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[Raymond.YBS]

Hi Kendiriwan and Izzo,
Thanks for the sharing.
Need some opinion again, how does my current adjustable suspension compare to installing a sport absorber combine with sport spring?
Will the effect be stiff and jumpy like my current adjustable?
Have you heard about a brand of performance sport absorber and sport spring call Proride?
Hope you could share again.
Thanks.

 

[Izso]

Hi Kendiriwan and Izzo,
Thanks for the sharing.
Need some opinion again, how does my current adjustable suspension compare to installing a sport absorber combine with sport spring?
Will the effect be stiff and jumpy like my current adjustable?
Have you heard about a brand of performance sport absorber and sport spring call Proride?
Hope you could share again.
Thanks.

Izso la.. not Izzo

And yes to both questions.

Sport springs are shorter and stiffer, paired with short stroke sports absorbers means lesser travel and faster rebound, which usually result in bumpier road handling. The question is how much bumpier compared to hi/lo suspension.

Proride, APM Performax, GAB, SACHS, Eibach, Improve, etc all will result in bumpier ride compared to stock.

If you want cornering ability without sacrificing too much comfort - get bigger, lightweight rims and run on low profile and wider tyres. Then beef up the antiroll bars (front and back). That'll do wonders for your cornering already. It'll hurt the comfort level a little but not as much as adjustable suspension.

Having said that I don't know if they make fat antiroll bars for the Livina.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

That's why previously I changed to sports absorbers from GAB, in order not to sacrifice too much comfort, I maintain the stock springs.
If not it will be bumpier than before. This setup can be done. Handling surely better than stock but then at least u still have some comfort in it.

 

[vr2turbo]

Having said that I don't know if they make fat antiroll bars for the Livina.

Livina not meant to be mod that excessively.....

 

[Izso]

Livina not meant to be mod that excessively.....

Maybe the Sylphy bars can masuk. Rear 19mm ARB, undercarriage 4-pt bar and change the Livina front ARB to Sylphy one. Hehehehehhe

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That's why previously I changed to sports absorbers from GAB, in order not to sacrifice too much comfort, I maintain the stock springs.
If not it will be bumpier than before. This setup can be done. Handling surely better than stock but then at least u still have some comfort in it.

Pros and cons. Short stroke sports absorbers with full length springs means the absorbers or springs will be very likely worn faster. Or was it the other way around. Either way I doubt you'll get too much performance improvement compared to full swap.

Ajustables hi/lo/soft/hard with 30+ damper settings with bodyshift laaaaaaaaaa.. everything else is inferior.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Maybe the Sylphy bars can masuk. Rear 19mm ARB, undercarriage 4-pt bar and change the Livina front ARB to Sylphy one. Hehehehehhe

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Pros and cons. Short stroke sports absorbers with full length springs means the absorbers or springs will be very likely worn faster. Or was it the other way around. Either way I doubt you'll get too much performance improvement compared to full swap.

Ajustables hi/lo/soft/hard with 30+ damper settings with bodyshift laaaaaaaaaa.. everything else is inferior.

Yup not much. Anyway the absorbers became soft after 1 1/2 years. So almost can say back to square one.

 

[vr2turbo]

Maybe the Sylphy bars can masuk. Rear 19mm ARB, undercarriage 4-pt bar and change the Livina front ARB to Sylphy one. Hehehehehhe

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Pros and cons. Short stroke sports absorbers with full length springs means the absorbers or springs will be very likely worn faster. Or was it the other way around. Either way I doubt you'll get too much performance improvement compared to full swap.

Ajustables hi/lo/soft/hard with 30+ damper settings with bodyshift laaaaaaaaaa.. everything else is inferior.

My fully adjustable all the while pretty stiff ride. Today ferry 5 cartons of lube to my mechanic, the car damn stable and nice ride......hahahahahahaha

 

[Izso]

My fully adjustable all the while pretty stiff ride. Today ferry 5 cartons of lube to my mechanic, the car damn stable and nice ride......hahahahahahaha

Your kids and wife also never complain. That's a good sign!

Eh when you gonna fix that leaky pipe la? Exhaust so loud it's beyond ahbeng levels liao

 

[vr2turbo]

Your kids and wife also never complain. That's a good sign!

Eh when you gonna fix that leaky pipe la? Exhaust so loud it's beyond ahbeng levels liao

Got complain, that is why they use the Tiggo and Hyundai more.
But with 4 of us in the VR the ride not too bad......hahahahha

Actually the muffler exhaust also loud mah! But anyway, saw my mechanic yesterday, told him I am sending in on Monday. The problem is actually the exhaust manifold bolt has broken off. Probably need to take the head out to machine.....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

My fully adjustable all the while pretty stiff ride. Today ferry 5 cartons of lube to my mechanic, the car damn stable and nice ride......hahahahahahaha

Means u shud add 2 more inflated spare tyres in the boot.

 

[vr2turbo]

Means u shud add 2 more inflated spare tyres in the boot.

Cannot, 3 cartons in boot full already.....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

My fully adjustable all the while pretty stiff ride. Today ferry 5 cartons of lube to my mechanic, the car damn stable and nice ride......hahahahahahaha

Cannot, 3 cartons in boot full already.....

After finish using, refill all with water then keep in boot. Like that feel more stable with adjustables

 

[vr2turbo]

After finish using, refill all with water then keep in boot. Like that feel more stable with adjustables

Aiyah! like that might as well ferry some nice chicks at the back....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Aiyah! like that might as well ferry some nice chicks at the back....

Later your wife find some undies on your adjustables how? They left it there as souvenir

 

[Raymond.YBS]

Hi Izso and all Guru,
Thanks for your advise again.
The Antiroll Bar i'm using is 18mm and is the biggest.
Need your help to give me some of your opinion again.
I'm thinking about a few combination
1. Stock spring with sport absorber like GAB, tien and so on, will i get less jumpy and handling will improve and at the same time the comfort still remain in a reasonable manner?
2. Sport spring with normal gas absorber, will this also improve the handling and at the same time comfort will not sacrifice too much?
3. Base on what i have on the adjustable SSR300, if i adjust it higher and will the bumpy sensation be minimize to a reasonable comfort rate and handling also still as expected?
Please advise on my above idea.
Thanks.

 

[Izso]

Hi Izso and all Guru,
Thanks for your advise again.
The Antiroll Bar i'm using is 18mm and is the biggest.
Need your help to give me some of your opinion again.
I'm thinking about a few combination
1. Stock spring with sport absorber like GAB, tien and so on, will i get less jumpy and handling will improve and at the same time the comfort still remain in a reasonable manner?
2. Sport spring with normal gas absorber, will this also improve the handling and at the same time comfort will not sacrifice too much?
3. Base on what i have on the adjustable SSR300, if i adjust it higher and will the bumpy sensation be minimize to a reasonable comfort rate and handling also still as expected?
Please advise on my above idea.
Thanks.

1. Any sports absorber will have a fast rebound and since it's short stroke, don't expect any sort of comfort. Probably will be softer than your hi/lo but still hard. And paired with normal springs will probably shorten the lifespan of the absorber.

2. This might work, but probably will shorten the lifespan of the absorber as well. I don't know. I've been in my friends APM Performax springs + stock absorbers before, it's still bumping and too low until scraping everything. I'm used to bumpy so to me this is kinda ok. But it was similar feel to my hi/lo/soft/hard on medium hard settings.

3. Probably not. Suggest you consider a softer spring.

 

[YYC]

Hi Izso and all Guru,
Thanks for your advise again.
The Antiroll Bar i'm using is 18mm and is the biggest.
Need your help to give me some of your opinion again.
I'm thinking about a few combination
1. Stock spring with sport absorber like GAB, tien and so on, will i get less jumpy and handling will improve and at the same time the comfort still remain in a reasonable manner?
2. Sport spring with normal gas absorber, will this also improve the handling and at the same time comfort will not sacrifice too much?
3. Base on what i have on the adjustable SSR300, if i adjust it higher and will the bumpy sensation be minimize to a reasonable comfort rate and handling also still as expected?
Please advise on my above idea.
Thanks.

You can adjust the spring height to improve comfort or handling. ! A 10mm lift will give you better comfort, less bumpy. Try it.
I lifted mine 20mm and it ran over rough uneven road like nothing, very comfort. But hard driving/cornering suffered, wife complained about boat effects. So I dropped back.

 

[vr2turbo]

Hi Izso and all Guru,
Thanks for your advise again.
The Antiroll Bar i'm using is 18mm and is the biggest.
Need your help to give me some of your opinion again.
I'm thinking about a few combination
1. Stock spring with sport absorber like GAB, tien and so on, will i get less jumpy and handling will improve and at the same time the comfort still remain in a reasonable manner?
2. Sport spring with normal gas absorber, will this also improve the handling and at the same time comfort will not sacrifice too much?
3. Base on what i have on the adjustable SSR300, if i adjust it higher and will the bumpy sensation be minimize to a reasonable comfort rate and handling also still as expected?
Please advise on my above idea.
Thanks.

To me, any mod to your original suspension sure bound to be more bumpy.

As for the high/lo suspension where you adjust the springs for it to go high/lo, setting them low is more comfy. Set them high is compressing the springs therefore more bumpy.

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You can adjust the spring height to improve comfort or handling. ! A 10mm lift will give you better comfort, less bumpy. Try it.
I lifted mine 20mm and it ran over rough uneven road like nothing, very comfort. But hard driving/cornering suffered, wife complained about boat effects. So I dropped back.

Mine was the other way around....:hmmmm:

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

So bro if i were to install APM springs, but using SACHS absorbers, anything I need to take note on the setting?

 

[stupidcar]

Got complain, that is why they use the Tiggo and Hyundai more.
But with 4 of us in the VR the ride not too bad......hahahahha

Actually the muffler exhaust also loud mah! But anyway, saw my mechanic yesterday, told him I am sending in on Monday. The problem is actually the exhaust manifold bolt has broken off. Probably need to take the head out to machine.....

Buy a used welding machine and DIY!