New Tires : Front or Rear

[6UE5t]

I always change all 4 tires coz I rotate every 15-20k kms (except with my current car coz I'm using staggered sizes). Anyway if I change just 2 tires, I'd usually put them at the front because I'd want that responsive steering and better braking even though it might not be the safer choice due to more risk of oversteer.

 

[twistedichc]

this is what i got from my spare tyre

wifey lenovo wit tapatalk

 

[vr2turbo]

this is what i got from my spare tyre

wifey lenovo wit tapatalk

Fuh! Sime Monza and coming 10years....
165/60R12 got not 165/55R12....Have Sime Astar now......

 

[Nats autoparts]

new tire will always put at the front no matter what car layout it is
ff/fr/4wd/mr

reason...

understeer - your life will be fxxked no matter how good you are , you cant save it

oversteer - life is at your hand and your foot , sense your accl properly with control skill of your hand and you will pass the ultimate test

 

[vr2turbo]

new tire will always put at the front no matter what car layout it is
ff/fr/4wd/mr

reason...

understeer - your life will be fxxked no matter how good you are , you cant save it

oversteer - life is at your hand and your foot , sense your accl properly with control skill of your hand and you will pass the ultimate test

But for novice, understeer, lift off accl can control dy, oversteer mean gone loh.....

 

[gothculture]

my rear is light too. but front super heavy makan very fast so usually i just replace front since my front tires are cheaper than my rear - change more often = lagi makan duit so gotta use cheaper tires than d rear lol

 

[vr2turbo]

my rear is light too. but front super heavy makan very fast so usually i just replace front since my front tires are cheaper than my rear - change more often = lagi makan duit so gotta use cheaper tires than d rear lol

You use front and rear different tyre size then this topic not for you. You can change front for front, and rear for rear only........hahhahahhaa

 

[dkny]

Safety view : New tyre should fit to rear, if anything slip, front still able to steer back, while rear cant.
Eco view : Front wear faster, if new tyre fit rear, then u have to change another 2 tyre for front very soon.

 

[Waiora_ProTuner]

Front engine front wheel drive = new tyre at front..

old time argument...

 

[C99D-MMC5537]

I dont care what ever theory any expert made. I strongly believe on my own driving experiences. My opinion, newer tyre should always be at front. In most oversteer case due to "lesser thread tyre" (older tyre) put on rear is when u overspeed over water pond at sharp corner. In normal straight road, the front tyre is used to cut over water pond and it will created a temporary "longkang" for rear tyre to go through it. One more thing, front tyre also steer-able and this wayer pond will bring a force to steering wheel and make it difficult to control (especially for those boy-racer who sit really far from steering wheel and hold the steering with straight hand like fast n furious movie's hero style).

 

[stupidcar]

I dont care what ever theory any expert made. I strongly believe on my own driving experiences. My opinion, newer tyre should always be at front. In most oversteer case due to "lesser thread tyre" (older tyre) put on rear is when u overspeed over water pond at sharp corner. In normal straight road, the front tyre is used to cut over water pond and it will created a temporary "longkang" for rear tyre to go through it. One more thing, front tyre also steer-able and this wayer pond will bring a force to steering wheel and make it difficult to control (especially for those boy-racer who sit really far from steering wheel and hold the steering with straight hand like fast n furious movie's hero style).

I agree. And mostly in city driving somemore, most braking is done at the front.

 

[vr2turbo]

I agree. And mostly in city driving somemore, most braking is done at the front.

Braking, yes more in front but the rear locks easier. If rear bald more easy to skid.....my car no abs ok....hahhahahahhaa

 

[Waiora_ProTuner]

if bald put anywhere also dangerous...bar the spare tyre..

the point is less thread located and the tyre which requires less works..

 

[Izso]

This argument again?

Knnccbbq. Change all 4 when 1 or 2 is worn.

Enough of story.

 

[vr2turbo]

This argument again?

Knnccbbq. Change all 4 when 1 or 2 is worn.

Enough of story.

Not all can change all 4 like you....heh! heh!

The tyre manufacturer have already voiced out how their product is to be used, but being the owners who have purchased the tyres, they got the right to put where they want, whether new in front or rear. For us of course we follow manufacturer advise and will also recommend others to follow them. Whether they follow or not we cannot do anything else....

 

[stupidcar]

Braking, yes more in front but the rear locks easier. If rear bald more easy to skid.....my car no abs ok....hahhahahahhaa

I also no ABS ma Rear drum got ah?

 

[vr2turbo]

I also no ABS ma Rear drum got ah?

My Hyundai also rear drums , but that car not much power to speed. Now having better tyres then my VR....

 

[ixeo]

It is not possible to wear out only 2 tyres, unless you didn't rotate the tyres. So yeah, padan muka kau and change all 4 tyres.

 

[Izso]

It is not possible to wear out only 2 tyres, unless you didn't rotate the tyres. So yeah, padan muka kau and change all 4 tyres.

Actually I do understand why people don't rotate. My father says it's cheaper to change 2 at a time rather than all 4.

Now when I think about it, is it more cost effective to change 2 at a time or rotate which possibly makes the tyres last longer?

 

[ixeo]

Actually I do understand why people don't rotate. My father says it's cheaper to change 2 at a time rather than all 4.

Now when I think about it, is it more cost effective to change 2 at a time or rotate which possibly makes the tyres last longer?

It will ALWAYS be cheaper to change 2 at a time rather than all 4. Cause.. you're paying for 2 rather than 4.

But, if you rotate, good and even tyre wear, all 4 tyres will be in good condition, and can last longer. I used my PS3 for ~50k km. That's with rotation. I rotate every ~15k km give or take.

 

[Izso]

It will ALWAYS be cheaper to change 2 at a time rather than all 4. Cause.. you're paying for 2 rather than 4.

But, if you rotate, good and even tyre wear, all 4 tyres will be in good condition, and can last longer. I used my PS3 for ~50k km. That's with rotation. I rotate every ~15k km give or take.

"cost effective" la.. I didn't say cheaper. If rotating can last longer and really properly utilize the tyre then that's cost effective enough for me.

Question : Would you rotate a directional pattern tyre even if it means mounting it reverse?

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

"cost effective" la.. I didn't say cheaper. If rotating can last longer and really properly utilize the tyre then that's cost effective enough for me.

Question : Would you rotate a directional pattern tyre even if it means mounting it reverse?

I so far only rotated once in 2 years if i recall correctly. or max twice. After Vr2 advice not necessary to rotate if all 4 tyres threadwear wears off quite evenly which surprisingly my kelisa tyres wears off the same for front 2 and rear.

Tyres lasted longer than expected despite some hard cornering from me once awhile.

 

[ixeo]

"cost effective" la.. I didn't say cheaper. If rotating can last longer and really properly utilize the tyre then that's cost effective enough for me.

Question : Would you rotate a directional pattern tyre even if it means mounting it reverse?

You did say cheaper, then you said cost effective

Front to back, back to front, will mount reverse meh? Only if you do a cross rotating that occurs right. Then got to remove tyre and re-mount.

By right should have even wear on the tyre if everything is normal, for a street car.

 

[vr2turbo]

Actually I do understand why people don't rotate. My father says it's cheaper to change 2 at a time rather than all 4.

Now when I think about it, is it more cost effective to change 2 at a time or rotate which possibly makes the tyres last longer?

Actually got rotate but one time only, when fit new to the rear you rotate the rear to the front mah!..haha

Cost effective or not, both have pros and cons. Most rotate because front wear shoulder and rear wear center. As I told bro. SF if front and rear wear is good why pay for rotation. Most shop charge even to rotate, then if balancing out, you need to balance and quite many I know do alignment also. Like most say last 50k km, means at least rotate 4 times. 2 tyre change you already save 4 times rotation and balancing RM.

Cost of changing tyre is not cheaper, but paying extra like rotation cost more. Change two at a time is cheaper but got to pay twice so is the same cost.

Did mention many times already the pros and cons.
It is more to the safety aspect for me.
4 tyre change you rotate until all 4 tyres bald. Period when 4 tyres bald, is danger period. If change 2 at a time, at any time you will still have two tyres with thread pattern....

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"cost effective" la.. I didn't say cheaper. If rotating can last longer and really properly utilize the tyre then that's cost effective enough for me.

Question : Would you rotate a directional pattern tyre even if it means mounting it reverse?

If both sides wear inside, or both side wear outside, like bro. ixeo mention, remove tyre, re-mount them, then cross left to right, so the direction still points forward...

 

[g88]

all this years i never experience or do TIRES rotation at all......only did what every 2nd time of changing the FRONT, i will change rear ONCE....

till recent, 1st time experience authorised service center swap left to right for me to fix 'lari left allignment' but then still cannot, then only he do swap from front to rear....

i think i wanna do this again ;)