Battlefield: Sabah

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Ixeo...i dun gym so i dunno much about lifting n stuff but this guy weighed around 55kg when he was doing 50kg bench presses...not sure if thats great but he did look buff :hmmmm:

seems the war has gone online too...wonder if ZTH has been attacked too?

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This thing/case cant be settle overnight. Learn the history. These are not a simple 'Foreign Invasion'. Try google for Jabidah Massacre.

And please also learn what our government have done to keep Sabah in posssesion all this while. They dont just goyang kaki and write fantastic manifesto. This thing happened without our knowledge for a very long time. They claim for Sabah since penubuhan Malaysia. And our government has done anything possible to deny it (yes, anything possible even its evil..google).

These Sulu area also our resident. Sabah resident. Some of them have betrayed our country.
No, which are your target. Cause you dont know which one is your friend which one is your enemy. They only know the leader which already been surrounded in Lahad Datu. Massacre this group, lots of people will get angry.

Oh, btw. They're will trained people. We do send our army alongside our police. Casualties is there in any war. Our side try to deal/nego, to prevent any casualties...
but..things happen..they are dead serious this time..again...they are well trained people..




You wont get most of the stories if you read from our mass media or internet.
Try asking your Navy or SB friend .

They have been there since Day 1..
What has Mal done to keep Sabah?
 

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Ixeo...i dun gym so i dunno much about lifting n stuff but this guy weighed around 55kg when he was doing 50kg bench presses...not sure if thats great but he did look buff :hmmmm:

seems the war has gone online too...wonder if ZTH has been attacked too?

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What has Mal done to keep Sabah?
Campaign like hell.
 

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Just say ... im very curious to ask this , my history is kinda bad... so plz dont bomb me ..
if a war is about to happen,will Philippine back up this sulu guys ? what you all think ?
if they do,will US back up Philippine ?
 

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Information update: Security Level at Sabah now at Stage 2.

Tawau Government office/operational close down.
Traffic in K.Kinabalu not a much as usual report by the family members...
They worried the Philippines people in Sabah will taking part for Sulu act.
Especially those without Mycard...

Hello my fellow Sabahan, please report in & share the info...
 

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not as simple as that...officially Ph gomen is not backing them up as what they did is in the grey area. US will definitely not get involved especially under a democrat. This intervention brings them no benefit.

Pangyau...ppl stocking up on food and necessities too...
 

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this thing is really complicated..sulu peoples are everywhere in sabah, with or without IC. 'thanks' to d project IC by mahathir. even the sabah PEKIDA organisation head is sulu people who claim that he was sultan sulu, he was member of UMNO too. hence, there will be always an insider which will act as informer to the sulu group on our military and police movement.

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Just say ... im very curious to ask this , my history is kinda bad... so plz dont bomb me ..
if a war is about to happen,will Philippine back up this sulu guys ? what you all think ?
if they do,will US back up Philippine ?
the current philippine might not back up this sulu people since malaysia just help their government to make peace with the MILF millitant. however, the previous president such as arroyo and marcos did raise the claim of sabah several time.
 

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let me share story about this group

1 - they are muslims...phil gov dun care about them...thats why MNLF/MILF exist
2 - phil gov dun want to take part at the 1st place...they dun care about these people
3 - they invade becos the SULU sultanate are not getting pay rise...hahaha...so they want to claim sabah as part of sulu
4 - they are holding phil passport
5 - those kampung tat they invade actually are filled with sulu with malaysian nationality...
6 - seek for international recognisation so that they can get "autonomi power" under sultanate of sulu

why policeman not army?
1 - its police case, invader is not an army from other country
2 - army will take action when darurat
3 - malaysia under geneva thingy...cant simply kill2 people

why army keep on silence?
1 - waiting for order
2 - following procedure

actually there are many thing i forgot already cos cant absorb details...will jot down more...

dun worry about our strength...they are capable to handle this situation...what people dun know is...how many of them are "orang awam"? who is gonna answer if suddenly there is a party claim that malaysian army/police killed malaysian? people that has interest in politics will take advantage on this...

lets get together...
 

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It's said that approx. 8++k of them in Sabah...both with n without 'card'...n yeah this is highly Almighty thanks to mahathir...!!! Power crazy now backfiring...end result??? Innocent civilians fall victims!!!!!

this thing is really complicated..sulu peoples are everywhere in sabah, with or without IC. 'thanks' to d project IC by mahathir. even the sabah PEKIDA organisation head is sulu people who claim that he was sultan sulu, he was member of UMNO too. hence, there will be always an insider which will act as informer to the sulu group on our military and police movement.




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the current philippine might not back up this sulu people since malaysia just help their government to make peace with the MILF millitant. however, the previous president such as arroyo and marcos did raise the claim of sabah several time.
 

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This mismanagement should result in the firing of all the Ministry of Defense & Ministry of Internal Affairs Senior Management staff.

Our wonderful country and brilliant leaders have been outplayed by a small number of pirates from a forgotten sultanate whom do not even have a country of their own.

Our KL Twin Towers should now be re-commemorated to signify:-

1) Weakness of Nation - Not even enough brains to outfox small time terrorist/pirates.
2) Shame of Nation - Do not even have the balls to react in a strong and wilful manner.

Don't be suprised now if Indonesians came down Klang River one of these days to claim KLCC as their own. Reason being there are so many of them there that you might as well claim it as being part of Indonesia. Our government will then try to talk them to death.
 

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Manila Bulletin

Malaysian-Trained MNLF Fighters Join Kiram Forces

By: Edd K. Usman
Published: March 5, 2013
BRACING FOR MORE FIGHTING – Malaysian soldiers aboard an armored personnel carrier drive toward the site of the standoff with Filipino gunmen in Tanduo village, Sabah. Malaysia has vowed to beef up security in the area as the death toll increased following new attacks. (AFP)



Malaysian security forces are now facing battle-tested, Malaysian-trained commanders of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), who know Sabah like the palm of their hands.
Hadji Acmad Bayam, former chief propagandist of the MNLF, revealed this yesterday to the Manila Bulletin, adding that these MNLF forces may have at their disposal a huge arsenal, which they hid deep in Sabah’s rugged terrain when they returned to the Philippines after their rigid training.
Among the firearms are Belgian-made G1 and FAL, which the late Libya leader Colonel Moammar Khadafy supplied through Malaysia.
Bayam said he was confident the Malaysian authorities were not able to find the hidden MNLF firearms because they were kept very well by the MNLF commanders who stayed behind in Sabah.
During that training, Malaysian military trainors even joked about the firearms at the MNLF training camp on Jampiras Island, off Sabah, as they turned over Khadafy’s weapons’ supply.
“We are not even sure if the firearms we are giving you will not be turned against,” the Malaysian trainors had said in a jest.
“Well, speaking of self-fulfilling prophecy,” Bayam said, recalling the jokes of the Malaysian trainors.
Now, Filipinos in Sabah, who are not part of the forces of the Sultanate of Sulu, have already joined the fighting in reaction to what they perceived as Malaysian “atrocities” for killing Imam Maas and his four sons at 7:50 p.m. Saturday.
He recalled that Malaysia’s leadership had even suspected the then chief minister of Sabah, Tun Mustapha, a Tausug from Sulu, of “conspiring” with MNLF Chairman Nur Misuari to secede the oil-rich island.
“You know, if Mindanao is to Manila, Sabah is to Kuala Lumpur,” said Bayam, explaining that Mindanao and Sabah are the “milking cows” of the Philippines and Malaysia, respectively, for their rich natural resources.
Bayam, who yielded to then President Fidel V. Ramos, stayed in Sabah, Malaysia, for nine years before the peace talks with the Ramos administration in 1993.
Bayam stayed in Sabah on-and-off, in 1976-79, in 1980-1986, among other dates.
Further, he said many of the seasoned rebel commanders and rank-and-file members chose to remain on Sabah island to live there.
Majority of them are from Sulu, Tawi-Tawi, Zamboanga Peninsula, but there are also Maguindanaons, Iranons, and probably Maranaos, he said.
A few days ago, he said one of the MNLF foreign-trained commanders belonging to the Top 90 Batch, told him that he was enlisting Tausug warriors and others for reinforcement to the Royal Security Force (RSF) of the Sultanate of Sulu.
“I was trying to contact him yesterday but his phone cannot be reached anymore. I guess he was able to penetrate the Malaysian and Philippine sea-borne blockades in their respective borders.
Bayam described the commander “as soft-spoken but firm and true leader-fighter in actual shooting war.” However, he requested that the commander’s name be not made public.
Last Sunday, Abraham J. Idjirani, spokesman of Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, said 40 people from Basilan, Sulu, Tawi-Tawi, and Zamboanga Peninsula breached the blockades and reached Lahad Datu, Sabah, scene of the standoff that erupted into a firefight.
He said there are many others who are now trying to go to Sabah and help the sultan’s followers led by Rajah Muda Agbimuddin Kiram.
Bayam said that with the way the situation in Sabah is going on, he sees no turning back.
On the other hand, he said this gives the United States an opportunity to correct its “historical error” it committed against the Moro people.
He said this was even acknowledged by the administration of then President George Bush in response to a letter from the late Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) Chairman Ustadhz Salamat Hashim.
Cooler heads should put themselves at work and resolve the issue on Sabah claim.
“This is the best time and opportunity,” Bayam said. “They should seize the fleeting opportunity or lost it forever.”
“As the only leader of the free world, the only guardian of human rights, freedom and democracy, the American government has the opportunity to correct the historical error against the Moro people,” Bayam said.
Feeling Abandoned
Meanwhile, Sultan Jamalul Kiram III who still feeling abandoned by the Philippines yesterday said they are now relying on the United Nations, United States, and United Kingdom for help.
He said they are no longer waiting for any help from the administration of President Benigno S. Aquino III because none is coming anyway.
Kiram aired his sentiments on DZMM radio early Monday morning.
“We are not waiting anymore. No more. There is no help (from the Philippines),” he said in Filipino.
He said now they will rely on the UN, US, and UK.
On the appeal of the President to preserve the lives of the Sultanate of Sulu’s followers in Lahad Datu, Sabah, the sultan struck a defiant mood.
“No more. There is no more preservation... it’s in the hands of Almighty Allah,” the sultan said.
As this developed, former congressman Satur Ocampo, Dr. Carol Araullo, both Bagong Alyansang Makabayan, and Vice President Rafaelita Gonio of the Philippine Constitution Association (Philconsa), paid a visit yesterday at Astanah Kiram in Maharlika Village, Taguig City.
Ocampo and Araullo expressed support to the cause of the Kirams in trying to claim Sabah from Malaysia.
Ocampo said that the President should review the government’s stand because the new developments.
Gonio said her support is a personal one because Philconsa has not yet made its position on the issue.
At about 12:20 p.m. also yesterday, another militant, independent senatorial candidate Teddy Casino also arrived to visit the sultan.
Early Sunday evening, former secretary of Department of National Defense (DND) Norberto Gonzales made a surprised visit at Astanah Kiram, as he belied allegations he had a hand in the Sabah standoff.
He said he saw the sultan on television and felt sad for his condition.
On Malacañang’s allegations he was allegedly one of the “instigators” of the Sabah standoff, he said he did not know about it.
Whether he is a “collaborator” in the now bloody standoff, he had an answer.
“If being a friend (makes you) a collaborator, then I am a collaborator,” said Gonzales, the former former National Security Adviser of then President and now Pampanga Rep. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.



Please somebody show this to the current and previous administration.

 
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Our government will then try to talk them to death.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Word.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but upmost respect for the military and the boys serving the nation, but the respect does not extend to the ministry of defence.
 

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The WHOLE cabinet....I have more respect for my neighbour's dogs who shit n piss near my house than I have for these people...talk to death???hahaha that's a good one....n true to d bone

May God be wiz d people who are fighting for their lives there...


HAHAHAHAHAHA. Word.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but upmost respect for the military and the boys serving the nation, but the respect does not extend to the ministry of defence.
 
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I hope somebody can help me figure this out....how are the invaders still contacting Sulu and the media back in Ph? have they not blocked out the cell towers there or are they on HAM radios?
 

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I highly doubt we are able to jam anything or even thought about doing that.
 

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True...our gov stil need d radio too so they can talk d ph govt n intruders to death...
 

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the cellular network providers are all our own people. they can selectively turn off the cell towers there. Army and Police have their own shortwave radio for internal communication. how come still allow them free communication to their leaders? I'm guessing i'm very wrong here so hoping somebody can explain.

Fazidk...talked to death via TV n FM radio ma hahaha

no recent news on the progress but heard a lot of boats trying to get in...sending in reinforcements?
 

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Time to just wipe them off. Is not that Malaysia dont have great armies with modern weapons. Philippines government should do something about helping out instead of asking Malaysia to withdraw their men or just ask them Sulu armies to withdraw.

Just hope it ends soon and don't involve anymore innocent people's life..
 

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Rosmah talking bout her diamond ring n leather handbag to d 1st lady or whomever....n how she saved from small...that in itself will put anybody into coma



the cellular network providers are all our own people. they can selectively turn off the cell towers there. Army and Police have their own shortwave radio for internal communication. how come still allow them free communication to their leaders? I'm guessing i'm very wrong here so hoping somebody can explain.

Fazidk...talked to death via TV n FM radio ma hahaha

no recent news on the progress but heard a lot of boats trying to get in...sending in reinforcements?
 

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Nope. But if I had to choose to trust him or BN, I will choose to trust him.

I agree with everything you guys say, our police is well trained, our army is ready. But they can't do squat if there's no orders from the top.

I mean, these terrorists didn't just teleport into our country. Who was guarding the borders? Oh wait, the BN government was inviting every Tom, Dick and Hairy over and giving them IC so they can vote for BN right?
 

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What to do, the Sultan Sulu is claiming that Sabah was once belong to them and they have all the rights to claim back Sabah...
This is already a call for War as they are gonna claim back no matter what. Malaysia have to take this into serious consideration.

IF we still don't show some colours to puny terrorist, they will have more Malaysians killed in Sabah. Please do something as
a leader of our country! :mad:

Send in our trained soldiers. Is time to fight back before too many died cuz of your "Sikap Tak Apa". Why always have to wait
till something has become serious only take actions???

Is a clear cut that they are asking for War with they small number of armies. We have more than that to defend our country. :mad:
 

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Well said bro....x agree more...it all started wiz mahathir n s usual d blame game...he says it's x his fault but tunku abdul rahman's fault...All for d sake of power n money...it's sad coz in d end we r d victims..d REAL MALAYSIANS...

The so-called TOP BRASS is having coffee n planning how to 'milk' us all of more money...Nvr cared for d ppl so y start now rite...so here's to all of u ministers/BN f*ckers....:stupid::thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::thefinger:


Nope. But if I had to choose to trust him or BN, I will choose to trust him.

I agree with everything you guys say, our police is well trained, our army is ready. But they can't do squat if there's no orders from the top.

I mean, these terrorists didn't just teleport into our country. Who was guarding the borders? Oh wait, the BN government was inviting every Tom, Dick and Hairy over and giving them IC so they can vote for BN right?
 
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