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Message: <blockquote data-quote="riggy" data-source="post: 207371" data-attributes="member: 5465">Hi again,One problem (or good thing) about being a manufacturer is that manufacturers can make bulk purchases, hence get large discounts. However, I am actually wondering what the case is with proton (as a whole..not the r3 project only). Take for example the SR4 seats. Do you know the only real difference is the way the stiching/pattern is sewn compared to the sr3? The width is almost the same ( so they'd be as 'comfortable' as the sr3s). You're actually paying so much for a more rounded headrest, and some fancy stiching. So the question about why proton specified the sr4 is quite a mystery. Motorsports div should have made it more of a pure race car than what it is. Say for example the management of proton had gone to the motorsport div and said "oh great motorsport head of proton, here is the budget for you to make a race spec satria for us to sell to the public at large." "Sure, whats the budget?" asks the great head of proton motorsports."You have a ceiling of RM17,000 premium over the standard GTI" answers management.So they had RM17,000 (NOTE that in the sales price it says R3 package is around that figure). And what did they do? buy RM6,000.00 seats. looks like thats about close to 40% of the budget. Now, the question is, is 40% of the R3 budget sound reasonable when you could use the 40% on something that adds power, braking or handling? Conclusion to point 1, its not becoz of the manufacturer having a big headache. They put themselves into such a situation. I mean...aside from aluminium parts, why not spec a pair of racing cams with the money? cams cost at the most RM3000 a pair, why not send the head for gasflowed porting and polishing? i think labour on it would cost less than that. Why not send the bottom end for dynamic balancing? a lighter flywheel? lightweight crankshaft pulley? Instead of spending 40% of the budget on seats!???? seats should be around 20% of the equation.A conspricacy theory: someone made money specifying those seats. The directors of RECARO malaysia can report to their head honcos in Germany "herr big boss of good seats, guess what? We managed to CON-vince proton to use sr4 seats for their 150units limited edition car!" "wunderbar!" answers germany. There you have it. Its the VENDORS OF PROTON controlling the manufacturer...It should be the other way round. *note this is totally fiction, unless its true of course!*Now it is all this that makes me question the actual purpose of this exercise called the r3. I still think the purest, and best Proton from the wira, putra, satria stable was the Wira 1.8 made in 1996-1997. It had a chassis with extra welding spots like the LANCER GSR/evo 1 (WITHOUT the chicken pox look like on the R3 strut towers - why didn't they spec smoother looking weld spots? If a person with no idea of this they'd say the r3 was an accident car), a nice big wing for stability (it actually works), recaro njoys, momo, a very tunable mitsu 1.8 (note diff ecu, cam settings). And proton didnt have to try hard. its a classic all on its own (it already has cult status), I get 1.8 owners telling me about ppl asking them whether their car is for sale all the time.to quote faisal: "Why SR4?? man you people farny laa. we give premium parts don't want.. we give say too xpensive.. give cheap stuff complain..never can pls anyone" Honestly, Proton isn't giving, it is we consumers who have to pay for this premium parts. If it were 'giving', like the spirit of christmas, the r3 wouldnt cost RM77k..it should be 72k. more than 2 malaysian sen worthregards,</blockquote>

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