Evo I- III

[DOHC_16valve]

To all GUYS n SIFUS (especially jinkl)...;
Im so sad n jz realised dat jpj will not approved my car if i convert it to any 2.0 engine.....damn....MAXimum is only 1.8...dat mean GSR lol...hiah...wat a waste...y...y...y...y they r doing dis...no fair...people got money can do anything they like la 2 their car...mmm....meanin 2 say,i probably goin 2 get a GSR engine....huhuhuhu...so sad..cannot play2 with vr4 or evo engine....

To u all guys n sifus..thanx 4 givin me so much info...especially jinkl(real sifu)...thanked 2 u sifu...givin me all da knowledge regardin da engine...

thanx...thanx....thanx....to all of u who read n reply my post....

 

[jinkl]

hehe
dohc_16valve
if u r on 1.6 call me :P 1.6 -> 2.0 still got jalan to kawtim

if u r 1.5 then go for vr4 :)
go get 4g67 engine kosong very very very cheap
put ur vr4 stuff in , jalan 1.8 roadtax inside ? 2.0 :P

got a few of us here with 1.8 block code
i also know one guy name kho kho... kho.. batuk 1.6 with 2.0 inside hahaha
and one more mi .. mit .. mit... 2.0 outside 2.4 inside :D

 

[MitonCT26]

To all GUYS n SIFUS (especially jinkl)...;

thanx 4 givin me so much info...especially jinkl(real sifu)...thanked 2 u sifu...givin me all da knowledge regardin da engine...

wah mahaguru sudah terkenal already...sifu jin, salute you lah... :angel_smile: :_:

the name kho*** macam kenal je... that mit****** who is it ah? macam tak kenal je mamat tu... :angel_smile:

 

[S1997]

DOHC- Just contact jin sifu first before u do anything. he has the lights for all lar....very important!

I heard that there are two chaps driving all the way from thailand border 3am in the morning just to get his advice man...

lis man weli da sifu lor!

 

[jinkl]

for a while more i gonna shoot all of u ppl
dont lerrr buli me
that mit mit mit... guy laughing looking at white and blue smoke out of my car

 

[cobra_motor]

aiya, jinkl, faster buy my vr4rs pistons maaa. later u can boost 1.4 bar minimum again. monster evo3/vr4 rojak.

 

[alvin24]

wah... so fast got people running 2.4 aledi ar on the roads... =Þ Thought of doing it... but scared internals would be too heavy. =Þ think i'd rather opt for stroker kits... but frigging expensive lah. =Þ

Think wat jinkl is trying to say about choosing the 'right' halfcut would be because.... evo1,2,3 once u start modding... is all the same wan laa. =Þ hahaha... but in stock condition, of course evo3 is the best lar.

IF building a monster... VR4 is the best lar... the block almost indestructable!! =Þ evo internals too weak to go all out.

Brader jinkl never tell story on how u ended up with a VR4 block on his evo3 monster ke? kekeke.... !!

 

[khoyos]

wei wei wei jinkl, jaga mulut tu, dun simply tembak people...

 

[jinkl]

khoyos : sorry boss, i tertembak , praaaaaaaappppppp pshhhhh

alvin24 : u dnt know , some ppl here POWER CRAZY , ppl drive 2.0 also sakit to pour petrol , bt this fella's aiyoo 2.4 pajero block also dowan to let go , how we going to cari makan ?

dohc_16valve: dont buy vr4 laaaa fren, leave the vr4 for us laaa, vr4 is old and not good u know :P (keep the spareparts for us la)

 

[alvin24]

hahaha... but just so happen i'm one of those 'rare' kinds that never bothered to mod the engine ler. I never really did anything since day 1 transplanted also lerz. Dun feel like modding la... stock standard so nice to drive liau. =)

If u'd ask me for advice... i'd say go for evo1 only la... eventually when u start to upgrade engine management, turbo and forged pistons... there goes the 3 things that makes the evo3 superior to evo1 and 2. =Þ

Unless u aren't gonna mod it at all... then evo3... coz' of the higher compression.

VR4 is only for those who already have their mind set at building at least a 500hp mofo!

 

[mag9556]

hi, all taiko...
I have a fren and he had sold off his vr4 aredy, b4 he sold off his wira a/b aredy have 400 hp whn making dyno test at n1..
at 4 lamp post 200km/h start from 0km/h..
he said tht his vr4 can not modify anymore (rpm red line 11k, just like mivec but vr4)..
modify nearly 70k for the engine..
this sifu got 1 putra tht hv nearly 700 hp in his putra... hope this info is useful..

 

[Daihatsu Mira]

gear box ratio...

DOHC_16valve hehehe
tht story was mine hehehehehhehehe

from wht i see , u got a daily driven car already rite ?
depends on ur budget la bro then u get what u want

if daily driven car to tapau all cars on road (not monsters cars ah)
i choose the evo3 , why evo 3 , again

- evo 3 turbo (most craved by US ppl) , 16g BIG fin , 7cm turbine housing
- evo 3 9:1 compression , almost reaching n/a compression , suitable for town driving and superb response
- evo 3 turbo capable of 380hp on engine
- evo 3 close gear ratio is very very nice for drag and top speed , i tink 7krpm u get (250-260kmh)
- evo 3 anti lag , the extra lil box that u can see in halfcut to keep some amount of air to reduce lag, VERY responsive with it between gears
- evo 3 gearbox has twin sync on 1st gear and 2nd gear

downfall of evo3 engine :
- suitable for max 1.2bar of boost safely
- thin conrods
- high compression not suitable for high boost

to get more power , they come in a package , to boost 1.2bar u need atleast:
- safc
- metal gasket
- change fuel pump
- fuel regulator
- semi racing clutch so it doesnt slip


evo 1-2
- turbo is twin fin small 16g's
- 8.5:1 compression engine
- good response bt not like the e3's
- gearbox ratio , u get longer pulls for 1st and 2nd gears
- suitable for higher boost than e3's cos compression is lower abit


if u compare e1-2 and e3 , e3 beats up in response , drivability , performance
e1-2 turbo is smaller 6cm housing and smaller fin , bt compression is lower so u got space to boost higher , limitation of all these ev engines are the conrods , cant take high power.

vr4rs : bullet proof engine , this is ONLY TO BUILD A BEAST/MONSTER

halfcut 3.5k
custom intercooler 600
metal gasket 200
upgrade turbine 1000
stainless steel intercooler piping 700
rechip drax ecu 600-800
boost 1.5bar
horsepower expected - atleast 310-330whp (350 around on engine)

in conclusion vr4 is worth if u r getting a beast up , evo's are the way to go if ur going for 1bar boost and having fun on the roads with minimal modding.

my suggest , throw the mivec from ur mind, not to offend mivec guys
but then upgradability of mivec is crazy
if u gonna put turbo kit for mivec and put more mods to it ,
it will defeat the purpose cos a stock e3 will still tapau u or have a big fight with stock itself.

since i reading this thread...
i found u know so much about E3 engine and gear box...
so i got some question here...
jinkl may u answer my question...
what is the E3 gear box ratio...
final drive ratio...?

 

[Daihatsu Mira]

jinkl...
which gear box more close ratio?
evo1...evo2...evo3?
why?

 

[jinkl]

ratios

1st
2.571
2.750

2nd
1.600
1.684

3rd
1.160
1.160

4th
0.862
0.862

5th
0.617
0.617


Final Ratio
5.433
5.358

 

[khoyos]

confirm he's a sifu

 

[jinkl]

bt khoyos 1*9* cc engine has 4.* final drive , top speed mar

 

[serenum]

when 2 litres dudes chats bout their stuff..

1.8 kid just watching.

jinkl true sifu.

bila mau sopang heh?

 

[MitonCT26]

confirm he's a sifu

ala...he's a JIN what...sure what also know....a walking 4G61/63/64/67 bible/encyclopedia and his personal favourite...69 with a chick...AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA....

eh jin...dun la say like you cannot cari makan..."my car slow bai...."

i only got 140 stock BHp yours 410 WHP at 1,3 bar...ada lagi potential one....







cabutz*

 

[Daihatsu Mira]

ratios

1st
2.571
2.750

2nd
1.600
1.684

3rd
1.160
1.160

4th
0.862
0.862

5th
0.617
0.617


Final Ratio
5.433
5.358

thanks sifu....:_:

 

[jinkl]

miton : i got it only in my head , u got it all in ur hood wei , 24XX cc hehehehhehehehehehehe

serenum : 1.8 is 1.8 bt who is sepang king other than u ?