bitch please, in conclusion,f con sucks, blown the 2nd set of oem piston even with 2mm thick gasket, the setting on f con might been alternated already.. damn....now open up engine for the 3rd time.....Answer is yes, you require a map sensor upgrade if you want the ECU to read the boost tables in the hondata ECU map.
With hondata, you will be replacing the OEM MAP sensor. Not sure about E-manage. Never seen an turbo honda car with emanage before, so dunno how the system works. They intercept the map sensor input then return atmospheric reading to stock ECU maybe? Because I know if honda ecu getting map sensor reading exceeding 1004mbar, the check light will come on. Or maybe not, as the 3-4bar Map sensor still outputs 5V maximum. *is thinking while typing this, lol*. I think the second one, but like I said, haven't seen a turbo honda with emanage (as in, haven't had opportunity to look at how the mapping for emanage works for turboed cars)
With hondata, you get extra boost columns for boost, so you have quite fine control over the injectors and ignition outside boost.
If you run a boost cheat, then no. Because you will trick the ECU into not seeing boost. This is usually the old cheaper method of turboing using fuel regulator adjustment
Back to the Map sensor thing.
You can run any map sensor that you know the specs of.
Means at 5V = how much bar Psi/InHg/Bar. You can calibrate easily if you have a good vac/boost meter. For ultimate accuracy, try get a readout from Bosch FSA740 diagnostic station. Some Shell stations have it. One in Kota Bharu, Kelantan does. I also know a station in Penang and KL that has it too, but not sure where, because I met them during the Bosch FSA training seminar.
If you know the specs of that MAP sensor, you can use it. If cannot bolt on TB, you can run a vac line to the intake and reference from there. Stock intake, run a T fitting on the regulator or something. If aftermarket intake, usually got extra vac port you can use.
If want bolt on to TB, choices are quite a lot, hondata only provides settings for neutronics, aem, motec and honda/hondata MAP sensors. But like mentioned earlier, if you know the specs, you can put any map sensor in provided it fits.
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Well obviously your igniter is gone case already. If you upgrade to MSD ignition box, you 'PROBABLY' still have to replace your current igniter, depending on whether it is failing to provide a good signal to the coil/ignition box. The thing with using bigger coils is that it draws more power from the ignitor. And since your previous setup the coil already acted up, I'm thinking it's probably KO'ed.
Good luck with MSD billet distributor. I heard of a guy trying it out. Perhaps it was a defect, but the thing jammed. But since it was only one guy, who knows for sure the reliability?
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Lol, sorry no facebook. Even ZTH also I visit when I free only.
Anyway, replied.
If you do change the map sensor, and run hondata, I can help you with how to wire it in and calibrate.
What did top fuel recommend?
this will be final try.....fed up already..this time either win or forever lose
1.) ordered wiseco 9.0:1 forged piston with eagle rod,need wait 1-2weeks to be arrived
2.) will getting a set of king bearing soon
3.)arp head studs(this studs just pnp or need machine the ori stud holes on the block??)
4.)hondata S300(fucking f con will be forever stay out from my car)
for 1 and 4, wiseco website said that, in order to get the compression rating, must use at least 0.04" thick headgasket, or equal to 1mm... but mine now only have oem gasket (lot of ppl said it is 0.5-0.7mm) and custom 2mm(still not exactly know the reliability since not yet drag full of the performance of the engine), which one should i choose? and there is one manufacturer called OMNI selling higher pressure map sensor that is pnp to our oem manifold and wires, can i use them without rewiring and coupe with hondata??
and will hondata s200 good enough already? cause one fren selling s200 for 1100 and s300 for 1800....and king bearing good enough to be used? sifu pls reply