Upgrade For Perdana 4g63T RVR

[fighter1869]

Hello to all..im new to this forum...would like to make new frenz and share knowledge...

I have a Perdana Rvr 4g63T Auto..completely stock..and i never use turbo engine bfore..
So what can i do to upgrade power abit ? just some basic mods would do..do want to change turbine or wat..any suggestion ?

 

[DanzEterna]

1.standalone - haltech
2. piggyback - emanage blue
3. wastegate
4. SAFC
5. RSM
6. AVCR

 

[fighter1869]

DanzEterna...im not suprised you're the first to reply my post..seen your nick in most of the threads..thx anyway


Hmm..i was thinking bout E-manage blue..but can i up the boost using E-manage ? or do i need to buy boost controller...thinking to up lil bit only..lets say from 0.6 to 0.7 sumthing like dat...

Still new to turbo ..sikit2 tau la

 

[MKMD428]

get an engine oil cooler kit and ATF cooler. that would be my recommendation.

then u can start playing with boost controller, engine management system and fueling system.

 

[fighter1869]

Thanks..the Rvr Halfcut i bought comes together with the ATF cooler..so i guess im ok to do minor upgrades...but still confuse bout wastegate,boost controller..do i need to change or not..i just want to add lil bit more basic things bfore final tuning with e manage ..and thats it

 

[MKMD428]

oh..sorry..my mistake for not knowing that u already hv ATF cooler.
your aim was to have a bit power. if i were u..i would do the basic things first.

by anymeans..Turbocharged engine is a really hot...

Cool the incoming air - Compressing air raises its temperature. However, you would like to have the coolest air possible in the cylinder because the hotter the air is, the less it will expand when combustion takes place. this why the purpose of intercooler for turbocharged and supercharged are made for..

so having said that..

u can start by doing a cold air intake and upgrade your intercooler size (i'm assuming your are using OEM RVR intercooler) don't go to big.

Let air come in more easily - As a piston moves down in the intake stroke, air resistance can rob power from the engine. Some newer cars used polished intake manifolds to eliminate air resistance Bigger air filters can also improve air flow. its easier to say that porting and polished your engine head, intake manifold will help.

Let exhaust exit more easily - If the exhaust pipe is too small or the muffler has a lot of air resistance, this can cause back-pressure, which has the same effect. High-performance exhaust systems use headers, big tail pipes and free-flowing mufflers to eliminate back-pressure in the exhaust system.

those mention above are the basics. the engine management should be the last thing that u should add..after u are satisfied and have no other near future plans.. wont want to be tune and tune and tune again everytime u mod ur engine didn't u?

as for wastegate and boost controller..from my opinion those are not basics.

 

[kumar22mostwanted]

Thanks..the Rvr Halfcut i bought comes together with the ATF cooler..so i guess im ok to do minor upgrades...but still confuse bout wastegate,boost controller..do i need to change or not..i just want to add lil bit more basic things bfore final tuning with e manage ..and thats it

just go for the boost controller and emanage
the emanage cannot control the boost level
u will need a boost controller for this
and the emanage will ensure that u have sufficient fuel and an optimum air fuel ratio at the various boost levels
i think the rvr standard intercooler is quite small \
just get a front mounted evo 3 intercooler that should help with the temperatures :top:

 

[fighter1869]

Thanks Kumar...noted

Yeah Rvr intercooler is pretty small..maybe now i am thinking i should just do this

-Front Mount Evo3 IC
-Air Filter
-Exhaust piping
-Boost Controller
-E-manage

Just want to have a relax daily driving...hehe

 

[speed2horizon]

oh..sorry..my mistake for not knowing that u already hv ATF cooler.
your aim was to have a bit power. if i were u..i would do the basic things first.

by anymeans..Turbocharged engine is a really hot...

Cool the incoming air - Compressing air raises its temperature. However, you would like to have the coolest air possible in the cylinder because the hotter the air is, the less it will expand when combustion takes place. this why the purpose of intercooler for turbocharged and supercharged are made for..

so having said that..

Cooler air = denser air = more oxygen per volumetric. That's the whole idea.

u can start by doing a cold air intake and upgrade your intercooler size (i'm assuming your are using OEM RVR intercooler) don't go to big.

Yes... Good choice.

Let air come in more easily - As a piston moves down in the intake stroke, air resistance can rob power from the engine. Some newer cars used polished intake manifolds to eliminate air resistance Bigger air filters can also improve air flow. its easier to say that porting and polished your engine head, intake manifold will
Let exhaust exit more easily - If the exhaust pipe is too small or the muffler has a lot of air resistance, this can cause back-pressure, which has the same effect. High-performance exhaust systems use headers, big tail pipes and free-flowing mufflers to eliminate back-pressure in the exhaust system.

those mention above are the basics. the engine management should be the last thing that u should add..after u are satisfied and have no other near future plans.. wont want to be tune and tune and tune again everytime u mod ur engine didn't u?

I think the cost spent onthis can buy an E3 cylinder head with inlet manifold n header. Plug n play with ready outlet for future TD05 16G. No headache. No issue with imbalance port cause by workmanship.

Btw, I have a different opinion here. I think tuning is the heart of all mods. Air fuel n ignition is the key to avoid lean and knocks.

A stock untuned car and a tuned car already makes the difference.

as for wastegate and boost controller..from my opinion those are not basics.

Yes. They aren't basic. But it's also not something high-tech n complicated.
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just go for the boost controller and emanage
the emanage cannot control the boost level
u will need a boost controller for this
and the emanage will ensure that u have sufficient fuel and an optimum air fuel ratio at the various boost levels
i think the rvr standard intercooler is quite small \
just get a front mounted evo 3 intercooler that should help with the temperatures :top:

Emanage also helps in the ignitio. Timing.

DanzEterna...im not suprised you're the first to reply my post..seen your nick in most of the threads..thx anyway


Hmm..i was thinking bout E-manage blue..but can i up the boost using E-manage ? or do i need to buy boost controller...thinking to up lil bit only..lets say from 0.6 to 0.7 sumthing like dat...

Still new to turbo ..sikit2 tau la

 

[MKMD428]

Thanks Kumar...noted

Yeah Rvr intercooler is pretty small..maybe now i am thinking i should just do this

-Front Mount Evo3 IC
-Air Filter
-Exhaust piping
-Boost Controller
-E-manage

Just want to have a relax daily driving...hehe

decent choice. good luck friend.

 

[ruckboyz_85]

For the oil cooler, i think standard RVR engine installed with water cooled system..I dont have any idea which is much better, water cooled system or oil cooler or can use both at same time..hope someone with much experience will answer it..make sure your current fuel system is enough to support your engine when boosting.otherwise, your pistons will "berlubang"..install aftermarket AFRP first..then u can can start thinking to upgrade what the next..that my personal opinion..correct me if wrong

 

[rakesh_v6]

change to manual transmission :)

 

[MKMD428]

any updates?

 

[rakesh_v6]

bro the upgrade is depends on ur budget to be frank,u can pm me as am using 4g63 as well :)

 

[fighter1869]

Hi guys...sorry i've been away for a while..thanks for asking bout my car...anyway at the moment i have start doing the basics things first.. like Hks fIlter, Front Mount Intercooler piping, and Exhaust piping...using 2.5" as i follow the original rvr piping..thats all at the moment..after all that then only i will start thinking some other mods..depend on budget :)

Rakesh- Thanks bro...im really new to 4g63 .. good to have guide from you


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[rakesh_v6]

not problem bro,sharing is caring,yes as u said it depends on the budjet :)

 

[peterj]

Hi guys...sorry i've been away for a while..thanks for asking bout my car...anyway at the moment i have start doing the basics things first.. like Hks fIlter, Front Mount Intercooler piping, and Exhaust piping...using 2.5" as i follow the original rvr piping..thats all at the moment..after all that then only i will start thinking some other mods..depend on budget :)

Rakesh- Thanks bro...im really new to 4g63 .. good to have guide from you


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i share my experience here, bro, it is unsuitable to use the hks mushroom filter, i just change to k&n, hks seems dirty, cause my fren evo 3 using k&n open pod and the throttle body ,turbo inlet and turbine are all clean and clear, but mine with hks, even change sponge, my intake pipe sluggish so do my turbo inlet, that is y i choose k&n, after change the filter, i feels the air suction is superb,i can hear the air suck in loud with my high pitch turbine sound, hks feel nothing last time, btw, my hks is also genuine product,broke my pocket almost rm3++:stupid:

 

[tajulsans]

For the oil cooler, i think standard RVR engine installed with water cooled system..I dont have any idea which is much better, water cooled system or oil cooler or can use both at same time..hope someone with much experience will answer it..make sure your current fuel system is enough to support your engine when boosting.otherwise, your pistons will "berlubang"..install aftermarket AFRP first..then u can can start thinking to upgrade what the next..that my personal opinion..correct me if wrong

Aftermarket AFPR is not the 1st thing in the fuel system to upgrade.. varying the fuel system pressure is not the best way to tune AFR, even too high pressure will only make your fuel pump flow less than it should be which is not a gud thing. Upgrading to a higher flowing injector & fuel pump is the first thing u want to do to your fuel delivery system, and this is only even necessary when you are flowing significantly more air such as increasing boost to a very high level, bigger turbo, stroker etc..

 

[speed2horizon]

Aftermarket AFPR is not the 1st thing in the fuel system to upgrade.. varying the fuel system pressure is not the best way to tune AFR, even too high pressure will only make your fuel pump flow less than it should be which is not a gud thing. Upgrading to a higher flowing injector & fuel pump is the first thing u want to do to your fuel delivery system, and this is only even necessary when you are flowing significantly more air such as increasing boost to a very high level, bigger turbo, stroker etc..

After keeping quiet for so long... Finally, my friend has something to say... Just a resume of what u're saying.. Even then, u need a management to control the bigger injector... Could be rechip, piggyback, or standalone...

 

[eiril_77]

Depend for what u wanna to upgrade...
Cat-back exhaust system
Decat
Manual Boost Controller, Boost Gauge (optional)
Replace Spark Plugs and check Leads
K&N or Ralliart Panel Filter
Downpipes
Upgraded Intercooler
Replace Stock Blow Off Valve
Hard Piping kit
Fuel Pump such as Walbro or similar
Fuel Controller, Piggy Back or Full ECU
Fuel Pressure Regulator
Removal of MAF and change to MAP with compatible ECU's
Turbo Upgrade
Forged Internals
Larger Fuel Injectors

lets your experience foremen do it for u... it better.....
correct me if I'm wrong.....