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Planning to get Alza. Any comment form the existing owner. Is it worth it? Other option in the same class?
Planning to get Alza. Any comment form the existing owner. Is it worth it? Other option in the same class?
Alza opinion
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buying a car is always is a million dollar question ....
but here is few guideline you can use while thinking which new car to buy...
1.Price, buy cars you can afford and can maintain it
2.Find the exact car you want. Not the car you think you want
3.Compare similar models for safety, performance, fuel economy and so on..
4.Test drive all of them.. not just running around the showroom area, but longer distance. check out the acceleration, cabin condition, surrounding movement and driving comfortability
5. Don't buy at your first sight. You can get surprise discount if you shop around.. you wont know how hard those sales person willing to go low down just to please you...
speaking of alza.. its pretty much a class by itself..if u do need any technical reference just ask...
but here is few guideline you can use while thinking which new car to buy...
1.Price, buy cars you can afford and can maintain it
2.Find the exact car you want. Not the car you think you want
3.Compare similar models for safety, performance, fuel economy and so on..
4.Test drive all of them.. not just running around the showroom area, but longer distance. check out the acceleration, cabin condition, surrounding movement and driving comfortability
5. Don't buy at your first sight. You can get surprise discount if you shop around.. you wont know how hard those sales person willing to go low down just to please you...
speaking of alza.. its pretty much a class by itself..if u do need any technical reference just ask...
I'm wondering about this car as well cuz initially I was interested to get one for my family as this is the cheapest MPV and it seems quite decent BUT I heard that it has a lot of quality problems! Like uneven/bad paint quality, uneven antirust treatment, hot rear seats due to exhaust muffler, noisy aircon, poor sound insulation & very noisy roof when raining, noisy/very dusty brakes, etc.
So can anyone confirm these problems if they are true and if they have been rectified by Perodua or are still persisting?
Really appreciate any input, thanks.
So can anyone confirm these problems if they are true and if they have been rectified by Perodua or are still persisting?
Really appreciate any input, thanks.
- Apr 19, 2009
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dusty brakes is normal for every car, the most u can do is change to anti-dust pad, noisy roof is common for any car, u can sound proof it at accesories shop, some shop they provide this service..usually local car has this problem, hot rear seat is common on perodua, but..for this amount of money, its consider reasonable.., we have to remember, wat u pay is wat u get.
the alza is rated as top selling MPV in malaysia(for now) and a few of my frens have just bought it. FC is good(full tank of RM 75 ron 95 can bring u about 650++km), power is ok(120kmh at about 3.5k rpm and max is about 6500? not so sure...everytime car pool i'll be sleeping at the back but i've been told max speed is about 160-170kmh...
ride comfort is much better than innova and definitely avanza. quite spacey but aircon may be a problem since no aircon ducts at the rear.the blower is strong enough to blow all the way to the 3rd row if sacrifice one of the middle ducts n blow behind.
NVH is average. on par with avanza and myvi or even the pesona. maybe its the standard tyres supplied cos a lot of the noise seems to come from the tyres. engine can get drony at hi speeds but no need to tune radio loudness up. speaking of tyres, suspect the tyres that come standard cause some vibration esp at speeds above 120kmh. i think they come with silverstones since some tyre guys say the standard tyres more suited for town driving n not hi speed.
paint quality is quite ok...not on par with merc quality of course.plastic fittings inside quite bad tho. a lot of gaps that u can fit your finger nail thru but so far in the 3 alzas i've ridden in, no rattling or such. speaking of rattling...the rear drum brakes do judder n send vibrations thruout the car...like somebody putting a piece of metal onto the rims but after 1st service, rectified. front brakes also seem to judder slightly when doing long braking(maybe ABS?) but doesnt feel like ABS needed to be engaged at such braking levels. dont dare ask owners to test since they still treat their alzas like princess. doors when slam shut do sound like the going to drop off...maybe cos of their size but expected from something so affordable.
still...best if you go test drive it yourself. dont drive it around the lot n decide. ask them to let you drive on normal and a little hiway. then go sit in the 3rd row n ask the salesman to drive u back to showroom...a lot of ppl who bought the avanza didnt test out ride conditions in the 3rd row n now rarely use since it is soooooo bumpy.
+points
price
FC
can fit 7ppl quite confrotably
bench type seats in front(need i say good for the missus to hug hug?)
projector type lights and even without HID has very good light throw
-points
sort of noisy (but could be the tyres)
not as smooth as a sedan
no middle aircon duct
if u push the middle seats too far forward, getting in is a hassle cos the gap between B pillar n front of mid seats very near
dodgy brakes(it stops...just very vibratingly :) )
hope this helps. when test driving, try out the brakes for yourself.
ride comfort is much better than innova and definitely avanza. quite spacey but aircon may be a problem since no aircon ducts at the rear.the blower is strong enough to blow all the way to the 3rd row if sacrifice one of the middle ducts n blow behind.
NVH is average. on par with avanza and myvi or even the pesona. maybe its the standard tyres supplied cos a lot of the noise seems to come from the tyres. engine can get drony at hi speeds but no need to tune radio loudness up. speaking of tyres, suspect the tyres that come standard cause some vibration esp at speeds above 120kmh. i think they come with silverstones since some tyre guys say the standard tyres more suited for town driving n not hi speed.
paint quality is quite ok...not on par with merc quality of course.plastic fittings inside quite bad tho. a lot of gaps that u can fit your finger nail thru but so far in the 3 alzas i've ridden in, no rattling or such. speaking of rattling...the rear drum brakes do judder n send vibrations thruout the car...like somebody putting a piece of metal onto the rims but after 1st service, rectified. front brakes also seem to judder slightly when doing long braking(maybe ABS?) but doesnt feel like ABS needed to be engaged at such braking levels. dont dare ask owners to test since they still treat their alzas like princess. doors when slam shut do sound like the going to drop off...maybe cos of their size but expected from something so affordable.
still...best if you go test drive it yourself. dont drive it around the lot n decide. ask them to let you drive on normal and a little hiway. then go sit in the 3rd row n ask the salesman to drive u back to showroom...a lot of ppl who bought the avanza didnt test out ride conditions in the 3rd row n now rarely use since it is soooooo bumpy.
+points
price
FC
can fit 7ppl quite confrotably
bench type seats in front(need i say good for the missus to hug hug?)
projector type lights and even without HID has very good light throw
-points
sort of noisy (but could be the tyres)
not as smooth as a sedan
no middle aircon duct
if u push the middle seats too far forward, getting in is a hassle cos the gap between B pillar n front of mid seats very near
dodgy brakes(it stops...just very vibratingly :) )
hope this helps. when test driving, try out the brakes for yourself.
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hmm.. i quite like it although it doesn't look like a ferrari or lamboghini, very affordable and comfortable, interior design not bad.., very japanese look., power not too bad if wif 4 passengers, brake not so sure, good headroom..good for 6 footer.
Maybe will get 1 sooner, recommend EZI model which means the 1 with full safety features, safety comes 1st..overall a decent mini mpv
Maybe will get 1 sooner, recommend EZI model which means the 1 with full safety features, safety comes 1st..overall a decent mini mpv
I've test driven one before but only for a short distance. Initial impression is not bad, but brakes seem too soft and test drive units might have been fixed up to hide quality issues.
the 1st batched might have issues. dont worry. i guess all the problems have been solved by perodua R&D dept. overall good car......
even my wife told me to sell my perdana & get alza or exora
even my wife told me to sell my perdana & get alza or exora
I read that even units up to Nov/Dec 2010 were still having those quality issues. Not sure about 2011 batch, but now I'm loosing interest with Alza and more interested to buy the Livina instead which should be a much safer option.the 1st batched might have issues. dont worry. i guess all the problems have been solved by perodua R&D dept. overall good car......
even my wife told me to sell my perdana & get alza or exora
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livina has rear aircond too..and its way more powerful and better handling..the 1.6 model shud be another 25-30k on top of the alza.
Hmm not that much, cuz the price list for the 1.6AT is around 88K and they have some discounts now for a few thousand, so maybe can get one for under 85k which is around 15-20k more than Alza Premium/Advance AT.
The engine is more powerful/torquey but the car is also almost 100kg heavier than Alza.
I have an Alza in the family and have tested it going to Penang and back. This is what I wanna say :
1. Don't get the super expensive apa-pun-ada model. The reasonably kitted spec RM70k version is quite sufficient. ABS, airbags and all.
2. The bloody irritating b-pillar thing takes getting used to. But isn't really a big problem for people with small feet.
3. The central aircon duct needs to be facing the roof for the center and rear people to have any aircon. But if positioned facing upwards, the far back will complain about being too cold so yes - the P2 claims of aircon efficiency and air flow is true.
4. The claims about the Alza driving like a car is rubbish. It feels like an MPV, drives like one too. And it's a 1.5, so if you carry 6 average sized adults, it'll struggle in terms of performance and bag space (what space? :P)
5. Wind noise is actually good minimal and NVH is quite good for a car this price range. In fact I'm tempted to ICE this Alza because of it's quiet cabin. Only thing is I'd change the stock Sime tyres cuz they're bloody noisy and useless.
6. Rain handling is quite decent considering the weight of the Alza and very slanted front windscreen. Roof noise is apparent but not annoying. Generally it feels quite safe in the Alza but I wouldn't test the ABS brakes with a fully loaded Alza. It's heavier than the Avanza (even though same chassis) and those skinny tyres won't do miracles.
7. High speed running (anything more than 130km/h is considered fast for me) will introduce wind noise after about 140km/h. With 6 passangers very hard to reach 160km/h. Auto GB is quite smooth though, no jerkiness and overall comfy.
8. FC is about 11km/h which is not bad for a car this size. Highway I got 12km/h fully loaded.
9. I think it's called ISOFIX but it has great locking thingies for baby car seats. Only a family man would buy an Alza so this is a point to consider yes?
For this kinda price, it's impossible to get this kinda space. So if you're in the market for a cheap and spacy car, this is probably a good buy. In fact nothing in the price range will come close other than the Proton Exora and personally I hate that car. Have it in the family too and apart from it's endless headroom I like nothing else about the Exora.
Conclusion :
Would I buy an Alza? Nah. I prefer Sedans with a gigantic boot.
Would I recommend it? Only if you can't afford anything more than 80k. If you can, get a Livina / Wish 2.0 / Caldina / Estima
1. Don't get the super expensive apa-pun-ada model. The reasonably kitted spec RM70k version is quite sufficient. ABS, airbags and all.
2. The bloody irritating b-pillar thing takes getting used to. But isn't really a big problem for people with small feet.
3. The central aircon duct needs to be facing the roof for the center and rear people to have any aircon. But if positioned facing upwards, the far back will complain about being too cold so yes - the P2 claims of aircon efficiency and air flow is true.
4. The claims about the Alza driving like a car is rubbish. It feels like an MPV, drives like one too. And it's a 1.5, so if you carry 6 average sized adults, it'll struggle in terms of performance and bag space (what space? :P)
5. Wind noise is actually good minimal and NVH is quite good for a car this price range. In fact I'm tempted to ICE this Alza because of it's quiet cabin. Only thing is I'd change the stock Sime tyres cuz they're bloody noisy and useless.
6. Rain handling is quite decent considering the weight of the Alza and very slanted front windscreen. Roof noise is apparent but not annoying. Generally it feels quite safe in the Alza but I wouldn't test the ABS brakes with a fully loaded Alza. It's heavier than the Avanza (even though same chassis) and those skinny tyres won't do miracles.
7. High speed running (anything more than 130km/h is considered fast for me) will introduce wind noise after about 140km/h. With 6 passangers very hard to reach 160km/h. Auto GB is quite smooth though, no jerkiness and overall comfy.
8. FC is about 11km/h which is not bad for a car this size. Highway I got 12km/h fully loaded.
9. I think it's called ISOFIX but it has great locking thingies for baby car seats. Only a family man would buy an Alza so this is a point to consider yes?
For this kinda price, it's impossible to get this kinda space. So if you're in the market for a cheap and spacy car, this is probably a good buy. In fact nothing in the price range will come close other than the Proton Exora and personally I hate that car. Have it in the family too and apart from it's endless headroom I like nothing else about the Exora.
Conclusion :
Would I buy an Alza? Nah. I prefer Sedans with a gigantic boot.
Would I recommend it? Only if you can't afford anything more than 80k. If you can, get a Livina / Wish 2.0 / Caldina / Estima
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alza car problem...Pity to own one.
1. Roof sound awful when it rain.
2. wind noise definately will be hear from the side mirror and once you bring it to SC they will tell you to leave a least 2 ~ 3 days for them to check and repair.
3. Paint problem. anti rust paint uneven at many part. even the body car paint have a lot of defect such as water mark, clear coat paint coating not even, and also scratch mark during car delivery. You think how good is the alza car? Even Perodua assist for repair but at last it will look like a repainted car even though it is a newly brought.
4. Seating fabric (EZi model) on the outlook may seem like a quality fabric but when u look under the seat the overall built and quality look suck. You can check this thing at the sales model.
5. for the engine a bit underpower when you over take a car even you cruising on 80~90km/h speed. that is without any passenger. F0r 110km/h cruise will hit about 2800~3000rpm.
6. Steering have sound when yo do the cornering on either left or right direction. According to the SC it is due to steering airbag part have some misalignment that cause the sound. Temporary it is fix but not sure when the sound will bounce back. According to the SC the steering cannot be exchange as it is not damage. Even though the sound exist they only can repair and repair.... How good is the Perodua R&D ... You own self think la. I not blame on the SC but i think the HQ of perodua not handling this issue well.
7. Interior have sound especially on the seating. sound like something already loose. Still not fixed that problem as sometime come out and sometime not.
8. Fuel consumption ... 350km/ rm 50 petrol (based on ron 95 rm1.90). consider ok for fuel consumption but if highly loaded may be gone a bit higher.
9. Handling... consider ride a bit better than a van. cornering need a bit extra precaution as handling is bit different compare with sedan. i sincere said exora handling is more better.
10. Service price... about rm130 for normal service.. if reach 20000km will need about rm350 for service. each 20000km will need rm350 (depend on the service requirement and customer requirement). Own self judge la on the service price compare with toyota, nissan , proton and etc.
11. Resale value... maybe a lot of drop as new car Perodua introduce each month for the alza have discount about 2 ~2.5K. We need to add up on this when calculating the resale value. I not sure what is the 2nd hand price for alza. If someone know the 2nd hand price for alza pls let me know.
12. Rear seat is useless. cannot sit for long time as you feel your leg began to cramp and back pain for long journey. for the rear seat heating problem i not sure as i not encounter cause i nobody sit there. If future i hear complaint i will post it here again.
All the above comment are based on my own experience for owning alza. If you want to buy need to think twice as i also regret buying this car as there is a lot of discount when purchase of this car. But what you get is a piece of junk which i not know can last for how long. Overall Myvi built quality is more better than Alza.
1. Roof sound awful when it rain.
2. wind noise definately will be hear from the side mirror and once you bring it to SC they will tell you to leave a least 2 ~ 3 days for them to check and repair.
3. Paint problem. anti rust paint uneven at many part. even the body car paint have a lot of defect such as water mark, clear coat paint coating not even, and also scratch mark during car delivery. You think how good is the alza car? Even Perodua assist for repair but at last it will look like a repainted car even though it is a newly brought.
4. Seating fabric (EZi model) on the outlook may seem like a quality fabric but when u look under the seat the overall built and quality look suck. You can check this thing at the sales model.
5. for the engine a bit underpower when you over take a car even you cruising on 80~90km/h speed. that is without any passenger. F0r 110km/h cruise will hit about 2800~3000rpm.
6. Steering have sound when yo do the cornering on either left or right direction. According to the SC it is due to steering airbag part have some misalignment that cause the sound. Temporary it is fix but not sure when the sound will bounce back. According to the SC the steering cannot be exchange as it is not damage. Even though the sound exist they only can repair and repair.... How good is the Perodua R&D ... You own self think la. I not blame on the SC but i think the HQ of perodua not handling this issue well.
7. Interior have sound especially on the seating. sound like something already loose. Still not fixed that problem as sometime come out and sometime not.
8. Fuel consumption ... 350km/ rm 50 petrol (based on ron 95 rm1.90). consider ok for fuel consumption but if highly loaded may be gone a bit higher.
9. Handling... consider ride a bit better than a van. cornering need a bit extra precaution as handling is bit different compare with sedan. i sincere said exora handling is more better.
10. Service price... about rm130 for normal service.. if reach 20000km will need about rm350 for service. each 20000km will need rm350 (depend on the service requirement and customer requirement). Own self judge la on the service price compare with toyota, nissan , proton and etc.
11. Resale value... maybe a lot of drop as new car Perodua introduce each month for the alza have discount about 2 ~2.5K. We need to add up on this when calculating the resale value. I not sure what is the 2nd hand price for alza. If someone know the 2nd hand price for alza pls let me know.
12. Rear seat is useless. cannot sit for long time as you feel your leg began to cramp and back pain for long journey. for the rear seat heating problem i not sure as i not encounter cause i nobody sit there. If future i hear complaint i will post it here again.
All the above comment are based on my own experience for owning alza. If you want to buy need to think twice as i also regret buying this car as there is a lot of discount when purchase of this car. But what you get is a piece of junk which i not know can last for how long. Overall Myvi built quality is more better than Alza.
2688, thx for the input. This just reconfirms that I've made the right decision not to buy Alza.
ok..
topspeed.170kmh....
roof insulator poor :(
dust in front brake :D
need to diy roof ...
fc save when drive around 80kmh ...night driving
wanna modified alza?exzos system,alloy crank pulley,drop in air filter k&n it is a fun car save petrol of course not perfect,need to do sound proofing but for me it is good anyone want alza alloy crank pulley?i got stock pm me brosss(looking foward to supercharging )
not too bad ... my bro in law jz bought an alza auto basic 3 weeks back...my initial experience driving this car is quite good..
speed - i dnt knw it is new so i didnt speed much...throttle response seems slow
roof rain sound - didnt get chance to drive in rain yet
dusty brakes - yes true but even my persona se had this problem till i change brake pads
the last row of seats - nt everyone can get in/out easily (only for small sized ppl)
aircon - it does cools faster but it may not be tht cool at the 2nd or 3rd row..it takes time
seat fabric looks good - but its cheap material i guess & the seats are very thin
sound proofing - quite good but the silverstone tyre is noisy
suspension - very good compared to other mpvs in my company like avanza/unser/innova
i feel its a good buy if you get the basic edition below 60K .
speed - i dnt knw it is new so i didnt speed much...throttle response seems slow
roof rain sound - didnt get chance to drive in rain yet
dusty brakes - yes true but even my persona se had this problem till i change brake pads
the last row of seats - nt everyone can get in/out easily (only for small sized ppl)
aircon - it does cools faster but it may not be tht cool at the 2nd or 3rd row..it takes time
seat fabric looks good - but its cheap material i guess & the seats are very thin
sound proofing - quite good but the silverstone tyre is noisy
suspension - very good compared to other mpvs in my company like avanza/unser/innova
i feel its a good buy if you get the basic edition below 60K .
i've owned one since last year and for me its a great buy. lucky for me none of the problems raised by the 1st batch buyer happen to my car.
about the sound proofing, its a bit of let down as the roof and door is not well insulated but, hey think about the price. it can easily fixed by installing a sound proofing material inside the roof and door. you'll noticed straight away the improvements.
so far, its a good buy for me a to take my family of 5 on a holiday..... :)
about the sound proofing, its a bit of let down as the roof and door is not well insulated but, hey think about the price. it can easily fixed by installing a sound proofing material inside the roof and door. you'll noticed straight away the improvements.
so far, its a good buy for me a to take my family of 5 on a holiday..... :)
I have been driving my Alza SXI for 3 months now and I have to say its a great car. Handles well, the ride is good and performance wise, I cannot complain. Its my 2nd car and I have a Lancer GT but I still enjoy my Alza very much. We get what we pay and the Azla is more than worth the price. Its a much better car than the Myvi for sure.
The thin seats are necessary so that the back can fold down FLAT, you cannot do that with seats that have nice bolsters la.
As for engine response, this car is no slouch, its great as a manual car. Also, let's be realistic, its a town car so it will not give you the response you get in something like a Megane 250 on extreme mode.
:)
The thin seats are necessary so that the back can fold down FLAT, you cannot do that with seats that have nice bolsters la.
As for engine response, this car is no slouch, its great as a manual car. Also, let's be realistic, its a town car so it will not give you the response you get in something like a Megane 250 on extreme mode.
:)
i've been thinking to buy an Alza also..
but after reading this..
anyhow, i'm getting a free car from my dad.. no complains..
nothing is better than FREE STUFF!!!
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