Proton Waja FR

[faisal]

i tought for a car to compete in WRC, the have to go thru 'homologation' process (not sure bout the spelling), like having at least 1000 units of the same basic specification.

just like what happened to celica GT4 last time, they withdrew it during it glorious time because no such model available on the market and later they replace it with corolla.

but like proton pert wira 4wd, the model is considered a close cousin to mitsu lancer, so it share the homologation of lancer evo

any one can clear me on this homologation?

Your reffering to the old Group A where an exact model of 2500 must be produced to compete in Group A and N.

For The WRC regs it's slightly different .

To quote the FIA Article 255 -" A World Rally Car is a variant of a fixed model car, previously homologated in Group A and must therefore be assembled like a Group A vehicle."

In other words as long as manufacturer has a family of car, it can add turbo, 4wd and go WRC. Sounds simple but all the add ons must be homologated, powertrain, drivetrain, aero and so on.

 

[gary]

i tought for a car to compete in WRC, the have to go thru 'homologation' process (not sure bout the spelling), like having at least 1000 units of the same basic specification.

just like what happened to celica GT4 last time, they withdrew it during it glorious time because no such model available on the market and later they replace it with corolla.

but like proton pert wira 4wd, the model is considered a close cousin to mitsu lancer, so it share the homologation of lancer evo

any one can clear me on this homologation?

the celica gt4 ran under the GROUP A rules, which did require manufacturers to build road going versions of their cars.
Btw, toyota didnt withdraw under "Glorious" conditions. They got banned by FIA for cheating. After the ban, the corolla re-entered under the new WRCar rules, to encourage more manufacturers to enter, which is why we never saw a 4wd turbo corolla.

proton could get mitsu to homologate their evo as a proton pert because of the relationship between proton and mitsu. Of course, quite a bit of of money had to be paid to mitsu i'm sure. This allowed proton to get away without building the 2,500 prod. cars required for grp. A.

 

[Crash]

But Hyundai got Accent RX-S wooo :tongue: ...HUGE airscoop means got BIG turbine inside...huhuhuhu sure can do 0-100 in 5 seconds I'll bet my kucing kurap on it...

Yeah man. Power and looks. Damn I want one. Freaking awesome.

 

[Hawke]

no offense but i still think it would be more appropriate to call it an r3 nissan waja... :)

 

[faisal]

no offense but i still think it would be more appropriate to call it an r3 nissan waja... :)

You don't see the Yamaha-designed 2ZZ Toyota-engined Lotus Elise 111R being called a Lotus-Toyota-Yamaha do you??

The Waja FR was designed-engineered-built by RaceRallyResearch hence the unofficial name of R3 Waja. In the future the car will be known as Waja SSO in the vein of the Satria, Putra and Elise SSO vehicles.

 

[Khorne]

Or the Toyota Celica being called a Toyota-Yamaha-Celica GT4...
The thing I don't understand is why can't we all just be happy that R3 is here to do something for us car enthusiast especially Proton owners...

I'm happy and I don't even drive a Proton...

 

[Hawke]

i think r3 waja would suit it :)

limited to r3 only... :)

 

[Crash]

It's funny how people just constantly question, sometimes out of spite; and slag out of misinformation, envy, presumption; and accuse based on sentiments, and sometimes nothing.

In the end, we gain nothing. We discover nothing. We achieve nothing.

Oh f*ck it. Don't mind me.

Let's just find some other thing to bash!

 

[Hawke]

sometimes, ppl do ask questions to find out things... :lol:

 

[Crash]

Yes they do. Sometimes. Heh.

 

[prozac]

You don't see the Yamaha-designed 2ZZ Toyota-engined Lotus Elise 111R being called a Lotus-Toyota-Yamaha do you??

Or the Tomatus 111R.

 

[Crash]

Hahahahha

 

[Hawke]

actually, this was very enlightening to me. i onli know the names bar honda, and if u go by that, then proton shouldn't b there. it's about separate legal entities...

 

[faisal]

actually, this was very enlightening to me. i onli know the names bar honda, and if u go by that, then proton shouldn't b there. it's about separate legal entities...

What on earth do you mean. The shell is a Waja. LAst I check it's a Proton bodyshell. So to call it a Proton Waja can't be wrong. .... seperate legal entities?? Names of a vehicle are at times dictated by marketing forces.......

read up more and you will probly understand.. In Super GT entrants are allowed to register their race cars name as whatever they want. Most Jap teams would incorporate their sponsors names. .

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

yeah yeah... like Esso Supra and Advan Supra... afterall, they are still using the same car...
there's also ARTA NSX...

 

[faisal]

yeah yeah... like Esso Supra and Advan Supra... afterall, they are still using the same car...
there's also ARTA NSX...

My favourite is still Calsonic Skyline and Xanavi Nismo Zed ( all pronounced with aJAp accent) hahha

 

[TireSmoke]

malaysians will be malaysian, you can never do anything good, because once you succeed, someone will always try to put you down.

that's why we as malaysians don't innovate. because "takut kena kutuk"

well, same sh*t different day.

Malaysia Boleh.

 

[HKS-GT2835R]

no offense but i still think it would be more appropriate to call it an r3 nissan waja... :)

i know this facts here ain't no car's, but the aprilia RS250 uses a suzuki engine while still bein' called an aprilia all these years , same case oso as bimota use either suzuki/yamaha/ducati engine in their prod bikes...

 

[Crash]

malaysians will be malaysian, you can never do anything good, because once you succeed, someone will always try to put you down.

that's why we as malaysians don't innovate. because "takut kena kutuk"

well, same sh*t different day.

Malaysia Boleh.

I have to agree with you there la, bro. There's always some negative party that tries to put you down no matter what you do, out of spite and envy.

People who can't wait to see you fail or fall. Who'd laugh and say "I told you so". And these are people who merely watch from the sidelines all the while.

Sad but true. Grr.

Oh wtf, let's bash some more!

 

[Hawke]

What on earth do you mean. The shell is a Waja. LAst I check it's a Proton bodyshell. So to call it a Proton Waja can't be wrong. .... seperate legal entities?? Names of a vehicle are at times dictated by marketing forces.......

read up more and you will probly understand.. In Super GT entrants are allowed to register their race cars name as whatever they want. Most Jap teams would incorporate their sponsors names. .

i meant the waja with the sr20 :D sorry if mistake the car... thought the r3 waja was equipped wif an sr20? or was i mistaken?