Satria 1.3 and 1.6 body got any different?

i not plan for race or rally but there is some issue on my car which seem not strong enuf n a bit flexible... current bar installed is front 4point bar and rear 3point bar by ultraracing... rear have a standard 1.8cc antirollbar and cheap rear below stabilizer bar.. all suspension is stock 1.8cc and front spring already cut 1layer to balance for rear and front..

the issue is, while i park my car at unbalance area as a hump of slope which ONE front tire higher than other 3 tyre, my rear bonet and door already out of balance and align... so far my car never have any heavy accident n no rust on below chassis or roof... i dont think under chassis UR bar could solve the issue and foam is not rigid.. maybe could use kevlar or fiberglass but never found it..

FOAM ISNT RIGID???

Google up AUTOFOAM from KL Auto. See what people have to say from their own experiences. Or you could go visit him in KL, tell him how it doesnt work. He'll have a lot to say haha. I used this on my own car PERSONALLY after anaccident. From squeaks all over, to no squeaks. Not just that, it can outcorner a GC8 now. (But yalah im using TiTan coilovers, that helps too LOL)

Seriously you should read more on chassis foaming, even JUN racing uses foaming. You dont know what sorta foam dont say lah :biggrin:.

Foam infact is stronger than UR bars since it fills up all the hollow points in the chassis. UR bars just TIE them together so they dont flex left and right so much.

The fact you use chopped springs and you dont even know how UR underchassis bars and chassis specific foaming works already says something about you. You even know how welding strengthens a car meh?

Srsly lah read more on things that actually work, not... chopped springs.
 
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i read in their web say that the foam still could compress but only a little changes... so it means not rigid compares with kevlar or fiberglass.. but i agreed that it could eliminate squeaking noise...

so, from ur opinion foam is better than UR bars? since they provide 10yrs warranty, i would like to try it out on my old satria.. but do u know any shop in muar provide that service??

i not try to use adjustable abs n spring due i'm not intend to race n my car usually entering estate, bouncing road such as felda nitar and jemaluang.. to using that kind of suspension would reduce my speed and below chassis would touching the road... i chop my front spring is just to balance the height between front and rear but it still looks like standard n not sporty... safety is better than sporty...
 
i read in their web say that the foam still could compress but only a little changes... so it means not rigid compares with kevlar or fiberglass.. but i agreed that it could eliminate squeaking noise...

so, from ur opinion foam is better than UR bars? since they provide 10yrs warranty, i would like to try it out on my old satria.. but do u know any shop in muar provide that service??

i not try to use adjustable abs n spring due i'm not intend to race n my car usually entering estate, bouncing road such as felda nitar and jemaluang.. to using that kind of suspension would reduce my speed and below chassis would touching the road... i chop my front spring is just to balance the height between front and rear but it still looks like standard n not sporty... safety is better than sporty...

errr..fiberglass wasn't so rigid....if still want to make rigid fiberglass it would be much heavier that it would overcome the goodness of that rigidity u need...

as for carbon fiber...so far there's not many bolt-on carbon fiber bodypart available....and still there's no way u can replace our common unibody chasis that made from steel with carbon fiber....even if there's carbon fiber chasis upgrade kit was the same part as UR or any other bars need to be screwed on...

just like LWWagon says about bars and foam....bars is for location where u can bolt-on....where foam treat the area where no bar can improve (*unless it was full rollcage)...and since u don't want rollcage then it is good way to try foam...


BTW, not all adjustable suspension are rock hard....its just u need to choose one that suits your need....and one question....from what reference did you measure your front and rear height???from wheelarch gap or from lower part of chasis?? coz from my point of view most proton car got lower arch at rear compared to the front and when u equal front arch gap with rear it creates "diving" nose in front.......but its just my opinion... :adore:
 
if rollcage is become legal for on road, it would be my 1st choice coz it only below 1k per set.. so, i'll try to use foam n hopefully could solve my car issue...

the height measured on the arch n i know that stock setting front higher than rear.. but before cut the front spring, the gap on rear is 3inch but front is 5inch... n while driving on hump, the car feels like want to jump!!!
 
i read in their web say that the foam still could compress but only a little changes... so it means not rigid compares with kevlar or fiberglass.. but i agreed that it could eliminate squeaking noise...

so, from ur opinion foam is better than UR bars? since they provide 10yrs warranty, i would like to try it out on my old satria.. but do u know any shop in muar provide that service??

i not try to use adjustable abs n spring due i'm not intend to race n my car usually entering estate, bouncing road such as felda nitar and jemaluang.. to using that kind of suspension would reduce my speed and below chassis would touching the road... i chop my front spring is just to balance the height between front and rear but it still looks like standard n not sporty... safety is better than sporty...

Fiberglass is FREAKING FRAGILE. How the HECK does that help with rigidity? Kevlar alone cant be used, if its a kevlar + carbon mix its brittle, meaning you slam into something there goes your whole "reinforcement". Foam absorbs energy and dissapates it in an accident, however as a whole its solid to eliminate flex within chassis. 1 500ml bottle full of it can take my weigh (Im 78kgs btw), but if you put your finger in it and push it hard it can still compress.

Its all about how energy is spread, science lah wei. Why you think cars dont have FULL carbonfibre chassises? And another thing, Peugot, Mazda, Honda, they all use foaming as standard in their chassis from factory to stiffen & soundproof it. Whens the last time people used flimsy fragile fiberglass as a reinforcement OEM? Bodies can, bolted onto a chassis like the famous corvette.

The foam I swear to GOD its the best thing you put into your car. It quietens it and it feels like a rollcage, sorta. If you come down to PJ i'll let you drive my car personally. See for yourself if its stable.

Btw when you chop a spring, its not safe. Its like chopping your car shorter and saying it became stiffer?

I know theres one in SG I think. But either ways, if you want comfort, just change your shocks & springs, get proper uncut springs, soft if you want comfort, and stiff shocks. You'll get your stability & comfort.

Shocks control the movement of your wheel in terms of travel, stiffer or say... more firm ones, just smoothen it lah.

Like a BMW compared to merc, an old merc, the shocks and springs are very soft, thats why it has a comfy velvety ride. The BMW on the other hand, springs say medium, shocks are also medium. Thats why it "crashes" over deep potholes.

Its all about compromise either ways lah, if you want safety, the foam will do your car good. It fills hollow spaces all over where bars will never touch. AND hey, its water-resistant and fireproof! So once its filled, no water can go in = no rust entering the chassis :rofl:

The only downside I'll tell you now is price. Price and if you forget to remove your antenna cable, its gonna be permanantely shut in there like mine... *sighs* thats my fault for overlooking it though :smokin:

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if rollcage is become legal for on road, it would be my 1st choice coz it only below 1k per set.. so, i'll try to use foam n hopefully could solve my car issue...

the height measured on the arch n i know that stock setting front higher than rear.. but before cut the front spring, the gap on rear is 3inch but front is 5inch... n while driving on hump, the car feels like want to jump!!!

You know full rollcages, if you just bolt on, they still can flex. The mounting may not be able to cope with the stiffness of the cage. However WELDING it in right, now thats strong. Its adding more metal to the unibody chassis.

It jumps because you got rid of the part of the spring thats supposed to stop the bouncing :rofl:. Springs compress to a certain level, you cut that part off it doesnt stop. And there we go, bouncyyyyy!

I suggest just get heavy-duty or sport shocks with OEM springs, it'll feel great. I used to have them on my wagon as a first mod, was comfier than ori but it didnt last long... GAB.
 
since u had done on ur car, are they need to fill in the bottom chassis? i plan to complete all package..

anyway, fiberglass is fragile if built in a thin layer.. but once become thick, it would be strong... example as a lidi... fiberglass, kevlar and carbonfiber use a same concept but different material.. it mixed between liquid and solid... and also concrete for buildings...
 
ah..i've stated fiberglass properties earlier...

yes u can make it thicker to become tougher than steel but the weight alone eliminate the toughness advantage.. :biggrin:
 
since u had done on ur car, are they need to fill in the bottom chassis? i plan to complete all package..

anyway, fiberglass is fragile if built in a thin layer.. but once become thick, it would be strong... example as a lidi... fiberglass, kevlar and carbonfiber use a same concept but different material.. it mixed between liquid and solid... and also concrete for buildings...

Yeah they did everything, whole frame front to back, all the frames around the hatch. Basically the whole perimeter of the car :sleep:

Haha but how heavy would thick fiberglass be? It wouldnt make sense to use it once its so thick, its heavy too y'know :rofl:.

Kevlar isnt used in buildings, for all I know its used in bulletproof vests. Carbonfibre... its used on so many things lah. Even the NASA space shuttle uses it, thats where it originated anyway :rolleyes: .
 

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