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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BlackNote" data-source="post: 1063710510" data-attributes="member: 55456">Helo all, hehee...@Dinmsab - that's why i said it's good to have a new challenger... Plus, both products can only be proof as good if both have a good drivers.. Then, there we can see the difference characteristics between both products...@Karl_Razlie - i've played with myvi 1.3, and myvi 1.3 with BOT.. Each car give different results. 1.3 with BOT got better pick-up but still can catch in 2nd gear... Engine to weight ratio will not make any differences unless the driver can utilise and use it very vey well... I've played with old satria fitted with 1.8 turbo engine about 3months ago, still he cannot go far from me at pick-up..distance was just 15metres... At long range race, of course i can tapao him...remember, he has turbo and still he have to take care of his turbo... Once again, it's good to have new challenger so that u know u're in which category.@Kambing69 - both can give him a good results... Mine, i changed the tail-pipe 1st, then extractor, then spark plugs, then spark plug cables, then ACP, then LCP, then setting cam degree, then dyno to see results, then customs mid-pipe, then muffler, then dyno again to make comparisons, then changed muffler, then dyno, then tune with basic tuning, lastly, dyno again... For me, an impressive 129.5whp have been achieved with those upgrades or about 150+hp on crank.. Ur friend can tune ECU 1st, but if want to feel bit by bit differences, he can change item 1st... It is good to know what is your own car ability and its performance with bit by bit upgrades so that you will know what is the best and what is not for your car. My car still with standard ECU settings and it gives me happy days... Wonder if i upgrade the ECU setting.....then i will have a big smile...Well, all above is just my opinion... Different person, different styles... Just want to share here so that eveyone will know....<img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin    :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /></blockquote>

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