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) Yes
Compression ratio 11.5
Bore, mm 86
Stroke, mm 86
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 8

K20A using on ACCORD CL series..

Displacement, cc 1998
Engine model K20A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 155 ps (114.00 kw) / 6000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 19.2 kg*m (188.29 N*m) / 4500 rpm
Power density 8.84
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC
Engine information I-VTEC horizontal ranging chaindrive
Fuel system Electrically controlled gasoline injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) Yes
Compression ratio 9.8
Bore, mm 86
Stroke, mm 86
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 7.2

H series also quit good engine....

 

[arrowhead]

K on accord only 9.8 CR? apasal nie... hahaha

 

[budakkampungaje]

Another B series

B20a....

Displacement, cc 1958
Engine model B20A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 145 ps (106.65 kw) / 6000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 17.8 kg*m (174.56 N*m) / 4500 rpm
Power density 7.86
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information Horizontal ranging belt driving
Fuel system Electronic fuel injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 9.4
Bore, mm 81
Stroke, mm 95
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 8.3

B20b..

Displacement, cc 1972
Engine model B20B
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 150 ps (110.33 kw) / 6300 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 18.8 kg*m (184.37 N*m) / 4500 rpm
Power density 9.4
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information Horizontal ranging belt driving
Fuel system Electrically controlled gasoline injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 9.6
Bore, mm 84
Stroke, mm 89
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 7.8

 

[arrowhead]

good info bro. =)

 

[budakkampungaje]

Honda just not have the 'D' series 'n' B series they many series like 'G'series 'F'series 'H'series
'C'series 'J'series "K'series 'ZC'series

 

[Ashyie_Ferio]

although not the info i was looking for,
but good info.
:top:

but a diff question, anyone ever changed auto to manual before?
what kind of problems that comes after transmission change?

 

[budakkampungaje]

welcome...

 

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usually auto to manual, if done right, there wont be any problems. i believe there are a few problems which u may encounter, for starters, faulty gearbox.