alfa 147 2.0 or neo CPS

[bb1-man]

Alfa goes faster up the hill, and down straight to workshop.

 

[teo1957]

wah.. THAT easy to overheat ar?

Not overheat bro, but fluctuates.

It's like your stock temp meter, and your Defi temp meter.

Stock = start, move up, up, up, then stick to the middle. Like not moving at all.

Defi = Moving 80, jam 88, then fan switched on back to 80 again...

Another thing is, lack of fan. Malaysia very hot country, I think need one fan for radiator, one for condenser. Cannot share. Like Gen2, if in jam, like aircond going hotter and hotter. Temp okay, but aircond hot.

 

[zane_al]

Alfa goes faster up the hill, and down straight to workshop.

Yep...keep the tow number handy, just in case.

 

[rkbella33]

Yep...keep the tow number handy, just in case.

Speaking from experience or someone you know with crappily maintained Alfa? Just hate it when people just freely quote things as the world is a free place. I have had 4 Alfas ran them hard, maintained them well and didnt bite my back off compared to my other Contis like Volvos. They are definitely little more expensive to maintain than japs or malaysian cars. But never broke on me ever...each had abt 200k kms ++ when sold exception one. The ownership/camaderie experience was great. I also own now a R3 so I can say I can be fair in my assesment.

The 147 2.0 cant compare to a Neo 1.6 in straight line la...so much power diff and need be fair to the Neo.unless you talking 1.6 Alfa that I get a gut feel Neo will tapau.In corners the CPS handles very well and pretty rorty.
147 2.0 with the Seles has advantage of better blipping and control of gears and top end power will easily out run the std CPS at the twisties as driver struggles with the shifts and balance.

But as it probably matched in handling and would say probably a modded CPS pushing abt 150hp with a good driver will run the 147 even steven if you can put up with the engine rpms.
But owning an Alfa just isnt abt comparos like this right?

 

[turbolover]

Your wife or GF will appreciate more if you drive and Alfa. Sometimes it's not what you like but what car that can carry the bickering toot without any fuss. Every lady loves a comfortable car so with an alfa you get the best of both worlds.

 

[DanzEterna]

from my point of view, the 147 is a great car, as teo mentioned, spare parts could be sourced from jalan ipoh, look for glory auto.....i get my parts from them too.....deal with the lady boss...u layan her she can give u discount haha.....

major parts like clutch plate, etc..i get it from tanlee Singapore....much more cheaper, bout 30-40%cheaper than in MY.

but u only need to bring your alfa to a specialist, many of them are located along NPE, jln klang lama......i could recommend Ah meng from Worldtech......he is a very reliable mech.....very friendly as well......clean & tidy workshop. price as usual are reasonable. or according on how difficult to get a spare parts, may need to be sourced from other halfcut shops.

but remember to take care of your water temp, always monitor it...if not ah cialat ooOoo...your head need to be regrind.......bare in mind timing belt needs to be changed @ 50k kms.....one of my fren's belt snapped @ 60k kms.....

other than that u no need to worry to much.....but u must have a passion for italian cars...not just buy for the sake of its looks & performance...later u will get headache & sell it off later on.

my suggestions...if you're ready to buy 1, get it from end user, never from those used cars. they know nuts bout it.....

Oo ya...get a manual tranny better....the tiptronic gearbox is not that reliable.....

for more, u could register & refer to this forum.
ItaliaAuto • Index page

 

[zane_al]

Everybody knows Alfas have the looks and the temperament to go with it.
And suprisingly modern Alfas feel quite like a Hyundai - in a subtle kind of way.

 

[maxcheca]

some ppl did not own alfa...But they can told other ppl that alfa this lar...that lar like they own alfa b4. (Juz like my other friend:stupid:)

 

[achelone]

when u drove an alfa....u will not want to drive any other car......i wonder how true that statement among alfa users....

 

[zane_al]

You want good reviews, read the catalogue.

 

[maxcheca]

when u drove an alfa....u will not want to drive any other car......i wonder how true that statement among alfa users....

different ppl..different oppinion.

and alfa have their own character

 

[nadziad]

for me 2.0 is unequal to compare with 1.6...for sure 2.0 can win
faster car always having good handing to compare....

 

[max327]

uphill battle. 147 la, you can't ignore the extra power from the 2liter engine

 

[bikerz]

for me 2.0 is unequal to compare with 1.6...for sure 2.0 can win
faster car always having good handing to compare....

true.. but weight is another factor right?

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

Well,if only with spirited drive i believe alfa got the edge to be faster and easier to drive considering that torqey 2.0 twinspark engine..but in fullspeed uphill i'm afraid conti engine got high risk of overheating..furthermore IF that alfa was auto...in this case neo got the upperhand where campro being rev happy and nimble..could be a tight battle..still alfa would be easier to drive fast..the rest wether win or not all depends alot on outside variable factor..my best opinion is u need to test drive both and chose what u like

 

[rkbella33]

Well,if only with spirited drive i believe alfa got the edge to be faster and easier to drive considering that torqey 2.0 twinspark engine..but in fullspeed uphill i'm afraid conti engine got high risk of overheating..furthermore IF that alfa was auto...in this case neo got the upperhand where campro being rev happy and nimble..could be a tight battle..still alfa would be easier to drive fast..the rest wether win or not all depends alot on outside variable factor..my best opinion is u need to test drive both and chose what u like

Nah won't overheat la..not a last century car dude! The ones that you see tersadai contis are typically older contis or with poor maintenance. If you replace the wear and tear items like lthe water pump, thermostat every 120k kms per recommendation which isn't too expensive. Most owners target their 3rd timing belt change to replace apprx every 120k. The alfas with the temperatures fluctuating are ones with a dying thermostat. Otherwise will be rock steady 80-90 range. the auto you refer to in Selespeed system is called city mode...it's a clutch based system much like the savvy amt in case you didn't know. In city mode it hold revs a lot harder based on throttle response. Driven in manual it's a joy. There is no auto torque converter based alfa with exception of the 156 2.5 v6 and the 164/168. Flick it to manual by engaging a lower or higher gear can be done manually pushing the lever and it's like a regular manual with super fast gear shift done by a robot. The gti runs on similar system but it's a faster dual clutch system.

 

[zane_al]

Yep..you can maintain Alfa well - do not exceed 5k for oil change...do not exceed 50k for timing belt etc etc. But there's nothing much you can do about the ECU, it may fail after 5 yrs - fortunately not as expensive to replace as some other makes.

 

[bikerz]

so, how efficient is the selespeed compared to DCT? i heard its alot crappier than bmw SMG

 

[maxcheca]

so, how efficient is the selespeed compared to DCT? i heard its alot crappier than bmw SMG

DCT is dual clutch transmissions...faster to engage gear.
selespeed is single clutch using actuator to engage gear...slower if compare to DCT.
both Selespeed & DCT also have to take care because its more advance than normal gearbox.
Crappier than bmw smg??I don think so.vise versa

 

[JoeChew]

to all the sifu here...
i plan to get myself a satria neo cps...is the power good from the engine?
i heard many of my friends said that the engine lack of power...is that true?

 

[DanzEterna]

to all the sifu here...
i plan to get myself a satria neo cps...is the power good from the engine?
i heard many of my friends said that the engine lack of power...is that true?

dun hear bout the dark side of neo cps, just go & try it out youself.
but so far ive heard good feedbacks bout the car.

 

[JoeChew]

dun hear bout the dark side of neo cps, just go & try it out youself.
but so far ive heard good feedbacks bout the car.

thx for ur help bro...:wavey:
i dint try the cps before maybe one day i go dealer n test drive one...haha...u also own a satria?
will the engine have problem?buy a 2nd hand n BOT...

 

[DanzEterna]

u used to own a satria GTI, & damn i missed it alot......
havent sat in a Satria neo before though....
i suggest dun BOT....better change to GSR, for that u may consult ehdrian...
he has a neo with GSR heart & fully moded.

 

[JoeChew]

the satria neo got many after market parts rite?
i saw a turbo neo myself,dun knw is BOT or GSR,the sound damn kao o...

 

[maxcheca]

better drop in GSR If U wan power.BOT only can boost 0.4bar only.if u wan to boost higher....u hav to mod internal parts like piston,conrod and so on...