AVANT GARDE valeraine comp set USER !!

[shinchan]

I've got mine.. Have you ? :P

Finish revamping my setup...

Avant Garde - hmm... overall i think the tonality is great... love the tweets.. it's nice.. but hard to get staging right... cant seems to find the singer... it feels more like the singer is very high ... no depth on the stage.. not enough deep... hmm..
will try to play around with my tweeter position ...

 

[menghua84]

i got mine too... overall is great man.. yup the tweets is real nice.. mayb i'll contact gary when i'm in kl to get a proper tuning with the comp set.. since i duno much about it.. hehe

 

[munwai]

Guys, can oso post up the rest of ur setup as well? So that we can know the overall setup :) Cos overall tonality and stuff is also dependant on all the other stuff as well...

anyway, this is my current setup:
Cheapo JVC MP3 CD HU KD-S785
Valeraines, modded Xover, (lowered the bandpass to 80Hz)
Sony XM-504X amp for Valeraines
Peerless XLS 12"
Blaupunkt PA2150 amp for the sub

all in a '95 Iswara 1.3 sedan

Problems I face:
1) Not enough midbass
2) Hard to achieve proper staging

For the midbass, here are the few things I needed to do:
1) Mod the Xover (done, but apparently not necessary actually)
2) Redo my Peerless enclosure (the enclosure is leaking)
3) Put MDF rings for my mids (now is directly mounted on door panel)
4) Change my weak Sony amp (need to whack the mids with more power, see how first)
5) Change my sub amp (need more power to control the sub properly, see how first)
6) Soundproof my front doors (unlikely to do, due to certain reasons)

For staging, you need some advice from Gary or other sifu on how to position ur tweeters to get it right...mine is about halfway there...hehe

 

[shinchan]

my setup

avant garde powered by 50x4 PG amp
peerless XLS powered by PYLE 400 bridged
subbox is 1cu ft using 1" wood

comp set mounted with mdf wood too..
front door soundproof...

HU Pioneer 4550

 

[munwai]

fuhh...PG amp...should be good stuff!!!

 

[GRexer]

shinchan, u got your system revamped over at Megasound if not mistaken, rite? Including all the mountings and soundproof.

 

[shinchan]

grexer: yeap :) they did a good job for me..

and just got my valeraine tuned by gary... and it sounded much better ~
LOVELY ~ gonna stick to it for a while...

 

[5soul]

U upgrade the HU to clarion 24bit thing then ur component will be SUPER LOVELY.. hehehe trust me :D

 

[shinchan]

5soul big poison... MUAHAHA....

i wan 935 !!!!!

 

[edgar_raphael]

Yea, I recently upgraded to 24bit HU and it sounds much better than before.

As mentioned, it lack of Midbass, and most people who audit my car said so.

Tweeters were marvelous i must say, everyone said that too, but getting the stagging right is pretty hard, I am also halfway there, last time, the stage was pretty low, around dashboard surface area, i dont know why but after lots and lots of trials and error in re-locating the tweeter position finally much better know, but still more to go.

One thing i notice is, the set is good and had the potential for sound quality, honestly, but if played too loud (SPL) the tweeters started clipping.

 

[munwai]

5soul is trying to push his clarion venom...hehe...even Gary ask me to get clarion if i change HU!!! VENOMM!!! LOL...

 

[shinchan]

yalo... his HU price very tempting !! hope nobody will rush for it..

5soul you wait for me !! i will sure buy ur HU !! :P

 

[shinchan]

for the midbass part , try to increase the gain level of ur amp..
it does help alot... and try not to get bias by the comments.. its a 5' mid bass thus it will have a 5' mid bass quality.. taking a 6' compared to a 5' is definately not fair...

to me, avant garde is really a good product worth mentioning.. well tats of course when the promotion price is there :P
now it's marketing at 1.1k, so they will face a much more competition already...
nevertheless, for a comp set (promotion price) nothing will beat avant garde...

 

[munwai]

yea, actually, if the sub is good, and got good amp to control it, it will blend well with the component and u will get some decent midbass and bass upfront...i got it halfway there....but need to redo my sub enclosure...will report the results after i take a trip to somewhere near Terminal 3 as welll...kekekek

anyway, yea, for best performance, need a good amp to whack the mids for better midbass...

i was thinking of just connecting 2 channels (non bridge) of my sony for the tweeters, and my blaupunkt whack the mids at 2x150w...then look for a nice monoblock for the peerless...good idea? :P hehehe

 

[5soul]

Munwai.. very good idea.. i second that.

Sinchan.. will wait for you lah.. just hope that no one come put cash on the table with unresistable price. But actually i'm putting down the idea of selling it already, maybe just reserve it for u :D

 

[shinchan]

waa sure boh ?!
if like that i confirm makan ping pong biskut for 2 months !!!

so i can pay u :P
:lol:

 

[shinchan]

duno the mid can withstand such a power anot munwai..

i think maximum the mid can go is 100rms ?
my opinion only though :P

still.. feeding the tweets at 50rms sounds good.. i think anything above 50 will blow it .. hahah

anyway consult gary and see what's his recommendation.. maybe he will ask u to save up not to buy the amp but upgrade the active cross to burbrown chip !! (which he says cost +- 4-500)
and he claims will increase performance overall...

hey why not we make a avant garde tt ah ? :P so we can share share and see who's setup sounds nicer?

 

[munwai]

i heard the BurrBrown Xover upgrade liao....hehehe....i temporarily exchanged my xover with the BB Xover....SWEET!

but honestly, it got difference, but its not really apparent, because the weakpoint is in my system...meaning, i need to upgrade my own amps, system FIRST before i can get the full advantage out of the BB upgrade...so the money to buy the BB upgrade, i should use to kautim my own stuff first...

anyway, can lar, Gary did say i can use my blaupunkt...onli that, just be careful with the gains first lor..hahahaha...

currently, with my tweets and mids on my Sony 4ch..i think the sound abit sharp on the tweets, so my HU i have to lower the treble abit...

argh, 5soul, i din check the forum for some time, i missed ur T3-2600!!!!! if available again, let me know ya!!!!

 

[5soul]

Hehe.. i tot is should be the other way round.. buy first then eat ping pong bisuit.. hehehe

Munwai, will update u if available again.. that one too fast. I posted price update just for a while and that guy terus confirm booking.. :P

 

[edgar_raphael]

i heard about the BB but what does it do and how is the performance be improved?