WTA: Owning a Evo VIII

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Dear all,

Been MIA from ZTH for quite a while, today opening a thread to help me make a decision whether i can afford a used EVO VIII GSR with my current salary. I don't mind disclose my salary so that anyone can help me in analysing some facts.

Currently my nett salary is 4k per mth with quarterly incentives, which will make up to 5k per month. I have been eyeing for owning an Evo for the past 9 years since Uni time. I commute 60 kms daily and occasionally go for visiting retailers for 3 days. My job is mainly indoor.

In your opinion, do you think my current salary can afford an Evo VIII as a daily? Btw i don't owe bank any money as i haven't purchase any property yet. My current car has already paid off.

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Are you paying full cash to buy the Evo or are you paying it in monthly installments? I remember once an Evo X owner here said that he need to allocate around RM1k per month for his petrol bills as he uses it for daily drive. I don't think the 4G63T engine in Evo VIII will consume less fuel than 4B11T in Evo X.
 

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I will be paying half of the car with cash and aim to settle the remaining with 5 years. I will allocate about RM1k for installment. Wow ... the 4G63T consumes like an elephant. I think remapping the ECU is needed to lower than the consumption and lower down the boost as well with boost controller.
 

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5k per mth.... its really pushing it, do you have any other commitments? wife? house?
 

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I will be paying half of the car with cash and aim to settle the remaining with 5 years. I will allocate about RM1k for installment. Wow ... the 4G63T consumes like an elephant. I think remapping the ECU is needed to lower than the consumption and lower down the boost as well with boost controller.
If you can get 10KM/L it is very lucky already. Does your 60km commute daily comes with heavy traffic jams? Expect average around 8km/L.
 

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I will be paying half of the car with cash and aim to settle the remaining with 5 years. I will allocate about RM1k for installment. Wow ... the 4G63T consumes like an elephant. I think remapping the ECU is needed to lower than the consumption and lower down the boost as well with boost controller.
Actually, why not consider it as a weekend car or something. If your current car have a better fuel consumption, why not use that for daily? Nothing much you can do with an Evo if you are driving inside a city especially if traffic jam always occurs. At least you can save up on fuel and reduce the time interval between oil changes and services.
 

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5k per mth.... its really pushing it, do you have any other commitments? wife? house?
No i don't have any commitment currently. Still single. Got a GF though and we both won't married that early. I am pushing late 20s.

If you can get 10KM/L it is very lucky already. Does your 60km commute daily comes with heavy traffic jams? Expect average around 8km/L.
Yes of course, i am working in Kota Damansara while my GF works in Subang SS15. We car pool to save fuel. I face jamme every day on Federal Highway in the morning, NKVE jamme in the evening while on the way back, then a short jamme at Federal to reach Klang.

Actually, why not consider it as a weekend car or something. If your current car have a better fuel consumption, why not use that for daily? Nothing much you can do with an Evo if you are driving inside a city especially if traffic jam always occurs. At least you can save up on fuel and reduce the time interval between oil changes and services.
I have one car and my GF has one. Our apartment only gives us 2 parking lots. I will either replace my current 08 Lancer or rent another parking lot, not expensive for additional parking lot, its only RM80 per month.
 

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Perhaps it is better if you use another car as daily instead of the Evo. Probably that will be better for your Evo too if you are not using it occasionally and exposing it to various risks of daily driving in KL such as minor scratches and dents.
 

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Yes of course, i am working in Kota Damansara while my GF works in Subang SS15. We car pool to save fuel. I face jamme every day on Federal Highway in the morning, NKVE jamme in the evening while on the way back, then a short jamme at Federal to reach Klang.
Yo, you're a Klang dude too? I am from Klang myself. Anyway, since you are facing massive jams everyday, if you're going to get the EVO, it will only be a weekend car. Petrol will definitely kill you if you drive it daily. Trust me :)
Even though you don't have commitments, RM5k is really pushing it to the limit like what lsm1991 said earlier. Not to say that we are stopping you, it is just ill advise to get one at this stage. The car can come later.
 

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Hmm bro, you want to already commit 20-25% of your income just for a car installment?? Not to mention that this is a pretty old car which most people already abuse kaw kaw so may need to spend even more to repair stuff. Then you'll get itchy for mods as this car has tons of options available. And yeah again the fuel consumption, at best only 8km/ltr, at worst can be 5-6km/ltr.

IMHO that's really not a wise choice at all. I applaud you for really wanting to live up your dream with that awesome car but I suggest you to be a bit more patient and work hard & smart to earn more first. Note also now economy is not good, things are more expensive every time, so better save for the rainy days.
 

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I like this sorta thread. Nevermind he comes in asking about owning a nice car and all, but at least sets realistic expectations and provides complete info.

So let's break this down a bit. There's a EVO VIII in ZTH that's selling for 90k that's almost stock. So I'll use that as a guide.

1. Your salary is 4k + 1k a month. Banks will only look at the 4k, and take 30% of your gross salary as your loan capability per month. So that's about RM1200 approvable loan. Do you have any outstanding credit cards? Property under your own name or shared? Ptptn? Deduct all that from your salary before taking out 30% as your approvable monthly instalment.

2. You have a Lancer. I'll assume it's the 4B11 generation one. Resale value for a 2012 model is about 50k. So the Evo being 90k means your loan will be 40k and interest on used cars isn't cheap, I'm gonna guestimate it about 5%. Max loan for older cars these days is 5 years. So that means monthly including interest for 5 years is roughly about 850 a month.

3. Petrol on a Evo is about 6 to 10km/L max. Full tank of RON97 40L is RM78. KD to Subang and back sounds like roughly you travel 70km a day just to work. So 20 days work (weekends off) is 1400km and if I take the average of 8km/L fuel consumption, that's roughly 5 times refill in that 20 days. So your petrol bill in a month will minimally be RM400. This is not including weekends, if you include - it'll probably shoot up to RM600 depending on where you go and whether you boost or not.

So that's RM500 (average) petrol and RM850 monthly instalment.

4. Then there's maintenance. The VIII is not a new car - parts will break down, things will need replacing, the oils alone for this car will be expensive since you'll be using the good stuff for the engine, gearbox, LSD, er.. I forgot one other thing. I recall it needed 4 types of oils to replace. Then there's the tyres. 17" reasonably good tyres go for RM400 a piece for roughly a year. And since the car is turbo, your oil changes will be helluva more frequent than NA. Maybe every 5000km change oil?

5. Evo's are very high on the thief list. You'll be worried about the car day in and day out if it's a daily. Then the amount of money you'll end up spending on security will add up to be about 3k+ (I did something similar to my car in the day).

Not trying to discourage you but just laying down the facts. Evos are awesome cars. Just that most awesome cars need a lot of money to keep it awesome.
 

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The insurance will cost more than other typical vehicles, if I am not wrong as this car is high on the list among thieves, etc
Either that, or they will insist the owner to install much better (and expensive) alarm system.

At one time, my uncle had to do that, becoz his Triton, and his CRV is a hot item, among thieves.


What bro Izso said is true. In addition, the cost would not include modding/upgrading the EVO, esp when the owner becoming itchy-hand and kana poison by the group of friends.


Buying is ok, keeping and maintaining the car is much harder.
 

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yeah.... you should minus all your expenses and come up with your gross salary 1st to see if you can afford to maintain this high performance car.....
trust me... an old car's maintenance can get pretty scary. Things can and will go wrong when you least expect it and some of these parts will burn a hole in your pocket. (some of this fires might even burn your pants off)

then comes the poison... when you start modifying, say goodbye to all your savings

**also, its not actually fun driving these cars in jams..... it can be a real pain.... kaki sakit, hati sakit (knowing that your petrol is burning) and if your car is bising, ahh telinga also sakit (droning is nice for a while, but after a while it grows old)

i myself own a 20 year old car which i was expecting to maintain for 5-6k anually. After 6 months ow ownership, yeah... looks like that aint happening :proud:
 

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The insurance will cost more than other typical vehicles, if I am not wrong as this car is high on the list among thieves, etc
Either that, or they will insist the owner to install much better (and expensive) alarm system.
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This is what I'm also wondering actually here in Malaysia. I heard for this type of cars (high performance ones), they'd add some loading so the premium will be more expensive coz it's categorized as sports car, is it true?

Then if we do install very good alarm and immobilizer systems, can that reduce the premium?

last news I read from Paultan is that starting July they'd revise the insurance regulation to make it more free to the insurance companies to determine and therefore make it more like developed countries such as US whereby the premium will depend of the type of cars & age, driver age, gender, records, etc2 so in summary be more risk specific based premium. So if this comes true than such cars will really get hit with high premiums. This TS should also consider.
 

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Insurance detariff is coming. Shit will only get more expensive for an Evo.
 

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This is what I'm also wondering actually here in Malaysia. I heard for this type of cars (high performance ones), they'd add some loading so the premium will be more expensive coz it's categorized as sports car, is it true?

Then if we do install very good alarm and immobilizer systems, can that reduce the premium?

last news I read from Paultan is that starting July they'd revise the insurance regulation to make it more free to the insurance companies to determine and therefore make it more like developed countries such as US whereby the premium will depend of the type of cars & age, driver age, gender, records, etc2 so in summary be more risk specific based premium. So if this comes true than such cars will really get hit with high premiums. This TS should also consider.
yesh.... me kene 30% loading.... (could be more, i cant really remember)

as of right now you could have a 5k alarm system, they dun care, they charge the same premium (afaik)
 

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I like this sorta thread. Nevermind he comes in asking about owning a nice car and all, but at least sets realistic expectations and provides complete info.

So let's break this down a bit. There's a EVO VIII in ZTH that's selling for 90k that's almost stock. So I'll use that as a guide.

1. Your salary is 4k + 1k a month. Banks will only look at the 4k, and take 30% of your gross salary as your loan capability per month. So that's about RM1200 approvable loan. Do you have any outstanding credit cards? Property under your own name or shared? Ptptn? Deduct all that from your salary before taking out 30% as your approvable monthly instalment.

2. You have a Lancer. I'll assume it's the 4B11 generation one. Resale value for a 2012 model is about 50k. So the Evo being 90k means your loan will be 40k and interest on used cars isn't cheap, I'm gonna guestimate it about 5%. Max loan for older cars these days is 5 years. So that means monthly including interest for 5 years is roughly about 850 a month.

3. Petrol on a Evo is about 6 to 10km/L max. Full tank of RON97 40L is RM78. KD to Subang and back sounds like roughly you travel 70km a day just to work. So 20 days work (weekends off) is 1400km and if I take the average of 8km/L fuel consumption, that's roughly 5 times refill in that 20 days. So your petrol bill in a month will minimally be RM400. This is not including weekends, if you include - it'll probably shoot up to RM600 depending on where you go and whether you boost or not.

So that's RM500 (average) petrol and RM850 monthly instalment.

4. Then there's maintenance. The VIII is not a new car - parts will break down, things will need replacing, the oils alone for this car will be expensive since you'll be using the good stuff for the engine, gearbox, LSD, er.. I forgot one other thing. I recall it needed 4 types of oils to replace. Then there's the tyres. 17" reasonably good tyres go for RM400 a piece for roughly a year. And since the car is turbo, your oil changes will be helluva more frequent than NA. Maybe every 5000km change oil?

5. Evo's are very high on the thief list. You'll be worried about the car day in and day out if it's a daily. Then the amount of money you'll end up spending on security will add up to be about 3k+ (I did something similar to my car in the day).

Not trying to discourage you but just laying down the facts. Evos are awesome cars. Just that most awesome cars need a lot of money to keep it awesome.
Wow a comprehensive analysis, which is what i am asking for. Seems like you are having one for yourself. I am very aware of the AYC, ACD maintenance. Many other owners i met were shocked when they first having their first EVOs. For maintenance wise, let's hope and pray hard nothing major needs replacement except for typical oil changes and brake services.

Evos are high on thief list ? That is something i don't aware. Need to invest in quick release steering wheel and pedal locks then hahaha.

Anyway reason i chose VIII over IX or even X simply because i like its shape more than others. In fact my best choice will always be VII but its too rare to find a lightly modified one.
 

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Wow a comprehensive analysis, which is what i am asking for. Seems like you are having one for yourself. I am very aware of the AYC, ACD maintenance. Many other owners i met were shocked when they first having their first EVOs. For maintenance wise, let's hope and pray hard nothing major needs replacement except for typical oil changes and brake services.

Evos are high on thief list ? That is something i don't aware. Need to invest in quick release steering wheel and pedal locks then hahaha.

Anyway reason i chose VIII over IX or even X simply because i like its shape more than others. In fact my best choice will always be VII but its too rare to find a lightly modified one.
I assumed you have already done your research on it prior to the creation of this thread since you have met a lot of owners. Anyway, from your reply it seems you have made your decision. Enjoy the ride :biggrin:
 

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I assumed you have already done your research on it prior to the creation of this thread since you have met a lot of owners. Anyway, from your reply it seems you have made your decision. Enjoy the ride :biggrin:
Hahaha well indeed i am, for many years before. I promised myself if i can earn about RM5k a month i will really look for an EVO. For the meantime i will lay low and keep searching for a lightly modded unit. Stroked EVO engine is a big NO to me.
 

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Actually I also had a dilemma like you last time..

I drove a Perdana V6TT (my favourite like you waited for 9 years but lucky price for perdana drop) before but for a year after used I sell the car off since once I calculate the maintenance and the time lost for this, I can buy a brand new car with no worries for another 5 years which I am using the car now...hehe...
Every time sit at garage just to wait for the repair, service, and upgrading until one time my gf (now wife) ask me to marry the car instead of her.
It will be like having a pet or mistress once you own such monster thus pocket always dry, want to go here need to think and calculate, go there also calculate on the budget.

Manual also will make your life miserable since you are in Klang valley thus you can not able to guarantee that your butt will stick in office for another 5 years since such market situations.

The FC, no need to think it will be low since mine full tank just can reach 350km (since modded a lot) only i dont know how many liter tank (5 year back already) but damn can easily reach RM 1000 just for petrol a month coz every tank RM 100++


Just my experience, at the end also depends on you...
me now just an a pek sitting a family car with kids now..
every one also want to owe their dream car, make sure that car is a liability not an asset.

Good Luck :smokin:
 

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every one also want to owe their dream car, make sure that car is a liability not an asset.

Good Luck :smokin:
I think you meant the other way around. Anyway car is always a depreciating asset. Just make sure you're financially able to absorb that depreciation.
 

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Wow a comprehensive analysis, which is what i am asking for. Seems like you are having one for yourself. I am very aware of the AYC, ACD maintenance. Many other owners i met were shocked when they first having their first EVOs. For maintenance wise, let's hope and pray hard nothing major needs replacement except for typical oil changes and brake services.

Evos are high on thief list ? That is something i don't aware. Need to invest in quick release steering wheel and pedal locks then hahaha.

Anyway reason i chose VIII over IX or even X simply because i like its shape more than others. In fact my best choice will always be VII but its too rare to find a lightly modified one.
So even with such detailed analysis which doesn't look promising to you, you still want to go ahead?? Not sure why you ask this question in the first place if you seem to already make up your mind to begin with.

Quick release steering would not help much if the theft is already observing your car for some time. He'd just bring a steering along to fit it and drive away. Doing that will also reduce the safety of the Evo coz you'll take away 1 most important air bag from the steering already. And you'd need many more than just pedal locks.

Actually if you join some of the Evo forums in FB, there are quite a few VII on sale now, some even as low as only 60-65k now but of course much harder to get loan if any.
 

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yesh.... me kene 30% loading.... (could be more, i cant really remember)

as of right now you could have a 5k alarm system, they dun care, they charge the same premium (afaik)
Mine 20% loading already complaint a lot, yours 30%?.....wow!:smokin:
 

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Actually I also had a dilemma like you last time..

I drove a Perdana V6TT (my favourite like you waited for 9 years but lucky price for perdana drop) before but for a year after used I sell the car off since once I calculate the maintenance and the time lost for this, I can buy a brand new car with no worries for another 5 years which I am using the car now...hehe...
Every time sit at garage just to wait for the repair, service, and upgrading until one time my gf (now wife) ask me to marry the car instead of her.
It will be like having a pet or mistress once you own such monster thus pocket always dry, want to go here need to think and calculate, go there also calculate on the budget.

Manual also will make your life miserable since you are in Klang valley thus you can not able to guarantee that your butt will stick in office for another 5 years since such market situations.

The FC, no need to think it will be low since mine full tank just can reach 350km (since modded a lot) only i dont know how many liter tank (5 year back already) but damn can easily reach RM 1000 just for petrol a month coz every tank RM 100++


Just my experience, at the end also depends on you...
me now just an a pek sitting a family car with kids now..
every one also want to owe their dream car, make sure that car is a liability not an asset.

Good Luck :smokin:
I was about to mention the reliability part. Putting aside for installments, petrol, maintenance is the easy part, only the unexpected major repairs for an old car, that can cause a lot and a lot of time too, like bro. mag mentioned.

But then again what does TS want out of the car. Drive a power car or satisfied with just a normal car.....:smokin:
 

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If the detariff follows the UK style of insurance, we're all doomed to hell. Not only do we have one of Asias most expensive cars, we will also have Asias most expensive insurance policies.

In UK if I recall specific group of cars are categorized under different insurance groups and then the age of the driver further contributes to the insurance tariff. The younger you are the more expensive it is.

Anyway MitEvo7 : If you're looking for a VIII - here's one :

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=460514

This car was the one I based my assumptions on. 90k for a super stock 8 with bodykit .
 

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if it takes age and all that into account.... matilah saya...... will not go find the raja bomoh to stop that from happening
*runs off to find coconut/watermelon man*
 

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So even with such detailed analysis which doesn't look promising to you, you still want to go ahead?? Not sure why you ask this question in the first place if you seem to already make up your mind to begin with.

Quick release steering would not help much if the theft is already observing your car for some time. He'd just bring a steering along to fit it and drive away. Doing that will also reduce the safety of the Evo coz you'll take away 1 most important air bag from the steering already. And you'd need many more than just pedal locks.

Actually if you join some of the Evo forums in FB, there are quite a few VII on sale now, some even as low as only 60-65k now but of course much harder to get loan if any.
Sorry mate, i am in the grey area, choosing getting or not getting. I am about 60% getting, now it all depends on the test driving experience of any available units to finalise my decision. Test driving would be the last decision factor.

Whether my future Evo will get stolen or not its really entirely up to luck. Insurance will cover that part if i am really that unlucky.

I've got offer to try on a GTA, love that car but the interior just horrible, especially that tacho and steering wheel.

Actually I also had a dilemma like you last time..

I drove a Perdana V6TT (my favourite like you waited for 9 years but lucky price for perdana drop) before but for a year after used I sell the car off since once I calculate the maintenance and the time lost for this, I can buy a brand new car with no worries for another 5 years which I am using the car now...hehe...
Every time sit at garage just to wait for the repair, service, and upgrading until one time my gf (now wife) ask me to marry the car instead of her.
It will be like having a pet or mistress once you own such monster thus pocket always dry, want to go here need to think and calculate, go there also calculate on the budget.

Manual also will make your life miserable since you are in Klang valley thus you can not able to guarantee that your butt will stick in office for another 5 years since such market situations.

The FC, no need to think it will be low since mine full tank just can reach 350km (since modded a lot) only i dont know how many liter tank (5 year back already) but damn can easily reach RM 1000 just for petrol a month coz every tank RM 100++


Just my experience, at the end also depends on you...
me now just an a pek sitting a family car with kids now..
every one also want to owe their dream car, make sure that car is a liability not an asset.

Good Luck :smokin:
Great life experiences you shared. Well at least you get to own it before you sell it off. I wouldn't know what would happen either after i own one. Anyway thanks for your input, even though your dream car is different than mine but the dilemma is still the same. My GF actually said that if i really want it, i should go and test drive as many times as i can in different occasions (peak traffic hour, normal hour, in city) to see whether it suits my style. I only driven an Evo 6 about 7 years ago on LDP for merely 10 minutes, so that experience is very minimal to affect my passion. I will go and have a few drives before making decision.

I was about to mention the reliability part. Putting aside for installments, petrol, maintenance is the easy part, only the unexpected major repairs for an old car, that can cause a lot and a lot of time too, like bro. mag mentioned.

But then again what does TS want out of the car. Drive a power car or satisfied with just a normal car.....:smokin:
Spot on. Who knows what would happen after i test drive. May be the driving feel is not what i wanted even though i always imagining driving it ? Just like getting into a relationship with your high school crush, you wouldn't know until you had it with her.
 

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If the detariff follows the UK style of insurance, we're all doomed to hell. Not only do we have one of Asias most expensive cars, we will also have Asias most expensive insurance policies.

In UK if I recall specific group of cars are categorized under different insurance groups and then the age of the driver further contributes to the insurance tariff. The younger you are the more expensive it is.

Anyway MitEvo7 : If you're looking for a VIII - here's one :

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=460514

This car was the one I based my assumptions on. 90k for a super stock 8 with bodykit .
It is super stock 8 ! Wow ! The dash meters light up like christmas tree. Will try to contact this seller and arrange for test drive. Thank you so much :adore:
 

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Spot on. Who knows what would happen after i test drive. May be the driving feel is not what i wanted even though i always imagining driving it ? Just like getting into a relationship with your high school crush, you wouldn't know until you had it with her.
When I first got my VR transplanted, just fell in love with it. Now 16 Years later and still loving it. Friend ask why not change car, but car already paid for and nothing wrong just old....hahaha
 

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When I first got my VR transplanted, just fell in love with it. Now 16 Years later and still loving it. Friend ask why not change car, but car already paid for and nothing wrong just old....hahaha
Me too....fell in love with my ride, car all paid and old but something wrong.....IT'S AT THE BLOODY WORKSHOP AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW!!! :thefinger::banghead:
 

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When I first got my VR transplanted, just fell in love with it. Now 16 Years later and still loving it. Friend ask why not change car, but car already paid for and nothing wrong just old....hahaha
Yeah same goes to my Lancer, paid off, nothing's wrong with it, just lack of power. It fact i am actually thinking of doing RA transplant if i failed to own an EVO. My current car has hilo soft hard adjustable and front 4 pot brakes. Good enough for some hoons but just the acceleration is getting me bored.

Me too....fell in love with my ride, car all paid and old but something wrong.....IT'S AT THE BLOODY WORKSHOP AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW!!! :thefinger::banghead:
What went wrong with you car ?
 

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I finding an EVO 7GTA....last month found one....get the money rush there and see. Too bad, other people bought already.:banghead:
 

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When I first got my VR transplanted, just fell in love with it. Now 16 Years later and still loving it. Friend ask why not change car, but car already paid for and nothing wrong just old....hahaha
I first got my car 2nd day I sent for tinting. Then didn't stop tinkering with it until 10 years later and just fell in love with it.

Then forced to sell it cuz not enough downpayment money for a bigger car.

Sigh.


Incidentally, are GTA's abundant in KL ? Cuz an automatic Evo 7 sounds very intriguing. How does the auto box survive the engine power output?
 

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TS, what your GF say about Evo???

If I can remember correctly... last time, a bro in ZTH try to "con" his wifey to agree on buying an Evo, saying that the car actually a family car becoz is has 4 doors.....hahahaha...

later, the wifey Googled this Evo, and found out the truth....the wifey banned the purchasing...
 

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TS, what your GF say about Evo???

If I can remember correctly... last time, a bro in ZTH try to "con" his wifey to agree on buying an Evo, saying that the car actually a family car becoz is has 4 doors.....hahahaha...

later, the wifey Googled this Evo, and found out the truth....the wifey banned the purchasing...
Evo is ungraded Lancer......lol
 

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Yeah same goes to my Lancer, paid off, nothing's wrong with it, just lack of power. It fact i am actually thinking of doing RA transplant if i failed to own an EVO. My current car has hilo soft hard adjustable and front 4 pot brakes. Good enough for some hoons but just the acceleration is getting me bored.
Can do transplant.....:driver:
 

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If the detariff follows the UK style of insurance, we're all doomed to hell. Not only do we have one of Asias most expensive cars, we will also have Asias most expensive insurance policies.

In UK if I recall specific group of cars are categorized under different insurance groups and then the age of the driver further contributes to the insurance tariff. The younger you are the more expensive it is.

Anyway MitEvo7 : If you're looking for a VIII - here's one :

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=460514

I'm hoping they'd consider me old uncle already so lower the premium!

This car was the one I based my assumptions on. 90k for a super stock 8 with bodykit .
I suspect that car is sold already, last time was asking about rm78k actually.

I wonder a Wiralution will be classified under which one....else me also mati :biggrin:
I'd think they would not bother to check so your car will still be considered a normal Wira and applied the same premium as normal wira.

I first got my car 2nd day I sent for tinting. Then didn't stop tinkering with it until 10 years later and just fell in love with it.

Then forced to sell it cuz not enough downpayment money for a bigger car.

Sigh.


Incidentally, are GTA's abundant in KL ? Cuz an automatic Evo 7 sounds very intriguing. How does the auto box survive the engine power output?
There are a few 7 GTA now actually on sale, there's even a manual 8 but then converted to a 5 speed auto using the IX wagon auto gearbox along with the MIVEC IX engine also now.

TS, what your GF say about Evo???

If I can remember correctly... last time, a bro in ZTH try to "con" his wifey to agree on buying an Evo, saying that the car actually a family car becoz is has 4 doors.....hahahaha...

later, the wifey Googled this Evo, and found out the truth....the wifey banned the purchasing...
Was that me?? :rofl: Almost same story but slight differences in the details leh. My wife found out coz me and my boys often race in Gran Turismo using the Evo! Then when we went to check out one, she noticed it and vetoed it once she heard the loud exhaust and found out the price vs age of the car! :banghead:
 
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There are a few 7 GTA now actually on sale, there's even a manual 8 but then converted to a 5 speed auto using the IX wagon auto gearbox along with the MIVEC IX engine also now.



How much the cost if need to convert Evo VII or Evo VIII to auto gear box? What need to change? Meter, gearbox andanythings else?:adore:
 

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I first got my car 2nd day I sent for tinting. Then didn't stop tinkering with it until 10 years later and just fell in love with it.

Then forced to sell it cuz not enough downpayment money for a bigger car.

Sigh.


Incidentally, are GTA's abundant in KL ? Cuz an automatic Evo 7 sounds very intriguing. How does the auto box survive the engine power output?
On stock form the GTA version is detuned a little but I would say, the autobox does hold up well even with light mods. But in terms of higher HP range, I am unsure. The one I drove was mildly tuned.
 

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TS, what your GF say about Evo???

If I can remember correctly... last time, a bro in ZTH try to "con" his wifey to agree on buying an Evo, saying that the car actually a family car becoz is has 4 doors.....hahahaha...

later, the wifey Googled this Evo, and found out the truth....the wifey banned the purchasing...
Lol she loved evo vii. But she is skeptical of the practicalibilty of the ride , especially maintenance. Ahe advise i shud test drive alot and learn more about that car before deciding. Besides she said she cant stop me from owning it, its my car btw.
 

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i have always wanted to own an evo VII but today still don't enough cash,

when I buy my cars, I don't tell any of my family members, when I bought my sgti, I told my parents Im buying a 1.3,
before I bought my perdana I told my wife im getting a saga, few years later told my wife im buying a camry but I ended up with a beemer.

if I do tell them the actual car im buying, they wont agree....they will say car too old, more than 10 years, maintenance high, petrol consumption high etc...
u get what I mean.

but its your dream car, by all means go for it if you have been dreaming for it a long time, u just gotta work a lil harder when the modding bug or repair list
hits you.
 

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Was that me?? :rofl: Almost same story but slight differences in the details leh. My wife found out coz me and my boys often race in Gran Turismo using the Evo! Then when we went to check out one, she noticed it and vetoed it once she heard the loud exhaust and found out the price vs age of the car! :banghead:
I also thought that story was you......lol:driver:
 

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i have always wanted to own an evo VII but today still don't enough cash,

when I buy my cars, I don't tell any of my family members, when I bought my sgti, I told my parents Im buying a 1.3,
before I bought my perdana I told my wife im getting a saga, few years later told my wife im buying a camry but I ended up with a beemer.

if I do tell them the actual car im buying, they wont agree....they will say car too old, more than 10 years, maintenance high, petrol consumption high etc...
u get what I mean.

but its your dream car, by all means go for it if you have been dreaming for it a long time, u just gotta work a lil harder when the modding bug or repair list
hits you.
Sometimes the second party will think more rational than petrol heads like us. All they see car is something that will be changed when the times up and no value of keeping it. For us, we treat cars like our partner, thats why we always have the ultimate dream rate when people view it as junk.

I would say eff'em , its my car its my choice.:biggrin:
 
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