Turbo Vs Vtec

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

If u compare engine benchmark, a simple 400m drage race, turbo will win in the same class engine displacement.

Engine power is about torque pull first, then only comes to peak power HP.

So if anyone here fails in modern-maths, yes SHUT THE FUCK UP !

How lame could u guys be, keep argueing pointlessly.......

Even a BOT Vios 1.5cc can beat a vtec.......

 

[D-IV]

BOT vios vs BOT vtec... both engine originally came from N/A. So putting a BOT on a vios only and not on a honda is a pointless comparison.

 

[boyzone]

NA engine weakness = torque is set at high rev.

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[SAO 6418]

If u compare engine benchmark, a simple 400m drage race, turbo will win in the same class engine displacement.

Engine power is about torque pull first, then only comes to peak power HP.

So if anyone here fails in modern-maths, yes SHUT THE FUCK UP !

How lame could u guys be, keep argueing pointlessly.......

Even a BOT Vios 1.5cc can beat a vtec.......

Gotcha....

 

[D-IV]

Small Displacement high revving = torque is set at high rpm
Big displacement low rev = torque is everywhere :proud:

 

[pentavalen]

saw thiz dude!
the really VTEC ever!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uN6Aahycf0

 

[todajas]

hua...hua...

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[WiiR4]

hua...hua...hua...nice 1 bro pentavalen...

to bro deacon...woo...chill a bit...this thread are not asking ppl to ketuk2 each others or bakar2 each others...just share an experience & discuss...yup! I know, to know who's power, just put 2 car on track...ur right, but what I mean is share some story here...this 2 engine are like Red Indian & Cowboy...Vampire & Warewolf...& etc, always rival...it is not like if I see a person driving DC5 I'll give a middle finger...no...I would say "bro nice ride..." if I had a chance...HONDA STILL A COOL CAR & FUN...it is up to individual thought to choice their own toys...chill & Thax ZTH fellas...

 

[D-IV]

Hi!!!:wavey:

I think it an old topic, just want to bring it back coz' I think it's a never ending issue...

I choose to join VTEC KILLER, that mean TURBO, first time when enter this motorsports arena & didn't have my own ride, I admire Honda, especially the "Civic" family, like EG6, EK9 plus "Intregra" family also nice, like DC2 & DC5, when my friend lean me his 2doors EF with B16A engine, hear the VTEC engine Roar, Prrangg...!!! & see the RPM rev till 9000 it's feel great, sorry to mention at that time I was studying & I'm not from wealthy family so my parents can't afford to buy me a car, after I finished my study, luckily I was a bit fast from my others clicks & I got a job, & I set a mission to buy myself a car, at the office got 2 person that is "kaki VTEC" always hang out with them & chit chat bout' car, days after days, I got annoying when they kept saying that TURBO for loser, they call it "Keta Cacat" "Keta Tak Sihat", my perception change, I think why must they said that, plus they said if U get a proton cars & put MITSU engine, if wira it still gonna be proton wira, yaa...they maybe right, but who care...! plus I think that convert cars is much more expensive to build from original made TURBO cars, still I'm not a person that have a lot of money, but I'm willing save for my ride, then I got myself a Proton Wira 1.5 sohc, it hurt me much when they make fun at me coz' when go out together my ride can't keep up with they VTEC, they start a gap between me & them, I started to fine "geng keta cacat" then 1 night 1 of my "geng keta cacat" came with his friend that drive Iswara VR4 RS, I got the opportunity to drive & I felt in love TURBO, Now I'm on my way to be a VTEC KILLER coz' my wira now got a new heart VR4 220, try to find RS but I couldn't be more patient, so just crab it from ZTH the marketpalce posting, now still on my way, anyway both has it own strenghs & weakness, just let go of my emotion & see what others opinion...sorry this thread a bit long...peace!!!

Reading back to the original topic. I think the people that made fun of his wira are the cause of his emotions and calling people with turbo equipped cars are loser and even worse calling it keta cacat or keta tak sihat made things worst. I think they are the small minded b-series owners and think their ride is the fastest in the world... they need to wake up and smell the fresh air.

 

[boyzone]

Where is Alvin24 ??
I think he is the one can tell u what is the turbo power...
even though with his old 4G91 BOT.
Btw, I drive Mivec RS in Satria chasis and I know that very clearly what is the limitation for NA 2 stages cam engine.
Of coz, ppl will claim that Vtec is stronger than Mivec... but what is the different ?
1.6 NA = 1.6 NA, not much different in my mind.
The main conclusion is depand on how much u throw into ur engine.
e.g: 1.6 stock or BOT engine vs 1.6 Vtec with RM 10k mod inside.

just my 0.0002 cents

 

[D-IV]

If there is a back to back dyno comparison of both engines, it'll be easier to spot where each makes its power. By literature the 1.6 MIVEC is 175hp vs 1.6 VTEC 160-170 depending on the model. Both have high cam lift system and are high RPM screamer. Put the 1.6 MIVEC on a 97-99 colt hatch, it'll probably be equally as fast as an EG6.

Well thats what i think anyway. My main conclusion is not to associate small displacement equipped with Turbo vs small displacement VTEC NA. How about we talk about small displacement engines with turbo's vs. those big 4.8-5 liter NA monsters.

 

[evoX2]

NA engine weakness = torque is set at high rev.

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But NA make it up with close gear ratio & final drive.

Sometimes it is not how much hp or torque you have in "paper", it's how much you can utilize it.
For example, stock evo 300hp vs stock dc5 200hp in 400m, can the 300hp blew the 200hp away by the 1/3 distance with the 100hp (1/3) superior? Then if put both car in track then the result will be different again.
Really no point arguing on both different technology & category. Just like comparing orange with apple.

 

[karl5511]

This issue should not been raised. In Sepang Drag Battle oso, they are not in the same category, so, reconsider about it. This kinda topic, would piss bro JinKL up....haha...

 

[D-IV]

This issue should not been raised. In Sepang Drag Battle oso, they are not in the same category, so, reconsider about it. This kinda topic, would piss bro JinKL up....haha...

+1 ....Best point of the week....

 

[mivec_mivec]

This issue should not been raised. In Sepang Drag Battle oso, they are not in the same category, so, reconsider about it. This kinda topic, would piss bro JinKL up....haha...

dunno if got open category...and more,if not in track,how bout on our local beloved traffic?sure if one vtec next to turbo sure got striking eyes over another i think...hehehehe

 

[WiiR4]

dunno if got open category...and more,if not in track,how bout on our local beloved traffic?sure if one vtec next to turbo sure got striking eyes over another i think...hehehehe

this is not an emotional statement...

but I always had that situation when my car beside Vtec car at traffic light...sometimes layan sometimes ignore jer...this morning also on my way to office, but not Vtec ar (dont want to always bout' Vtec, nnt Vtec owners marah...he...he...he...) it is proton tiara...I just cruise normally around 90km/h, suddenly the highway quite clear, only got 1 green tiara, he..he...then feel like want to boost my car but not like tarik giler2, just drop to 4th gear boost until 0.7 bar Ka-Ching!!! then back to normal in 5th gear, but accidentally I'm Ka-Ching beside the green tiara, he...he...me bad..., then the tiara maybe piss off and put the pedal to the metal, I'm just smile n dont want to layan, beside tiara maa...that I think far...far...different category, just let him go proudly...pis!

 

[D-IV]

Maybe the driver was only pressing 10% of the throttle

Might not know right... now that would be really scary

 

[EGNINE]

dont underestimate tiara bro ..got some powerfull tiara out there...

 

[WiiR4]

yeah ur right bro, but that one I 100% sure standard one, yeah I did see one powerful tiara at bdr baru bangi, gsr turbo, mivec, vtec all can follow close or half car...

 

[aul_84]

hua...hua...

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