Can 4G93 SOHC win Satria NEO

amad108..

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what kind of question is this? are we talking stock condition?

if stock, i can tell u.. 4g93 will win. 1.8 definitely win over 1.6 yeah
at top speed. no replacement for displacement. thats a fact.

if both modded, go to track and setel la.. how to know on forum??:banghead:
hehe.. he got a point there... if not just use software to know the engine potential..
 

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i do not think a bigger cc engine is a better one... a 6a12 on a Perdana is juat about the same as 93P Na on wira/satria/putra chasis on a highway... a starlet have a small displament engine.. but due to its agile n light weight.. it still flies in short sprint than most other cars, but tops out faster... over all.. its about total balance as well..
 

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i do not think a bigger cc engine is a better one... a 6a12 on a Perdana is juat about the same as 93P Na on wira/satria/putra chasis on a highway... a starlet have a small displament engine.. but due to its agile n light weight.. it still flies in short sprint than most other cars, but tops out faster... over all.. its about total balance as well..
Well said my friend.
 

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The basic rule when talk on top of paper.
Always power to weight ratio in the 1st place when talk on top of paper.
4G93 have a good torque while campro engine is new engine.
With the same power to weight ratio, no technology ( CPS, Hi-cam 0r turbo) to assist,
I will vote for 4G93.
1.8 is 1.8 no doubt have better power and torque to push to maximum compare with 1.6 engine.

Just my n00b opinion.:biggrin:
 

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last time i play2 with neo cps n putra.. neo cps perform almost like 4g93 putra (not the new sgti arr), they got similar type of power.. that from what i experience last time..
neo r3 i dunno how they perform la, never meet them at road yet.. hehe
totally not agree with u. do you know that stock 1st batch putra with MMC ecu can easily smoke any GTi (not sure about the almost 1900cc GTi R3). don't say about neo CPS. it'll will make the neo feel like kancil. senang cakap, it will tapau with kuah asing the Neo CPS.. :)
 
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so what kind of feedback you guys given to "Satria NEO CPS"?
"Satria NEO CPS 2009"

Performance =??
Exterior = ??
Interior = ??
Value Buy = ??
Fuel Consumption = ??
:driver:
 

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I just upgrade my wira to 4G93 SOHC M, is it faster then Setria Neo?

I hear from other say Setria Neo was faster then 4G93 SOHC, is it true?
don worry too much, my iswara 4g91 can easily cucuk any neo, they cant even go nowhere. there arent gonna be any threat to a 4g93, providing ur car is tuned well ler. i tune my car myself
 

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o..but i heard they said neo cps top speed very good lah can smoke 1.6 easily lar blah blah blah n i nvr tried any neo cps be4 so wanna c if any member got these experience d..
 

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neo body is heavy,even if it uses 4g93 it still lost to your lightweight milo tin wira body
 

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my neo 1.6(m) ...im true ...iswara 4g91 bad lah ....*lampu pun tak nak bagi ia nampak* i can do like that...confirm...

---------- Post added at 01:36 AM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 01:16 AM ----------

xtremeleo: u know wat is <handing by lotus> arr??? my neo is <handing by lotus>iswara chassis u know is frm???frm japan rubbish buang in malaysia use in ur car iswara...then iswara is use like sampah chassis...then class also biesa la...wait u buy the better abit car , came here chat lah...sry bro...apoligize!!!
 

HanZ85

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Yo bro talk like tat no good o u r hitting all the mitsubishi base design proton car leh...
 

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my neo 1.6(m) ...im true ...iswara 4g91 bad lah ....*lampu pun tak nak bagi ia nampak* i can do like that...confirm...

---------- Post added at 01:36 AM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 01:16 AM ----------

xtremeleo: u know wat is <handing by lotus> arr??? my neo is <handing by lotus>iswara chassis u know is frm???frm japan rubbish buang in malaysia use in ur car iswara...then iswara is use like sampah chassis...then class also biesa la...wait u buy the better abit car , came here chat lah...sry bro...apoligize!!!
Oh yes, Lotus means youre the king of FF's in handling right? :biggrin:

Eh you should know that the iswara's rear suspension, semi trailing arms is the same design as E30 bmw's lah, it may be outdated, but the design is still good. Unless you think BMW sucks then I cant convince you haha.

Dont lah start a flame war with that empty head of yours :rofl:. Lotus tuned suspension = grippy and soft. Its nothing much to boast about...
 
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lotus handing is not handing king...but is very response steering...becoz before i drive civic eg...tat powerful...but conering is no good...i pernah*buang* in sri damansara...then claim insuar...3 month later...i sell the car...then i buy neo...no mod any chassis in my car ...z change the toyo ...i can feel is very nice than the civic fd...i downhill in genting with my friend...tat is vios is sure kalah me...neo is 1.6 ...if powertrain just can fit with 1.6 ...dun want say with abve 2.0...my car maybe can if pickup with n/a 2.0 auto...
 

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Well...

Eg is a decade plus old, bushings old, the suspension also is much softer from a new Neo, and even if you did upgrade the suspension to coilovers/hilo whatever you call it, tires, alignment all play a part in handling.

Im sure the newer Neo will handle better than some Eg's around but consider the fact the Neo is new and the Eg well... old :). Suspension Design, driving style, all also are factors to put into consideration. I just popped in cause you were like saying how 'good' the iswara is. You should go learn about suspension design before making comments on whats good and bad haha, oh and old PORSCHES also used semi-trailing arms like the iswara last time :P. The iswara isnt thaaaat bad, its just the underdog haha. :rofl:
 

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aiyo...This topic come out la...
WTH!!!
If want to fight, fight with same hp of car or same cc la...
If u guys want to know,do a test lorh...
 

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Just sharing..

Received my Gen 2 CPS.
Compare with my old junk Mivec, here is my observation :

- Power to weight ratio : Old junk is gain good power to weight ratio as 1.3 Satria chasis is super light !!

- Gear ratio : Mivec gear ratio is drive by 4.592 FD, while Gen2 CPS is set up with 4.302 FD. Have an impressive pick up on 1st and 2nd gear on Mivec, while CPS designed smooth pick up. Therefore, if u are talk about 0-100km/h , 0-400m test, still Mivec take advantages. However, Interm of top speed stability, GEN 2 will smooth mivec easily. ( Don't told me that how good is the suspension u are put in ur wira / Satria, after 160km/h, still floating ).

- Throttle respond : of coz is Mivec as drive by cable. However, new CPS have capable to acheive euro4 emission control as drive by wire.

- Stock set up on chasis : Gen 2 is giving me good impressive on handling and high speed stability. Thanks to the heavy and stiffer chasis design.

-FC : average from my old junk is 18 cent per KM while CPS is offer me with 10 cent per KM.

The conclusion after owned 90s technology engine vs post yr 2000 :

- Pick up : 90s engine will win as no emission control.

- Chasis design: post yr 2000 is focus on safety and stability. While 90s is mainly on power to weight ratio.

- FC : The latest engine u have, a good FC u get.

If u are look for good performance, u have to :

- pay for safety ( light weight chasis )
- pay for high speed stability


If u are look for safety and high speed stability, u have to :

- pay for pick up

If u are look for performance , safety and high speed stability, u have to :

- Look for Euro car like Golf GTI, Clio etc...

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