The mighty 2jz or The legendary RB26

[shark79]

the sound of both engines....2j ,rb26......the rb26 has more grunt(sound) due to its 6 throttle....set up

 

[renxun]

damm ... kyoshos.... u get your 2j half cut at 3k only???? can help me source one as my spare ka..?

i know im not up to par yet to comment .. as im only using 1jz. my latest project was not dont YET atm. so with everything bolted up on my 1jz im running near 500whp on pump fuel and unopened internals. i just did turbo, management, fuelings, stronger clutch to hold and thermal handling upgrades. However with everything still the same i knw it would be very xpensive if i go aftermarket internals for bigger boost and higher rev range.

So cheapest way is to go for the 1.5j option where i only need to change to new 2jz timing belt, new piston rings,aftermarket main and conrod bearings and a little bit of work to the water piping works n xhaust where the existing turbo will have to sit abit higher and a bigger turbine housing. else i will have a low torque monster with the xtra displacement to blow my "snail" and its cheap as Fcuk for an engine kosong and some little bits here and there.. i have my finger crossed as im not sure at what whp i can run with this setup. but i hope i can run at about additional 50whp frm my previous setup. i know its not big number for some people for my lousy old toyota car which already aged at near 30years old it can be pretty scary on my side to handle too

although its only a 2jz bottom i hope that i have the right to give opinion on 2jz behalf. rb26 i have 0 knowledge as so far only 2 person i knew is using it where one is remain stock and another one had some mild mods in it.. so i reli couldnt comment anything. problem wise i dun see any trouble with them running as i still see them driving around town picking up chicks almost everynight

Bump: damm ... kyoshos.... u get your 2j half cut at 3k only???? can help me source one as my spare ka..?

i know im not up to par yet to comment .. as im only using 1jz. my latest project was not dont YET atm. so with everything bolted up on my 1jz im running near 500whp on pump fuel and unopened internals. i just did turbo, management, fuelings, stronger clutch to hold and thermal handling upgrades. However with everything still the same i knw it would be very xpensive if i go aftermarket internals for bigger boost and higher rev range.

So cheapest way is to go for the 1.5j option where i only need to change to new 2jz timing belt, new piston rings,aftermarket main and conrod bearings and a little bit of work to the water piping works n xhaust where the existing turbo will have to sit abit higher and a bigger turbine housing. else i will have a low torque monster with the xtra displacement to blow my "snail" and its cheap as Fcuk for an engine kosong and some little bits here and there.. i have my finger crossed as im not sure at what whp i can run with this setup. but i hope i can run at about additional 50whp frm my previous setup. i know its not big number for some people for my lousy old toyota car which already aged at near 30years old it can be pretty scary on my side to handle too

although its only a 2jz bottom i hope that i have the right to give opinion on 2jz behalf. rb26 i have 0 knowledge as so far only 2 person i knew is using it where one is remain stock and another one had some mild mods in it.. so i reli couldnt comment anything. problem wise i dun see any trouble with them running as i still see them driving around town picking up chicks almost everynight

Bump: damm ... kyoshos.... u get your 2j half cut at 3k only???? can help me source one as my spare ka..?

i know im not up to par yet to comment .. as im only using 1jz. my latest project was not dont YET atm. so with everything bolted up on my 1jz im running near 500whp on pump fuel and unopened internals. i just did turbo, management, fuelings, stronger clutch to hold and thermal handling upgrades. However with everything still the same i knw it would be very xpensive if i go aftermarket internals for bigger boost and higher rev range.

So cheapest way is to go for the 1.5j option where i only need to change to new 2jz timing belt, new piston rings,aftermarket main and conrod bearings and a little bit of work to the water piping works n xhaust where the existing turbo will have to sit abit higher and a bigger turbine housing. else i will have a low torque monster with the xtra displacement to blow my "snail" and its cheap as Fcuk for an engine kosong and some little bits here and there.. i have my finger crossed as im not sure at what whp i can run with this setup. but i hope i can run at about additional 50whp frm my previous setup. i know its not big number for some people for my lousy old toyota car which already aged at near 30years old it can be pretty scary on my side to handle too

although its only a 2jz bottom i hope that i have the right to give opinion on 2jz behalf. rb26 i have 0 knowledge as so far only 2 person i knew is using it where one is remain stock and another one had some mild mods in it.. so i reli couldnt comment anything. problem wise i dun see any trouble with them running as i still see them driving around town picking up chicks almost everynight

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

renxun: dun tipu.. 1jz ..2jz all useless engine...1.5J lagi teruk... don... pls look away

Bump: renxun: dun tipu.. 1jz ..2jz all useless engine...1.5J lagi teruk... don... pls look away

 

[shark79]

bro share la some info...dontla have the whole pie fr urself...

Bump: bro share la some info...dontla have the whole pie fr urself...

 

[renxun]

ya .. lets keep the price low...so i can blow more engine in future

Bump: ya .. lets keep the price low...so i can blow more engine in future

 

[khoyos]

the engine is affordable. market price for non-vvti engine kosong is around 2.5k n engine lantai around 3k complete with wiring, ecu, twin turbos etc.

but the gearbox is farking expensive n too hard to find. if i come across any for sale cheaps, for sure i'll buy n keep as spare...

 

[cmng]

friend.. why you need to keep a spare since the gearbox rarely have issue ?

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

cmng: his car power gila.. so always fuckup gearboxes...

Bump:

ya .. lets keep the price low...so i can blow more engine in future

Bump: ya .. lets keep the price low...so i can blow more engine in future

if u can blow it la

 

[cosmicgate]

LOL renxun

 

[khoyos]

friend.. why you need to keep a spare since the gearbox rarely have issue ?

i had issue with my 1st gearbox, now 2nd gearbox running sweet n smooth. better be safe than sorry, keep 1 as extra.

 

[shark79]

bro where to source 2jz auto 1/2 cut......aristo /supra bod?

 

[khoyos]

bro where to source 2jz auto 1/2 cut......aristo /supra bod?

there's 1 in evolution autoparts, along the road from bukit jelutong/kg subang heading towards sg buloh. the chop shop owner also driving vvti aristo hehe...

 

[JaHaX]

that vvti vertex edition aristo ... bring back sweet memories ... huhuhu

 

[renxun]

cmng: his car power gila.. so always fuckup gearboxes...

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if u can blow it la

haha.... performance parts are pluged in as early as around 50k mieledge. now its already 125k km... overheated 2 times (temperature raises till 3 quarter on gauge) when water hose burst and the metal gasket still intact... how eh...? 2.2bar using to4z on stock internal also cant even burn conrod bearing when force it to 8k rpm most of the time.

haiyo... hard la... no sign of car "eating" engine oil untill today ... i tink i need to put some sand in my engine oil to blew it la..

oh please dont buy the JZ.....they will bored you cuz not much performance part you can buy to boost your confidents. they are too cheap that its too good to be true. cheap thing no good. good thing no cheap. it will bored you cuz you got no reason to open up the engine and see wat is inside. :sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:

 

[wira4life]

I personally love 2JZ combined with 1JZ. damn power. can play with lamborghini, ferari all.

but personally i love skyline with RB26DETT ( sound like a beast, big like a lorry, stable like a aircraft )

If can , i would buy skyline gts n put 2JZ. heheheheheheheheheh............

 

[gobiz]

2JZ vs RB26 is the age old battle.... like battle between good and evil (which one good which one evil is up to you )

But there is one interesting development that will help 2JZ that has come from Texas of all places....it's called compound turbocharging.

 

[joethurr]

I personally love 2JZ combined with 1JZ. damn power. can play with lamborghini, ferari all.

but personally i love skyline with RB26DETT ( sound like a beast, big like a lorry, stable like a aircraft )

If can , i would buy skyline gts n put 2JZ. heheheheheheheheheh............

dude, u personally love both?

 

[supracosworth]

Hi, my first post here just to share my experience as I've dabbled in both for the past 10 years as an owner but not so much as a tuner. I've owned two R32 and two R33 (one with GT2530s got totalled while playing with a 996 turbo unfortunately) and have owned both the pre-vvti and vvti 6 speed VVti. I still keep a lightly mod R33, a VVTi 6 speed and an Aristo VVti.

Just on the engine, with basic mods, the 2JZ especially in VVTi form wins hands down. Torque is available in gobs from 2000 rpm onwards. A well tuned RB with R34 BB turbos develop power from around 3,500rpm and I stress well tuned as none of the second hand RBs I purchased come "well tuned". Invariably it costed me quite a bit just to find out whether its the AFM, the FPR, the fuel pump, the electronics, the air leaks, the BOVs that's costing me power. The supras run an equally complicated (if not more complicate) sequential turbo system but surprisingly, they are never hard to trouble shoot. The RB is just a delicate creature that needs everything exactly matched in order to perform. The 2JZ on the other hand just pulls and pulls so long as you give it fuel and spark. Even the VVTi running AFMs never give me any sorrow though these are so much more difficult to tune due to the VVTi system. The old non-VVTi that runs MAP is just a tuner's wet dream.

Then there's the matter of cost of mods and second hand parts. The 2JZ VVTi shares the same engine with the Aristo 161 and the 2JZ without VVTi shares the same engine with the old Aristo 141. If God forbid you somehow manage to blow a 2JZ block, a replacement engine from an auto Aristo can be as cheap as a late model MX5 engine (in HOng KOng anyway)! The RB? Forget it, full rebuilt, no less. Mega bucks.

But here comes the interesting part, I love my R33 more than my Supra! It boils down to connection with the car. My biggest gripe about the supra is the steering. It's almost like driving the Aristo, the front end floats and I never feel connected to the road. It's a competent chassis and it can get thrown around just as fast as a GTR but there's simply no connection. The Supra (FMIC, 1.2 bar) accelerates so smoothly you get to 260kph in a blink with no drama. The R (R34 BB turbos, Tomei Poncam A, Tomei System 3 ECU, Nismo 555, N1 pumps, equal length downpipe) makes you feel every hp that comes out from the engine. Its not faster than the supra, no siree, but its certainly dramatic, the way it howls and barks and pulls when both turbo decides to spin. Every drive in the R is an event on its own whereas the supra can at times, feel "too competent" and bland if there's such a thing. Only thing I hate about the GTR's handling is the way torque suddenly comes to the front wheels especially with the larger turbos. Not sure if it's just bad setup on my car but it's given me a couple of big scares when the 2530s come on mid corner and it suddenly starts to "torque steer". Anyway, sorry for rambling but I'm a big fan for both engines!:proud:

 

[reintel]

2JZ vs RB26DETT - 2JZ wins in term of reliability and over engineered
BCNR32/33/34 vs Supra - GTR AWD wins

My observation and opinion.

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

2JZ vs RB26DETT - 2JZ wins in term of reliability and over engineered
BCNR32/33/34 vs Supra - GTR AWD wins

My observation and opinion.

Bring your 32,33 or 34 out to meet me...but if u're talking anything less than 1km.. then u go meet my friend leonard.. bwahahahaha

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But here comes the interesting part, I love my R33 more than my Supra! It boils down to connection with the car. My biggest gripe about the supra is the steering. It's almost like driving the Aristo, the front end floats and I never feel connected to the road. It's a competent chassis and it can get thrown around just as fast as a GTR but there's simply no connection.

i totally agree on this point... but to improve it, u need at least the front tyre size of 255/35/18 or 255/40 and above... else u'll feel the float..