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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shiroitenshi" data-source="post: 1439854" data-attributes="member: 27518">Powerful? Are you kidding!? A tuned B16 (with all ammenities like power steering and air-cond) can probably achieve like... 130+hp at the wheels? (a real example of a dyno result)Mine is using the stock P30, with stock rev cut and speed cut somemore! I think the number is more like 120whp only lah! (never dynoed, never know for sure, but definitely less than the above)Anyway.. it's not that my car is powerful, more like the new cars all have sub 100whp, so it's feels easier to overtake other cars. Seriously, other countries, the cars are all above 100whp, and we get local or CKDs cars with less than 100whp.Of course, this is comparing with 1.3, 1.5, 1.6 litres. The 2.0 litre cars usually generate over 100whp.Still.. for power to weight ratio.. I think the old school civics (EF,EG,EK) balance it well.</blockquote>

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