Good Info: Car Tyre and Rims

[ixeo]

Bro, why not go to Tayaria at Setia Alam? He only charge me RM60 for both front tyres

Includes re-mounting the tyres?

 

[parakey]

Includes re-mounting the tyres?

Not sure what you mean by remounting. They place the tyre & rim onto the machine. After measuring, they make separate marks on the rim and tyre. Then align those marks and do the balancing.

 

[6UE5t]

Bro, why not go to Tayaria at Setia Alam? He only charge me RM60 for both front tyres

Kinda expensive though for just balancing 2 rims/tires.
I know this place btw.

 

[ixeo]

Not sure what you mean by remounting. They place the tyre & rim onto the machine. After measuring, they make separate marks on the rim and tyre. Then align those marks and do the balancing.

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-what-why-and-how-of-wheel-balancing-3234378

The solution is to measure both the wheel and tire, and then move the tire around on the wheel until the high spot of the tire matches the low spot of the wheel. This process is usually called “match mounting.” Most tires today have small dots on the sidewall to indicate the point on the tire that should match to the valve stem to get a decent match mount, Road force balancers do a much more precise job of this by measuring both the wheel and tire with rollers and then directing the operator to mark the points to be matched. The resulting assembly requires less weight to balance and spins straighter.

I think to fully exploit the capability of the road force balancer, you must actually DO the labor as well after the computer has given you the data.

 

[parakey]

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-what-why-and-how-of-wheel-balancing-3234378



I think to fully exploit the capability of the road force balancer, you must actually DO the labor as well after the computer has given you the data.

Yes, that's what I mean by making separate marks on the tyre & aligning them. After initial measurements by the machine, they mark those 2 separate spots; one on the the tyre & the other on the rim. Then deflate the tyre so that it may be manually turned till both marks are aligned.

 

[ixeo]

Yes, that's what I mean by making separate marks on the tyre & aligning them. After initial measurements by the machine, they mark those 2 separate spots; one on the the tyre & the other on the rim. Then deflate the tyre so that it may be manually turned till both marks are aligned.

This is the Setia Alam one? Okay cool man. Know where to go now.

On my boat, 2 times out of 3 also need to do on-wheel balancing. So I don’t mind paying more if it’s perfect the first time with road force.

And Man the lead weights stuck on my rims really like the whole row.

 

[parakey]

This was the shop which I visited > https://www.google.com.my/maps/plac...!8m2!3d3.096552!4d101.445716?hl=en&authuser=0

 

[vr2turbo]

This is the Setia Alam one? Okay cool man. Know where to go now.

On my boat, 2 times out of 3 also need to do on-wheel balancing. So I don’t mind paying more if it’s perfect the first time with road force.

And Man the lead weights stuck on my rims really like the whole row.

If using a lot of weights, your tyre shop is just lazy to deflate and shift the tyres round the rims. With the force machine it calculates for you making it easier only, but at my tyre shop if weights a lot they shift the tyres 180 degree from the rims and re-balance again. They do this at no extra cost since it is still in the balancing cost......lol

 

[vr2turbo]

Not sure what you mean by remounting. They place the tyre & rim onto the machine. After measuring, they make separate marks on the rim and tyre. Then align those marks and do the balancing.

Remounting is to remove the tyres from the rims and fit it back in, but from your explanation, they just deflate and shift the tyre around the rims only...

 

[ixeo]

If using a lot of weights, your tyre shop is just lazy to deflate and shift the tyres round the rims. With the force machine it calculates for you making it easier only, but at my tyre shop if weights a lot they shift the tyres 180 degree from the rims and re-balance again. They do this at no extra cost since it is still in the balancing cost......lol

How would they know where to mark and shift? I thought only road force balances can do that. Think I need to watch the hunter video again.

I’ve never seen normal balancing where they deflate and rotate the Tyre on the wheel. Not even the ss14 shop you recommended.

 

[vr2turbo]

How would they know where to mark and shift? I thought only road force balances can do that. Think I need to watch the hunter video again.

I’ve never seen normal balancing where they deflate and rotate the Tyre on the wheel. Not even the ss14 shop you recommended.

When the weights are a lot more than 80gms, means the tyre and rim have combine weight on one side, they just mark the tyre where the valve is and rotate 180 degrees. So far it has worked bringing the weights down. If not mistaken only once I saw that fail, and tyre shop remove the tyres and change to another. They mention tyre fault and will send back to manufacturer for further checking......lol

 

[parakey]

Remounting is to remove the tyres from the rims and fit it back in, but from your explanation, they just deflate and shift the tyre around the rims only...

Why is there a need to completely remove the tyre from the rim?

 

[vr2turbo]

Why is there a need to completely remove the tyre from the rim?

No need for balancing procedure, just explaining remounting.....lol

For balancing just need to de-bead tyre from the rim edge then and shift the tyres around the rims before inflating back....