Robbery & Kidnap: What Will You Do?

[vr2turbo]

dont go to ATM at night, if urgent go to petrol station ones or get a guy/husband/bf to
accompany females.

Ah! my ex colleague went with husband, husband wait in car just outside bank, while wife went in to withdraw. Husband kena held up at knife point, wait for wife to come out, ask her for the money and left.....so how??

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if that were my family members, definately will ram them with my car.

If family or friends will sure help, but for most of us if we do not know them usually we will try to help but would not be in direct confrontation with the robbers......

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Just happened to my colleague last week in Klang. She was visiting bf and have just parked her car and off her engine. Same time a car stop right in front blocking her way. As her car when off engine it unlocks, she was lucky to be alert and lock the car back. 2 guys one left side and one on right side trying to open her car door, so she started to use her car horn, so they jump back into their car and left. Lucky they did not break the window, as for sure she will be hurt....some more newspaper report crime down......

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Just last week, attended fire fighting talk. Other then pepper spray, the small fire extinguisher (1kg) is also good for defense. Can be kept in the car. Can use for breaking window in case in accident and car door is jam. Can use in case of fire. Can use as defense in case under attack....

 

[ixeo]

Best self-defense weapon for either male/female, is our car key, hold one of it in between of our fingers while walking to our car.
Don't look down on it, it is so sharp that my friend tried slashing on water melon before, can totally slice that thing...

U will know how to use it

good pointer. thanks.

Ah! my ex colleague went with husband, husband wait in car just outside bank, while wife went in to withdraw. Husband kena held up at knife point, wait for wife to come out, ask her for the money and left.....so how??

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lock doors + security tint.



If family or friends will sure help, but for most of us if we do not know them usually we will try to help but would not be in direct confrontation with the robbers......

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Just happened to my colleague last week in Klang. She was visiting bf and have just parked her car and off her engine. Same time a car stop right in front blocking her way. As her car when off engine it unlocks, she was lucky to be alert and lock the car back. 2 guys one left side and one on right side trying to open her car door, so she started to use her car horn, so they jump back into their car and left. Lucky they did not break the window, as for sure she will be hurt....some more newspaper report crime down......

newspaper report crime down because police didn't file the case lah

attempted kidnap they say is robbery
robbery they say is theft
attempted robbery they say is misunderstand...

if kira like that sure crime down lor... Malaysia Boleh ma...

 

[vr2turbo]

good pointer. thanks.



newspaper report crime down because police didn't file the case lah

attempted kidnap they say is robbery
robbery they say is theft
attempted robbery they say is misunderstand...

if kira like that sure crime down lor... Malaysia Boleh ma...

Probably you kill a robber in your house and you will be prosecuted..........
Like the lady who chase, knock down and killed the snatch thief who snatch her hand bag case......

 

[DanzEterna]

Best self-defense weapon for either male/female, is our car key, hold one of it in between of our fingers while walking to our car.
Don't look down on it, it is so sharp that my friend tried slashing on water melon before, can totally slice that thing...

U will know how to use it

yes bro..wat u say its true..i always do that myself, there is a pen knife tied to my
car keys too.....my baby bag also got another knife, inside car also got knife haha...

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

yes bro..wat u say its true..i always do that myself, there is a pen knife tied to my
car keys too.....my baby bag also got another knife, inside car also got knife haha...

Yup, can be a deadly weapon, just a swing or just trust it to the eyes or throat when ur life is at stake...I only have a small scaled model Spanner with my car keys

 

[STEVE4161]

The main thing is don't panic.

 

[cvkit17]

The human mind is the most powerful tool. Sometimes we have to be prepared of what we would do if bla bla bla. And it's no harm to learn a few simple lessons of self defense. If you often imagine what you will do when u have a situation it actually helps you think better. And one more thing is that we must always remember that the other party is human too. Thus, we have to be optimistic when there's a chance to escape or to fight back. A healthy human mind would not want to harm people if possible. Same goes as robber or thief or rapist. If they want to harm us, they wont hold us at knife point. They'll just stab and rob. If dat's the case, then god bless us coz there's nth much we can actually do if we do not see it coming. But if they point a knife at you..chances are that you are able to escape or fight back coz they will get panic too when we scream/fight/run.

But of course...if they want $$ and if the $$ wont take ur life away...just give them la...our lives are more precious than those faggots. So if one day you ter-killed one, dont feel bad of yourself. Its just one less rotten object in this world.

 

[Izso]

Mace and whatever things you can think of are useless when the situation hits you.

You need to be programmed to do this and that when you come across the situation. So in reality you need to train to get out of trouble like this.

I've been in 2 situations already, one was a upfront robbery and the other was a smash window and grab.


Situation #1 : Robbery

This joker was a obvious newbie but he had the chopping knife and he just walked into my fathers shop declaring it was a robbery. I was in front and pretty much froze. My mind went blank and I couldn't think of anything at all at that time. All the pented up anger and frustration came only much later after that basturd left with that days earnings.

We had a hard bamboo pole, mace and all but ultimately when family is there you don't think of anything else other than getting that person out or you don't think of anything at all and go blank.


Situation #2 : Smash and grab

Tun Razak, 5pm traffic crawl. Dumbass mofo on a bike drove by and whacked my side glass. I was already in a very unstable frame of mind as I had a stare-down with another dumbass scooter who thought he'd kick my car and all. So the minute I saw the smashed window (I had security tint so it didn't shatter) I turned the car towards his direction and tried to run him over. I successfully did that but the minute I got down from the car, a whole bunch of other motorcyclists, one f*cking turd Waja driver all came down to support him and harass me. Mob mentality kicked in for these bunch of assholes who proceeded to smash my front windscreen and kick dents in my door. One bloke who was neutral asked me to just drive away and make a police report which is exactly what I did.

That sonnavabitch who tried to smash and grab was the martyr and literally everyone was supporting him. All those harassing me were of the same race too.

Lesson learnt? You can talk and say this and that, but nothing will ever happen the way you expect it to happen. Best thing is to learn to escape, resist the urge to have revenge or hurt the assholes and just walk away.

Kidnaps - Learn to resist and run away. What that marketeer did was very good, she made herself not worth the effort. Never give in.

Robbery - It's not worth fighting back. Just make sure you don't make yourself an easy target (look flashy) and don't keep everything in one place (IC + cards in one pocket, cash in wallet, everything else in another pocket) so if you do get robbed, it won't be too damaging.

Revenge can be achieved after a police report is made. Like in my case #2 I now have a report, which means I can extract names and addresses from JPJ with this report. There's plenty I can do with that like subscribe sh*tloads of porn to that address and person, order pizzas to that address and person, and other more serious things.

 

[vr2turbo]

Sorry to hear about your experiences above but is good info for us.
For case 2, probably the situation got bad, is they did not know he tried to smash your window first. Most saw it as you mow him down. Then they jump to conclusion especially because of race issue. If this happen in kampung area, you better not stop even.....

 

[cvkit17]

Sorry to hear about your experiences above but is good info for us.
For case 2, probably the situation got bad, is they did not know he tried to smash your window first. Most saw it as you mow him down. Then they jump to conclusion especially because of race issue. If this happen in kampung area, you better not stop even.....

Agree. Human always jump to conclusion early. That is why the world is a mess lol..

So we gotta be Prepared --> prevent --> precaution --> persistent (in saving own ass)

 

[vr2turbo]

Saving own ass is true, that is why earlier answer was if you know the person in trouble, will help, but if don't know can try to help only, like call police or something but not direct confrontation. There was a case in the papers when this guy help chase a snatch thief and got stab in return and died......

 

[Izso]

Sorry to hear about your experiences above but is good info for us.
For case 2, probably the situation got bad, is they did not know he tried to smash your window first. Most saw it as you mow him down. Then they jump to conclusion especially because of race issue. If this happen in kampung area, you better not stop even.....

The problem is the idiotic mob motorbikes forced me to stop with their idiotic motorbikes by stopped in front of me, kinda like egging me on to run THEM over (which I was highly tempted in doing).

The best thing is this basturds number plate is on the internet for the same offense, same road, same intent.

Why isn't the bloody police doing anything about this a$$hole? Two police reports of violence isn't enough for them to take action?

 

[ixeo]

Police in Malaysia is good at

1. Extracting duit kopi from the Rakyat - needless to say
2. Beating the rakyat's ass - got Bersih?
3. Manipulating statistics and reports - crime stats down yo!
4. Shooting people - every shootout reported the criminals are all dead
5. And recently, using C4 explosives - duh
6. Doing the biddings of ministers

Other than that I don't know what they are good for.

2 police reports of violence does not take precedence over motorcade for a Minister ok? More important to have 4 riders and 1 cop car to open the road for a Minister. You count how many Ministers we have and do the maths. Where got enough police?

Of course, this does not include the Sultan and Agung, as they are the rightful rulers and they should have motorcades. I don't see why Ministers who were put in office to serve us needs police riders to open the road for them so they can rush for dinner.

 

[vr2turbo]

The problem is the idiotic mob motorbikes forced me to stop with their idiotic motorbikes by stopped in front of me, kinda like egging me on to run THEM over (which I was highly tempted in doing).

The best thing is this basturds number plate is on the internet for the same offense, same road, same intent.

Why isn't the bloody police doing anything about this a$$hole? Two police reports of violence isn't enough for them to take action?

Probably they need someone to get hurt first before they really do something....
I remember one time when I had car accident and made report, the police taking the report mentioned no need to see accident place unless some one is injured....

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Of course, this does not include the Sultan and Agung, as they are the rightful rulers and they should have motorcades. I don't see why Ministers who were put in office to serve us needs police riders to open the road for them so they can rush for dinner.

Because bolihland......

 

[cvkit17]

The problem is the idiotic mob motorbikes forced me to stop with their idiotic motorbikes by stopped in front of me, kinda like egging me on to run THEM over (which I was highly tempted in doing).

The best thing is this basturds number plate is on the internet for the same offense, same road, same intent.

Why isn't the bloody police doing anything about this a$$hole? Two police reports of violence isn't enough for them to take action?

Probably the bastard is finding opportunity to extort money? If any1 hits him..then he can ask for $$$ which is getting common nowadays