anyone using nitrous in daily driven car here?

[Waiora_ProTuner]

nope...its legal...i don't see any illegal on it..

maybe the tank installation need approval..but its not combustible gas...
pressure i'm not sure..don't think its very high pressure..

 

[ken yeang]

Any tuner bro out there to verify that NOS installation to a stock car is legal in the eye of the law?

Illegal or legal question, can we say LPG and NOS setup is similar? If course, the HP gain from NOS is tremendous compared to the weedy LPG..

 

[stupidcar]

nope...its legal...i don't see any illegal on it..

maybe the tank installation need approval..but its not combustible gas...
pressure i'm not sure..don't think its very high pressure..

It's it highly flammable, no?

 

[D7zul]

Nitrous oxide is a non flammable gas

Read here Nitrous oxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It provides more oxygen to d engine thus making it capable to burn more fuel & make more power

I think it's legal coz d 'bahan bakar' is still petrol..

NGV need to register coz different 'bahan bakar' already

 

[vr2turbo]

I meant for the price of NOS kit installation, not including refills.

Means in the long run will be expensive.....

 

[6UE5t]

Means in the long run will be expensive.....

Yes long run will be expensive if you use it a frequently.

 

[vr2turbo]

Yes long run will be expensive if you use it a frequently.

Got sure to use......

 

[Izso]

nos is the cheapest form of force induction...
its only good for high hp gain...for the price..

dont compare with reconditioned turbo or supercharge..

starting from RM3000 you can get wet kit...30hp up to 100hp...
if you consider very low boost for many occasion it would be expensive...
refill normally RM180-200...but if you rent the mother tank it would cost around RM60-80 per refill...still expensive..

with 50 shot you could get around 4 minutes of boost...

with wide-open-throttle switch, window switch, afr monitoring, dual solenoid, it should be safe..
the only problem is very high torque..because the shot does not proportional to rpm..

some race team use nitrous to test their engine strength..increase shot until it fail...very easy and instant power gain...

Uh... NOS is force induction meh?

Dude, it's not force induction related at all.

Nitrous oxide is a non flammable gas

Read here Nitrous oxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It provides more oxygen to d engine thus making it capable to burn more fuel & make more power

I think it's legal coz d 'bahan bakar' is still petrol..

It's not legal. Getting caught with it will probably land you a fine but they can't do anything more than that (like ask you go inspection).

Anyway - to the thread starter : I have a friend who ran his modded NA Wira 1.6 with NOS. According to him it was the biggest mistake of his life. You'll constantly get tempted to pretty the 'happy button' and the addiction is worse than a smoker going cold turkey. Unlike Turbo/SC cars, you'll get used to the power eventually. But with NOS it's instant gratification with a push of a button. Until you have to refill the can, which is about RM280 per refill, and in the case of my friend - it was a weekly refill. Lekat kerusi feel is very tempting.

In the end he took out the set and now it's with another friend of mine in his Accord. I don't know if he kept it there or not but that was his daily drive. Oh and btw, the NOS did havoc to my friends Wira internals. Pistons were burnt crispy on the top side and the piston ring wear was terrible. It really kills the internals and halves or quarters the life span of your engine.

Anyway, lesson learnt is if you're gonna spend money installing a NOS kit for your daily drive and have shitloads of money hiding under your bed, go ahead! Install it! Instant gratification!

If you don't have shitloads of money, suggest you spend it on a FI kit or getting a bigger turbo for bigger kicks.

 

[D7zul]

Uh... NOS is force induction meh?

Dude, it's not force induction related at all.




It's not legal. Getting caught with it will probably land you a fine but they can't do anything more than that (like ask you go inspection).

Anyway - to the thread starter : I have a friend who ran his modded NA Wira 1.6 with NOS. According to him it was the biggest mistake of his life. You'll constantly get tempted to pretty the 'happy button' and the addiction is worse than a smoker going cold turkey. Unlike Turbo/SC cars, you'll get used to the power eventually. But with NOS it's instant gratification with a push of a button. Until you have to refill the can, which is about RM280 per refill, and in the case of my friend - it was a weekly refill. Lekat kerusi feel is very tempting.

In the end he took out the set and now it's with another friend of mine in his Accord. I don't know if he kept it there or not but that was his daily drive. Oh and btw, the NOS did havoc to my friends Wira internals. Pistons were burnt crispy on the top side and the piston ring wear was terrible. It really kills the internals and halves or quarters the life span of your engine.

Anyway, lesson learnt is if you're gonna spend money installing a NOS kit for your daily drive and have shitloads of money hiding under your bed, go ahead! Install it! Instant gratification!

If you don't have shitloads of money, suggest you spend it on a FI kit or getting a bigger turbo for bigger kicks.

told ya its expensive

and yes, it's a type force induction.. NOS provide more oxygen to d engine.. same like turbo & sc.. but different method..

Turbo : Mechanically compress air using exhaust gas

Supercharge : Mechanically compress air using belt

Nitrous oxide system : Chemically compress air using its chemical properties

and u need forged internals to use any of d above.. no excuses.. or else..

Gudluck

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oh.. about d legal matter..

ANY MODIFICATION OF ANY KIND TO A STOCK CAR IS ILLEGAL.. (that's include a open pod air filter)

unless u can sweet talk ur way out with d JPJ officers

Gudluck

 

[6UE5t]

told ya its expensive

and yes, it's a type force induction.. NOS provide more oxygen to d engine.. same like turbo & sc.. but different method..

Turbo : Mechanically compress air using exhaust gas

Supercharge : Mechanically compress air using belt

Nitrous oxide system : Chemically compress air using its chemical properties

and u need forged internals to use any of d above.. no excuses.. or else..

Gudluck

---------- Post added at 10:47 AM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 10:40 AM ----------

oh.. about d legal matter..

ANY MODIFICATION OF ANY KIND TO A STOCK CAR IS ILLEGAL.. (that's include a open pod air filter)

unless u can sweet talk ur way out with d JPJ officers

Gudluck

Yes, NOS is chemical forced induction, also nicknamed turbo in a bottle.
Btw about using the forged internals, wouldn't it depend an how much power boost you're putting into the engine? If relatively low (maybe say 30% power increase or so), then can still use stock internals, no? CMIIW though coz I'm very newbie on forced induction.

As for the legality, if say you install such bolt-on kit (turbo/SC/NOS) then afterwards you want to sell-off the car, would it pass puspakom inspection? Or you need to demod it first?

 

[D7zul]

Yes, NOS is chemical forced induction, also nicknamed turbo in a bottle.
Btw about using the forged internals, wouldn't it depend an how much power boost you're putting into the engine? If relatively low (maybe say 30% power increase or so), then can still use stock internals, no? CMIIW though coz I'm very newbie on forced induction.

As for the legality, if say you install such bolt-on kit (turbo/SC/NOS) then afterwards you want to sell-off the car, would it pass puspakom inspection? Or you need to demod it first?

I wouldn't say NOS is a low boost setup.. Once u got a lot of oxygen in d engine, ur ECU will detect it tru oxygen sensor in ur exhaust & it will maximise fuel injected in ur engine..

Usually NA use a wet system meaning the NOS system itself has another set of fuel injector to support a surge of oxygen inside d engine to make sure d engine won't have a lean AFR

Furthermore, usually NA engine has a high compression ratio thus making it unsuitable for NOS

I can talk about this all night long.. But i got to sleep too

Long story short, if u r thinking of getting a NOS.. Forged internals n turbocharged ur engine 1st

Don't repeat other people mistake.. Search d net.. Lots of information out there

Gudluck

 

[peterj]

izzo, your fren must be using nos with more then 50hp increment.....i will be using 35hp, the lowest fyi.... and should not always on the button,sabar je la even when kena potong by kancil when i speed at 170kmh today

and again all bro tqvm for your sharing, and again i need to say i kinda boring with turbo..lol ... pull is of course addictive but just feel like retiring and do some really silent killer (even now my car silent macam stock car and stock exterior also)... and the nitrous kit i put should be 35hp and maybe most of the time, used as car show material only