Need to choose between waja campro or chevrolet optra
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they were too ambitious perhaps..he he he
according to minivan, optra 1.8 out of stock already. if optra 1.6 compare to waja 1.6, avoid both lah. unless the optra 1.6 is sold at 40-45K. than worth every penny...
IMHO, I'd rather buy a 20 years "old" japaense than a new waja with 60k..
Anything verses protron.. the result is clear
Just an example. No offence to to pro-protons out there..
Anything verses protron.. the result is clear
Just an example. No offence to to pro-protons out there..
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Pros & Cons:
Waja:
1. Easier to maintain, spare parts plenty even for Campro model.
2. Forget about people saying no power (that only applies for the automatic model), but if u upgrade the stock standard exhaust manifold to those after market extractor and remove the CAT, the low end power will increase.
3. Better resale value.
4. Parts interchangeable with Mitsubishi Lancer MX or FTO (plenty of future upgrades).
5. Many Waja clubs to join, WPC, WRC... etc...
Optra:
1. Expensive maintain because it is a Korean car and most parts are fully imported. An oil filter costs RM 35, air filter another RM 50 and most Japanese parts won't fit it well without mods.
2. Lousy resale value - expect to drop more than 60% after 3 years of ownership. Ask any Kia/Hyundai owners out there.
3. Clubs? Are there any?
4. A 2005 model would probably be a lemon because after long exposure to our local climate, plastic parts will start to creak and crack (u won't see it until a year or so).
5. How reliable is the Korean engine? Quite actually but don't expect to bolt-on turbo or do crazy internal mods because unlike Japanese cars, parts are hard to come by. And even if u manage to track down a used chop parts, u can't use most of it because Korean cars are LHD!
BTW, Proton also recycle unsold models as new. Eg. A 2007 Gen2 could be a 2005 or 2006 batch left to bake under the hot sun outside Proton Edar without u knowing it. Why? My bro's Gen2 2007 model is falling apart, majority due to cheap plastic parts cracking here n there.
A side note: Don't buy used Japanese cars if u r not a motorhead or really don't know how to maintain an old car properly. U will end up spending more money than a new one. Seriously. I drive an 18 year old Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 and so far, I've spend more than a new Perodua Viva 1.0 Premium to maintain it as well as upgrade many worn out parts with performance ones. Yes, it will definitely eat many new cars for breakfast, lunch and dinner but u need plenty of patience and money.
Waja:
1. Easier to maintain, spare parts plenty even for Campro model.
2. Forget about people saying no power (that only applies for the automatic model), but if u upgrade the stock standard exhaust manifold to those after market extractor and remove the CAT, the low end power will increase.
3. Better resale value.
4. Parts interchangeable with Mitsubishi Lancer MX or FTO (plenty of future upgrades).
5. Many Waja clubs to join, WPC, WRC... etc...
Optra:
1. Expensive maintain because it is a Korean car and most parts are fully imported. An oil filter costs RM 35, air filter another RM 50 and most Japanese parts won't fit it well without mods.
2. Lousy resale value - expect to drop more than 60% after 3 years of ownership. Ask any Kia/Hyundai owners out there.
3. Clubs? Are there any?
4. A 2005 model would probably be a lemon because after long exposure to our local climate, plastic parts will start to creak and crack (u won't see it until a year or so).
5. How reliable is the Korean engine? Quite actually but don't expect to bolt-on turbo or do crazy internal mods because unlike Japanese cars, parts are hard to come by. And even if u manage to track down a used chop parts, u can't use most of it because Korean cars are LHD!
BTW, Proton also recycle unsold models as new. Eg. A 2007 Gen2 could be a 2005 or 2006 batch left to bake under the hot sun outside Proton Edar without u knowing it. Why? My bro's Gen2 2007 model is falling apart, majority due to cheap plastic parts cracking here n there.
A side note: Don't buy used Japanese cars if u r not a motorhead or really don't know how to maintain an old car properly. U will end up spending more money than a new one. Seriously. I drive an 18 year old Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 and so far, I've spend more than a new Perodua Viva 1.0 Premium to maintain it as well as upgrade many worn out parts with performance ones. Yes, it will definitely eat many new cars for breakfast, lunch and dinner but u need plenty of patience and money.
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shall i demand the final decision from the thread starter? Usually we will never know what's the final decision from thread starter. 
just a stupid thought.
just a stupid thought.
yeah, only if you buy the 1.6X premium spec. it comes with twin airbags, ABS, EBD, traction control and automatic climate control. it also has leather seats and rear adjustable headrests which none of other 1.6 Wajas have.
pay about 30-33K and make sure it has good service history.
that Waja 1.6X is worth every penny for the all equipment, compare to 1.8X, 1.6 EV or 1.6 Campro.
The Optra, hands down.
You are getting quite a LOT of car for that money. This is a Civic/Altis class car selling for Waja money. I can tell you this because my sister just bought a CBU Optra 5 for 61k. It is a bargain for what you get for your money. About maintenance and fuel consumption and other running costs, obviously you should be expecting it to be around Civic/Altis class as well. Besides, service is every 10k km so should lessen the blow a bit. Everything about the car is solid (much better than a Waja) and it comes fully equipped. And, did I mention that the Optra 5 is much much better looking than the Waja. No brainer really.
Before my sis got it, I had my doubts, mainly because of its Korean origins, but now that I've got a taste of the car I think its a serious bargain.
Although, bear in mind I'm talking about the Optra 5 (CBU). I'm not so sure about the sedan.
And speaking of depreciation, who the fuck cares anyway? The market is shit and resale value in general is shit. And Protons aren't holding value like they used to. Plus, they disintegrate as quickly as our government buildings.
You are getting quite a LOT of car for that money. This is a Civic/Altis class car selling for Waja money. I can tell you this because my sister just bought a CBU Optra 5 for 61k. It is a bargain for what you get for your money. About maintenance and fuel consumption and other running costs, obviously you should be expecting it to be around Civic/Altis class as well. Besides, service is every 10k km so should lessen the blow a bit. Everything about the car is solid (much better than a Waja) and it comes fully equipped. And, did I mention that the Optra 5 is much much better looking than the Waja. No brainer really.
Before my sis got it, I had my doubts, mainly because of its Korean origins, but now that I've got a taste of the car I think its a serious bargain.
Although, bear in mind I'm talking about the Optra 5 (CBU). I'm not so sure about the sedan.
And speaking of depreciation, who the fuck cares anyway? The market is shit and resale value in general is shit. And Protons aren't holding value like they used to. Plus, they disintegrate as quickly as our government buildings.
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