Wira absorber

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  1. STR

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    hi, everyone..im looking to change my absorbers..looking for performance, and not into comfort..so, should i get the adjustables?which brand should i go for?the ride is wira a/b 1.5 SE..Budget is around 1k..What else should i take into considerations when im changing my abs?n im not interested in lowering my car, i want the same level of gap between the fender and the tyre. Im still a noobie in this topic, so my questions may not make sense to u. Please explain to me if theres anything wrong in my post.TQ in advance. :biggrin:
     
  2. ken yeang

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    the budget is rather low for performance usage, even for halfcut item.
     
  3. STR

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    owh...ok then...how much would it cost to get a performance absorber?and what kind of absorber can i get under that budget? :driver:
     
  4. sanekit

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    1k budget can go for taiwan/gombak made Mine's hilo body shift coilovers. I'm using those on my wira sedan at the moment. Got it from Sato Auto Acc at Puchong for RM830 with GST. Installed it last Saturday. Since you're not looking for comfort, I guess this will work fine for you. No need to compress the spring to adjust the height coz you have the body shift function. Preload can be set accordingly as well without messing with the height. So far handling is good except for minor bounce on uneven road when driving more than 110kmj. But I think it's due to the suspension still new and haven't really set in yet. Pictures attached are my ride after installation. I set it a bit higher yesterday coz it's too low for me.

    Anyway, you can check out their ad on mudah here - http://www.mudah.my/Gab+Waja+Gen2+Wira+Persona+Adjustable+SoftHard-44266094.htm
    They have other outlets as well.
     

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  5. Izso

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    For 1k budget, an alternative to coilovers is to go PRS and have them reinject or adjust your stock absorbers to be stiffer. That'll be roughtly RM230 an absorber and they mod it, it'll be serviceable

    Alternatively for that kinda budget, you can afford to buy the HWL ones with a bit of a topup or just buy the hi/lo suspension which in the long run isn't really too beneficial. Just make sure it has bodyshift.
     
  6. STR

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    Mine's are the same brand as GAB series?? cause the link u posted redirected to GAB post in mudah...Whats preload?What else should i look through when im changing my abs??cause i researched and found that i must check whether the shocks can be serviced or not, n so on...Are these shocks serviceable?:itsme:

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    Whats PRS?:confused: Whats the difference between HWL and hi/lo suspension? I cant understand this part "HWL ones with a bit of a topup or just buy the hi/lo suspension"..Y the hi/lo suspension isnt beneficial?HWL or the hi/lo suspension can be serviced? :wavey:
     
  7. Shinjite

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    PRS, HWL are brands
     
  8. sanekit

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    It's from the same company that distribute GAB here. Mudah link just for your reference to contact the number and ask for price. Then go to their shop and choose. My friend who did the installation said the coilovers can't be service but they really perform well and have 1 year warranty. As long as you don't go drive rally and hit all potholes in KL. :biggrin: Also, adjustable absorber servicing is quite pricey.
     
  9. vr2turbo

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    Having serviceable dampers are so much better. You can service and rebuilt when it has gone soft, leaking and so on, if not serviceable you need to buy new ones
     
  10. Izso

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    PRS is a brand. https://www.facebook.com/PRS-Trading-Sdn-Bhd-398844246797143/

    They customize suspension (and have their own coilovers as well) to suite the drivers requirements. Once they customize, it's serviceable. Price is comparative if not cheaper than buying coilovers.

    HWL is another suspension brand. Adjustable suspension consists primarily of 2 types :

    - High/low (can adjust height)
    - High/low/soft/hard (can adjust height and damping rate)

    You want stiff suspension then get coilovers. But since your budget is low consider customizing your stock suspension (PRS does that). If you get coilovers get the fully adjustable one (h/l/s/h) because high/low adjustability is quite limited and you'll get tired of the bumpiness after a while. It'll also affect how fast you'll go when driving on the highway. Overly stiff and you'll float a lot.

    Not to mention your Wira will develop a lot of new squeaky and rattling noises if the suspension is overly stiff.

    If it's cornering performance you want, consider a stiff anti-roll bar (front and back) instead. If it's suspension height you want then get coilovers. If it's stance and posing you want... you're in the wrong forum. :biggrin:
     
  11. STR

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    Will check it out bro. TQ very much.. :wavey:

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    I am looking for cornering performance, and i am looking forward to change my suspension since i can hear some scraping noise when i corner..i think the fender made contact with the tyre..not sure though :confused: BTW, i never change the absorber since i got the car..I checked out the PRS absorbers..n i saw the shop is located at selangor..im from penang..so i dont think i could make it..so, ill try to find the HWL over here..Anything else i should be aware of apart from bodyshift and serviceability? :driver:
     
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    A super hard suspension on smooth track is good, but when used on our potholes filled and bumpy Malaysian road is not good, especially if you hit a bump in a fast corner, sure will over steer....:bawling:
     
  13. y2188

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    I would suggest go for PRS as Izso suggested, currently running HWL hilo soft hard on my satria... it feels different in hot and cold weather by that i mean in the cold weather you can feel that is noticeably stiffer/bouncier...
     
  14. STR

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    Wont forget that... :biggrin:

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    Is there any other PRS outlet in malaysia?? :driver:
     
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    Nope, and i would instead suggest you to increase your budget by at least 50% more.
     
  16. vr2turbo

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    Kena poison, budget sure will go off......lol
     
  17. STR

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    i dont think i can increase it even more..but i will try to..what will u recommend me to get with that budget??

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    Hahahahaha... :biggrin:
     
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    If really cannot increase don't go overboard with it. Either delay and get a better set or once buy must live with it, because upgrading will cost you more.....haha
     
  19. Izso

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    STR dude, as a ex-driver of Wira Aeroback SE, and as a user of multiple different suspension setups, I can tell you one thing is you won't want an overly stiff suspension. I've tried :

    1. 8k front 6k rear Hi/lo adjustable suspension. Corner like you're on rails but like what vr2turbo said, only good on track. On normal roads if there's any uneven surface in the corner the car will skip and under or over steer. Very scary. Also, driving slow will be very interesting if you have a female friend with big boobs.

    2. 6k front 4k rear hi/lo adjustable suspension is neither here nor there. It's stiff with some minor body roll but it's not comfortable or good enough for hard cornering. Don't recommend this.

    3. hi/lo/soft/hard suspension - 8k front 4k rear. Perfect combination if you set the dampers right. Last time I had the BC Racing 30 click soft/hard suspension and it was set to 12 clicks front and 10 clicks rear for comfort setting and 28 clicks front and 22 clicks rear for track use. Very very good setup. Most expensive 'budget' setup.

    The last suggestion I have for you is probably (imho) the best. Get decent absorbers like the Monroe Reflex or just stick with stock Kayaba absorbers. Change to new Wira SE springs (make sure the absorbers are Wira SE absorbers too, they are not the same as 1.6 or 1.8 absorbers and 1.5 uses a small spring seat, so doesn't fit the Wira SE springs). The Wira SE front springs are very thick and slightly lowered height springs similar to the Wira 1.6/1.8 ones, except it's harder. The rear springs are the same as all other Wiras. Then invest in a GSR 22mm front anti roll bar then get the UltraRacing 19mm rear antiroll bar with Wira 1.6/1.8 rear lower arms. Don't weld supporting bars to your 1.5 arms cuz they'll snap.

    The stock absorbers + Wira SE springs should be about RM800 thereabouts.
    The GSR 22mm front ARB should be about RM250 halfcut
    The UR 19mm rear ARB should be about RM400+

    If you still have budget, use Superpro bushing throughout the entire car or at least change the arm bushes, ARB bushes and steering bush to PU.

    With this setup you'll have comfort and still be able to corner like a god. To properly corner without sacrifice on comfort, you'll bound to have some bodyroll but slight bodyroll is a good thing, it gives you more feel and lets you know when the tyres are about to give up and at the same time put less stress on the tyres. Too stiff suspension will rely very heavily on good grippy tyres.

    Lastly if your budget is sky high, Koni FSB + Eibach Prokit springs. The combination is seriously the best of both worlds. Koni has this twin chamber thing and uses only one chamber during normal driving. But once it's under stress (like heavy load during cornering) the 2nd chamber opens up stiffening the absorber. Meaning it's only hard when you need it to be. Eibach Prokit will lower your car nicely and still be relatively comfortable.

    Or if you are insane and want to spend shit loads of money (more than the cost of your car) then research the Bose suspension. Flat cornering and comfort all using very high tech gizmo wizardry.

    :biggrin:
     
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  20. vr2turbo

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    Told him the danger of poisoning......hahhahhahahahah:rofl:
     

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