prodigy said:
i actually didn't see how did he overtook rubens but schumi is no stranger to controversials. he's very well known to do some crazy ass manouvre that'll bump him up a position or even win him the title. in year 1995, the last race of the season, he actually "bumped" damon hill out of the race to win his second WDC. the marshalls ruled out any foul play but looking back at his manouvre, there was no way he could've overtook hill but they dismissed it as 'racing incident'. in 1997, again the last race of the season in jerez, he tried an overambitios manouvre which resulted in villeneuve nearly crashing out but villeneuve managed to continue and won the race and also the WDC. it was quite obvious that schumi made no intention to overtake but rather to crash JV out. he was stripped of his points that season.
i actually do think schumi is the best ever driver that have graced formula 1 but his unsportmanship at times just makes you think if he's a fair winner or not. guess there's always a dark side in everyone. however, sometimes u just got to look at the way he drives the car. he's driving skills is almost perfect. driving lines are great, car control absolutely perfect and he's got great leadership too. ferrari's success is attributed to schumi. its no surprise if ferrari are no longer competetive when schumi retires.
You made a number of mistakes in your post.
In 1994 (not 1995), Damon hit Schumacher when he was attempting to overtake in a corner, not vice versa. Schumacher had an off and banged the wall slightly before that collision happened. Some argued that Schumacher's car was damaged. But at the end of the day, Schumacher still has that corner, and Damon tried to overtake from the inside, and they collided. Both retired. No one knows the truth except for Schumacher himself, so it remains as one of the most controversial incident in F1.
In 1997, again, Villeneuve tried to overtake Schumacher from the inside, not vice versa. But this time it's a little different. Schumacher tried to ram Villeneuve off the track when Villeneuve tried to overtake from the inside, but Schumacher only managed to hit the sidepod. Schumacher retired. Schumacher admited that his move was intentional after the race, and ultimately, he was disqualified from the championship with all his points stripped off.
So how can see how both of these incidents can be even related to the Monaco overtaking attempt, when both are them were blocking attempts. Maybe you can relate this to the Australia's incident, but definitely not this.
butthead: What makes you think that Senna or Hakkinen is better than Schumacher? Senna was from a different era, and the only championship they were fighting was in 1994 before that ultimate tragedy happened at Imola. Schumacher won the first 2 races, while Senna retired both. So I can't see how can you even compare both of them, let alone saying Senna is better than Schumacher. No comparison should be made in the first place. Both are fantastic drivers, but who is better, no one will ever know.
As for Hakkinen, what makes you think he's better than Schumacher, or even vice versa? During their most competitive championship years when both are having winning cars, Hakkinen won the championship in 1998 and 1999, and Schumacher won in 2000, and 2001 before Hakkinen retired. Stats wise, both are similar. But they were never in the same car to evaluate their true skills. So how did you end up with such biased conclusion is beyond me.
If you have seen Murray Walker's Greatest F1 driver, Hakkinen is not even in the Top 10 list, while both Senna and Schumacher was in the Top 10. Then again Murray's opinion can be biased, but if there's one opinion I would listen to, it has to be his. With such huge experience in F1, he began commentating since the beginning of F1 in 1950.
