Cefiro A32 Gearbox Problem - Slow Engage

[ctk22]

Hi all...

My Cefiro A32 30GV lately having some gearbox issues. Previously, when push the stick to D, gear will engage immediately but lately it wont. Sometimes it'll take 2~3 seconds to engage (move) and during engage, there's a loud "kong" sound from gearbox/engine.

I have learnt that whenever the engine is cold, the problem will be there. So, normally i push to 2, after engaged gear and moving for say 10m or so, then only switch back to D.

So.. sifus, does this mean that the gearbox is time for an overhaul? or is it some other minor problems or sensors that causing these problem?

Anyone done overhaul gearbox b4? How much is the cost? Will it be better if just get a used gearbox from the junk yard?

Opnions and feedback appreciated!!

 

[polaris]

My previous gearbox same problem with u, my foreman mentioned that my gearbox is not in good condition, then bought 2nd hand gearbox from fren finally.

 

[funguy]

I face the same before but the reason is due to the automatic transmission fluid is not sufficient. Check if the level is correct?

 

[seizai]

hv u try check wat is d error code from ecu?

 

[ctk22]

hi polaris,
How much did u spend for the replacement of gearbox? Is it just "plug and play"?

Hi funguy,
Since the car only in my hand recently (company car), therefore i dont know the prev history. But i do noticed gear oil leakage, which i solved last week... So, i suspect the gear oil actually ran dry b4, and caused this permanent damage.

Hi Seizai,
Hav not tried the ecu reader. Possible to get anything from there?

Bump: Another problem recently...
The idling is not stable, ie the engine supposed to be smooth and steady during idling, but sometimes it'll "shiver" and shatter slightly, causing some minor vibration onto the body. Happened only recently. Anything to do with the sensors or perhaps the spark plugs?

Thanx!

Bump: Another problem recently...
The idling is not stable, ie the engine supposed to be smooth and steady during idling, but sometimes it'll "shiver" and shatter slightly, causing some minor vibration onto the body. Happened only recently. Anything to do with the sensors or perhaps the spark plugs?

Thanx!

 

[seizai]

ohh... problem coming one by one... seem like previous user didn't take care of it

 

[polaris]

hi polaris,
How much did u spend for the replacement of gearbox? Is it just "plug and play"?

Just plug & play only, i bought gearbox for RM600 with my own then sent it to foreman for installation cost abt RM700++ including oils..etc..

 

[weikee]

most important its to use original nissan Matic-D auto oil, any other normal oils will shorten the lifespan if your g.box. I have not use toyota or honda auto oils, but its best to stick with nissan oils.

Also, check your engine and g.box mount.

My friend drove his fatty for 400kkm, auto oil always use original and change very 20kkm, no problem.

 

[sb3]

hi polaris,
How much did u spend for the replacement of gearbox? Is it just "plug and play"?

Hi funguy,
Since the car only in my hand recently (company car), therefore i dont know the prev history. But i do noticed gear oil leakage, which i solved last week... So, i suspect the gear oil actually ran dry b4, and caused this permanent damage.

Hi Seizai,
Hav not tried the ecu reader. Possible to get anything from there?

Bump: Another problem recently...
The idling is not stable, ie the engine supposed to be smooth and steady during idling, but sometimes it'll "shiver" and shatter slightly, causing some minor vibration onto the body. Happened only recently. Anything to do with the sensors or perhaps the spark plugs?

Thanx!

Bump: Another problem recently...
The idling is not stable, ie the engine supposed to be smooth and steady during idling, but sometimes it'll "shiver" and shatter slightly, causing some minor vibration onto the body. Happened only recently. Anything to do with the sensors or perhaps the spark plugs?

Thanx!

Haiyah its a classic vq problem , heard this problem b4 a hundred times on this site, so far no accurate solution yet:- try to check the im gaskets, throttle position sensor, maf , air filter rubber hose, ignition coil plugs,injectors, etc . Dont get too hasty on changing those items . Make sure b4 changing.

As for the AT, i suggest u change to a secondhand unit(kedai potong). Repairing ur at will not last long. And don't touch recond units.

If u r getting 'potong unit' try to get thye same cc to avoid gremlins later.

 

[seizai]

wonder will it happen to mine not :hmmmm:

 

[stephen]

how many litres af ATF do you guys put in when you change your oil? when we say 'adequate' how much is enough? do you do cold reading or hot

 

[weikee]

about 4L when only change oil, about 5L when change the auto filter, and 8L when you take out the g.box and empty the torque converter.

 

[sb3]

wonder will it happen to mine not :hmmmm:

Seizai , manual gearbox r 'Macho man' , hence i dont think there is such problem. ATs r more prone to problems like 'pretty woman ' leh, you have to take good care of it,hehehe...

Bump:

how many litres af ATF do you guys put in when you change your oil? when we say 'adequate' how much is enough? do you do cold reading or hot

Yeah ineadequate ATF will fry ur gb.

 

[seizai]

about 4L when only change oil, about 5L when change the auto filter, and 8L when you take out the g.box and empty the torque converter.

mt gearbox also use 4L++

 

[weikee]

soli, me only a humble fatty driver not a mechanic.

MT common problem will be bounce gear, hard engage, slip clutch

Bump: soli, me only a humble fatty driver not a mechanic.

MT common problem will be bounce gear, hard engage, slip clutch

 

[sb3]

soli, me only a humble fatty driver not a mechanic.

MT common problem will be bounce gear, hard engage, slip clutch

Bump: soli, me only a humble fatty driver not a mechanic.

MT common problem will be bounce gear, hard engage, slip clutch

Yeah, it happens. But Mt problem is not as frequent as the AT problem.

Secondhand AT gearbox problem = 1 - 3years (problem starts to occur)

Secondhand MT problem = 5 - 10 years. (problems starts to occur.)

But I suppose , generally Nissan gearboxes r more reliable than some of the Japanese, European and local makes gearboxes. But regular oil change and maintenance of the gearbox is vital also.
During start up , I usually slot from D to 1 pause for every 2 second and back . So far no problems yet . Touch wood!, hehehe..

 

[ctk22]

hmm... seems like a lot of diagnose to be done to the engine vibration issue...

went to a "seemed knowledgeable" mechanic, he's telling me to ignore the AT slow engage first and use it until a few more gear oil change, and maybe it'll get better... He said he has another A32 having similar problem b4 but now considered minimised if not solved.

I'd like to ask, how much engine oil u guys pour into the engine during normal change oil service? Previously there's one mechanic recommend 6 litres but yesterday i changed with less than 5 liters already showed H on the indicator...

 

[arun2121]

Mine 4Litre...Castrol magnatec.

Bump: Have been using 4 Litre for the last 4 years..

 

[sb3]

hmm... seems like a lot of diagnose to be done to the engine vibration issue...

went to a "seemed knowledgeable" mechanic, he's telling me to ignore the AT slow engage first and use it until a few more gear oil change, and maybe it'll get better... He said he has another A32 having similar problem b4 but now considered minimised if not solved.

I'd like to ask, how much engine oil u guys pour into the engine during normal change oil service? Previously there's one mechanic recommend 6 litres but yesterday i changed with less than 5 liters already showed H on the indicator...

4 1/2 LITRES.:proud:

 

[polaris]

hmm... seems like a lot of diagnose to be done to the engine vibration issue...

went to a "seemed knowledgeable" mechanic, he's telling me to ignore the AT slow engage first and use it until a few more gear oil change, and maybe it'll get better... He said he has another A32 having similar problem b4 but now considered minimised if not solved.

I'd like to ask, how much engine oil u guys pour into the engine during normal change oil service? Previously there's one mechanic recommend 6 litres but yesterday i changed with less than 5 liters already showed H on the indicator...

6 litres and 4 litres is much different leh, mine one also 4 litres ++.................