Rear cross-diagonal/bar cage & engine cross bar

[Clutch_Shift_Accelerate]

Hi people. Anybody have any idea about removing the back seats of the 2013 Satria Neo R3 and installing a rear cross-diagonal/bar cage? Cost?
Is the weight somewhat the same or will it be heavier with the rear cross-diagonal/bar cage? Trying to maintain a 50-50 balance ratio between front and back end.
Anyone heard of Works Engineering doing such an installation or mind recommending another place?
Also ever heard of an engine cross bar installation for the 2013 Satria Neo R3? Cost?

Thank you very much in advance!! Seriously appreciate this place loads.

 

[DanzEterna]

its illegal on the road if u drive around without your rear seats. roll cage is illegal on the roads too.

 

[pwhyze]

Removing the rear seat is illegal?

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

Hi people. Anybody have any idea about removing the back seats of the 2013 Satria Neo R3 and installing a rear cross-diagonal/bar cage? Cost?
Is the weight somewhat the same or will it be heavier with the rear cross-diagonal/bar cage? Trying to maintain a 50-50 balance ratio between front and back end.
Anyone heard of Works Engineering doing such an installation or mind recommending another place?
Also ever heard of an engine cross bar installation for the 2013 Satria Neo R3? Cost?

Thank you very much in advance!! Seriously appreciate this place loads.

dont remove rear seat....neo already nose heavy with short buttock...


just add UR monkey bar+room bar+3point rear strut bar

 

[Clutch_Shift_Accelerate]

its illegal on the road if u drive around without your rear seats. roll cage is illegal on the roads too.

Seriously? Well that sucks. Though I thought its perfectly fine to remove the rear seats? A friend of mine has done it on his old car, didn't get in trouble for that as far I remember.

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dont remove rear seat....neo already nose heavy with short buttock...


just add UR monkey bar+room bar+3point rear strut bar

After adding the bars will it give the car a 50-50 balance (front-end)? Any idea what's the added weight? Cost estimation?

 

[elsm80]

Go corner weight your car.

Besides, do you really need to lighten the rear? I think some weight would be good for a car with such a short wheel base.

 

[DanzEterna]

Seriously? Well that sucks. Though I thought its perfectly fine to remove the rear seats? A friend of mine has done it on his old car, didn't get in trouble for that as far I remember.

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After adding the bars will it give the car a 50-50 balance (front-end)? Any idea what's the added weight? Cost estimation?

u can try 1st la, if u kena tahan by JPJ or police officer, say u send your rear seats for upholstery & it will take 3-4 days to be completed.

 

[Clutch_Shift_Accelerate]

Go corner weight your car.

Besides, do you really need to lighten the rear? I think some weight would be good for a car with such a short wheel base.

Hmm, any idea where I can do that? Sunway area?
I thought I could replace the rear seats with a rear cage. Figured the weight would be the same or even more after the replacement. Didn't know that rear cages were illegal for the road though, hehe.
So now i'm definately keeping the rear seats though will probably add the UR monkey bar+room bar+3point rear strut bar. I'm hoping that will balance the car out. Though i''l definately weight it and try to figure something out. Balancing this car isn't as easy as I though it would be, haha.

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u can try 1st la, if u kena tahan by JPJ or police officer, say u send your rear seats for upholstery & it will take 3-4 days to be completed.

Haha, that might actually just work. Though I'm probably gonna keep it there to maintain the weight since I can't put a rear cage in.

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

After adding the bars will it give the car a 50-50 balance (front-end)? Any idea what's the added weight? Cost estimation?

not much weight diff...only a few kilogram (less than 10kg in total)

cost not sure...u can use mudah.my as price references

 

[mADmAN]

why are u so obsessed with the weight distribution?

does the neo have a 50/50 weight distribution in the first place by the way?

i also assume ur talking about this cage right?

if u are... there used to be a neo cps in the apartment where i used to live who drives this car daily with the cage... also entered SNF. and if i remember correctly... he still had his rear seats with the cage installed.

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

why are u so obsessed with the weight distribution?

does the neo have a 50/50 weight distribution in the first place by the way?

i also assume ur talking about this cage right?

if u are... there used to be a neo cps in the apartment where i used to live who drives this car daily with the cage... also entered SNF. and if i remember correctly... he still had his rear seats with the cage installed.

its either satria neo clubsport (which is full road legal)


or a SNF racer that enter in road car category which is require half-cage and rear seats still attached....

 

[mADmAN]

its either satria neo clubsport (which is full road legal)


or a SNF racer that enter in road car category which is require half-cage and rear seats still attached....

if ur talking about the neo i mentioned... those times he entered SNF was before the roll cage ruling appeared actually :P

 

[Clutch_Shift_Accelerate]

why are u so obsessed with the weight distribution?

does the neo have a 50/50 weight distribution in the first place by the way?

i also assume ur talking about this cage right?





if u are... there used to be a neo cps in the apartment where i used to live who drives this car daily with the cage... also entered SNF. and if i remember correctly... he still had his rear seats with the cage installed.

Yeap that's sort of the one except the back has a diagonal cross rather than just one bar across.

Weight distribution of the Satria Neo isn't exactly 50-50. If it were, it would be better for the tyre wear. If there is too much weight in the front end, then the tyres burn out faster on a high speed run especially since the front tyres do more work (turning and drive) while the rear just drags along.

I would actually prefer a rear-wheel drive car but can't afford a 1st hand one. Front tyres do the turning while the rear gives the drive. Not to mention you'd be able to drift easily.

 

[mADmAN]

so ur main concern is tire wear? i assume u wanna add weight to the rear to even out the load on the tires?

 

[TitanRev]

Move the battery to the rear boot and put it in the center in the rear boot just behind the rear seat.

 

[Clutch_Shift_Accelerate]

Move the battery to the rear boot and put it in the center in the rear boot just behind the rear seat.

Ok sounds like an awesome idea. Though where would I feed the wiring through? Will it be protruding through the side of the seats?

 

[4gbanger]

if ur talking about the neo i mentioned... those times he entered SNF was before the roll cage ruling appeared actually :P

i did enter SNF until rollcage is mandatory.. shit..

 

[stupidcar]

Can a car with that kind of layout really achieve 50/50. I doubt that.
Look at how the engine sits in front of the front suspension.
And then u look at Honda S2000, which is 50/50.
I know its a different category but just compare the way the engine sits.
It sits way back behind of the front suspension. Its like it sucked in to the cabin haha

 

[4gbanger]

yup, your rite. same goes to rx7 or rx8.. seems like the engine is sitting almost near middle of front n rear tyre...