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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mADmAN" data-source="post: 1064602167" data-attributes="member: 4286">the Beaks bar on its own acts as a lower tie bar... to help strengthen the chassis... it doesnt replace anything...but the design is pretty weak... so ppl install it more for bling...but the bar + a subframe brace (eg ASR) becomes absolutely useless and just for adding weight as well as bling.. bcoz the subframe brace does a better job at strengthening the subframe than any other lower tie bar. and when it comes to ASR+beaks... u actually mount the beaks ON the ASR... rendering it useless other than bling.and just as an FYI... the subframe braces and beaks (as well as those bling lower control arms)... are made for hondas.. non honda=fake....actually most in the country is fake..very minimal original ones here coz the fakes are so cheap and works pretty decently for its true intended purpose.correct about the honda and the distributor although ppl can just order the thing onlinelighten? lower arm? with the beaks and subframe brace like ASR... lower arm is not involved...no lightening.. the thing is an add on.. not a replacement...unless ur talking about them Lower Control Arms.. yes, those are replacement and meant to lighten (beaks no LCA though)... although the weight difference is actually negligible.. another possible reason to install is the bushings on aftermarket arms may improve handling... BUT... ALOT of aftermarket brands of LCA have sucky bushings... even ori brand use shitty bushings... like my ori Blox... 6 months koyak... and this is generally happening with other users as well...so far the only recommended brand to get is Function7... and im talking ori...costing 1k+... and hardrace for bang for buck (both brands only have for honda) if improving handling is the concern, then replacing the stock bushings on stock LCAs would be more beneficial cost wise.. FYI, ori Skunk2 arms also has a reputation for sucky bushingsno its not for the anti roll bar... beaks is a lower tie bar.. thats it... the anti roll bar would be the subframe braces...such as the ASR....why need a brace? to prevent the subframe tearing when using thick anti roll bars.. so actually using the ASR without ARB is also pretty pointless.snapping? ive never seen a Beaks tie bar snap before... unless again, ur talking about the Lower Control Arms then yes... those that snapped are local brands like zerone and velocity and password AP and also the fake skunk2 etc... actually...fake skunk2 lasts better than the local brands LOL.my car has these.. except the Beaks... ori Blox LCA-got these coz i havent really done my research on LCAs... after buying only found out and thought dammit! hahahah....but ive replaced my bushings with custom Soft PU bushings from a forumer here. so ada guna jugak laaaaaaa hahahfake ASR subframe brace... got this coz i was running larger than stock ARB... stock is 16mm..was running 19mm Ultra Racing (which is actually still ok), then now on 23mm ARB which can tear my subframe out....so my install of these actually got function oso la...hahaha</blockquote>

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