Bluebird U12 with GA16DE?

[deja vu]

Hi guys.

Just wondering. I find the U12 design quite nice but d only let down its the engine options of either a 1.8 (SR18Di or CA18?) or 2.0 (SR20DE) which has higher fc and road tax, s'more its more or less confirmed tat petrol will b up next yr).

Though tis sounds rather rediculous (i noe ppl would normally up-grade to higher cc or power engines), I was wondering if it is possible/wise to replace the 1.8 with a GA16DE from a halfcut Japan spec B14 (local B13 and B14 dun have d valve timing unit if not mistaken) since both have rather close outputs.

Below are the specifications for both SR18Di and GA16DE. (source: http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/nissan)

SR18Di
Displacement, cc: 1838
Engine model: SR18Di
Max.power (Net) kw(PS)/rpm: 110 ps (80.91 kw) / 6000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm: 15.3 kg*m (150.04 N*m) / 4000 rpm
Power density: 9.55
Engine type: Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Fuel system: NISSAN Ei (ECCS) electronic gasoline injection
Compression ratio: 9.5
Bore, mm: 82.5
Stroke, mm: 86
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km: 7.3
U12 chasis curb vehicle weight, kg: 1050

GA16DE
Displacement, cc: 1596
Engine model: GA16DE
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm: 120 ps (88.26 kw) / 6400 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm: 14.8 kg*m (145.14 N*m) / 4400 rpm
Power density: 8.83
Engine type: Water cooling serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Fuel system: NISSAN EGI (NISSAN ECCS)
Compression ratio: 9.9
Bore, mm: 76
Stroke, mm: 88
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km: 6.4
B14 chassis curb vehicle weight, kg: 1060

Hope all d sifus here can help. Thx

 

[Raja_Mongkut]

i think would be underpowered la.

u12 not light ok.. compared to b13

 

[babywolfz]

as raja mongkut says it seriously would be underpowered.. and thus causing a serious fuel comsuption cause when ur car is low in power we tend to step on it more.. making us use more fuel... my 2 kupang....

 

[Raja_Mongkut]

if u want fuel economy better swap in a CA18DS. this engine can be found stock on most u11 or u12 1.8L

 

[brutus]

you sure U12 1,050KG? i drive one with SR20DE converted. FC is in the region of 9.5 to 10.5L/100KM of mix mode driving and that is auto.
the original CA20 with auto also not too bad for town driving but for highway, the SR comes to life!

 

[brutus]

also do note the GA16 has a torque output much lower than the SR18. this would worsen the FC as compared with the 2 engines with everthing else being equal.

 

[deja vu]

ok. Thx for the info.

 

[deja vu]

I got another question.

Let say I get myself a U12. Would a CA18DS, CA18DE, CA18Di, SR18Di or SR18DE worth retaining/transplanting in terms of price, power n spare parts availability?

 

[brutus]

the only down side of U12 is the absorbers. other than than, it is easily to find the parts and running gear.