My Next Upgrade: Suspension

[Izso]

Speed2horizon : dude... anything is more comfortable than stock FD2R suspension!

thanks guys for your advises..seem like i cant even change my suspension to adjustable for comfort ride..now, i think i want to install with shock absorber which is GAB,Hotbit for my sentra N16 and spring eibach pro-kit..is that ok..?? i heard alot of positive comment on eibach spring seems this spring are 100% from germany,rite..

The N16 is not a light car. So if you test this sort of combination make sure it's on another N16. But gotta agree though, original N16 is really soft and it'll be hard to get that sort of comfort and performance at the same time.

I just had a thought, if it's some cornering performance you're looking for, why not just stick with stock absorbers and springs, but upgrade to thicker larger antiroll bars? In my own car (and after spending thousands) I've tested a couple of combinations with the 'cheaper' options (meaning no Koni / Bilstein, etc) I found that upgrading from 19mm to 23mm front ARB and from no rear ARB to 16mm made a humongus difference in cornering performance. More so than rock hard suspension mainly because it was more predictable and controllable compared to hard suspension which relied heavily on good tyre grip. Right now I'm using Hotbits Silver together with a tonne of bars and stuff. I think the Hotbits Silver rebound rate is a little too soft for my liking.

 

[speed2horizon]

Speed2horizon : dude... anything is more comfortable than stock FD2R suspension!




The N16 is not a light car. So if you test this sort of combination make sure it's on another N16. But gotta agree though, original N16 is really soft and it'll be hard to get that sort of comfort and performance at the same time.

I just had a thought, if it's some cornering performance you're looking for, why not just stick with stock absorbers and springs, but upgrade to thicker larger antiroll bars? In my own car (and after spending thousands) I've tested a couple of combinations with the 'cheaper' options (meaning no Koni / Bilstein, etc) I found that upgrading from 19mm to 23mm front ARB and from no rear ARB to 16mm made a humongus difference in cornering performance. More so than rock hard suspension mainly because it was more predictable and controllable compared to hard suspension which relied heavily on good tyre grip. Right now I'm using Hotbits Silver together with a tonne of bars and stuff. I think the Hotbits Silver rebound rate is a little too soft for my liking.

That's right... It purely depends on what kind of "stock" u're comparing with...
And yes, arb is an option.
Btw, too...

 

[Jac83]

I'm a happy owner of bilstein b6 abs here. Personally i do not think bilstein abs are that expensive in comparing with tein, koni or even titan adjustable abs rather roughly on par or cheaper. I bought mine for 2.8k for a set of 4 abs and when pairing them with stock spring which are tend to be a little on the soft side, the whole setup balance up perfectly due to the bilstein abs tend to be on stiffer side compared to stock abs. As for eibach pro-kit, sorry to dissappoint but i do not think our current one which are marketed at about 1k+- for a set of 4 are made in germany. I'll say more likely some sort of conterfeit or 'asean type' made from taiwan or thailand. Pure eibach pro-kit made in germany cost roughly about 2k++ which are about the price of the bilstein b6 abs themselves. Anyway i can conclude bilstein abs worth every single penny as it is not too stiff nor too soft but just nice plus reliable. Thus no wonder bmw made it as oem abs to most of their car models.

 

[wan_k278]

BMW is continental cars category..I heard that bilstein is a good quality..after i review every comment and advise, even my own survey, the best for N16 are stock shock absorber there as APM..KYB not produce shock absorber for N16..So,*Speed2horizon*,where the Titan shop nearby Subang area..?? Sunway..??

 

[g4i8y0t]

I'm a happy owner of bilstein b6 abs here. Personally i do not think bilstein abs are that expensive in comparing with tein, koni or even titan adjustable abs rather roughly on par or cheaper. I bought mine for 2.8k for a set of 4 abs and when pairing them with stock spring which are tend to be a little on the soft side, the whole setup balance up perfectly due to the bilstein abs tend to be on stiffer side compared to stock abs. As for eibach pro-kit, sorry to dissappoint but i do not think our current one which are marketed at about 1k+- for a set of 4 are made in germany. I'll say more likely some sort of conterfeit or 'asean type' made from taiwan or thailand. Pure eibach pro-kit made in germany cost roughly about 2k++ which are about the price of the bilstein b6 abs themselves. Anyway i can conclude bilstein abs worth every single penny as it is not too stiff nor too soft but just nice plus reliable. Thus no wonder bmw made it as oem abs to most of their car models.

Good info there. May I ask where did you get your Bilstein and how long is the warranty?

 

[speed2horizon]

BMW is continental cars category..I heard that bilstein is a good quality..after i review every comment and advise, even my own survey, the best for N16 are stock shock absorber there as APM..KYB not produce shock absorber for N16..So,*Speed2horizon*,where the Titan shop nearby Subang area..?? Sunway..??

Titan is somewhere near pandan Indah. Go try them out.

 

[Jac83]

Good info there. May I ask where did you get your Bilstein and how long is the warranty?

I got mine from the east Malaysia Bilstein dealer. Warranty is as standard which is 1 year. From the reviews, reliability is not an issue for Bilstein abs and most last least 5-8 years which makes it worth every penny spent.

 

[wan_k278]

Pandan indah..?? which area,dude..?? yesterday, I went to some workshop in PJ and Sunway area..I ask a mechanic on what is a perfect suspension for me, he said, go to stock shock absorber and if I want to lowered my car in 1 inch, he advise me to use Eibach pro kit because for this both combination, I will get a comfortable drive. Meanwhile, he said that if I'm using eibach pro kit, may *keras* for suspension. But compare with APM & GAB shock absorber, which one is best quality and long lasting usage..?? Before I want to change my suspension, I need to survey kaw2, because I need to spend my money..So, guys, please help me..really appreciate ur advise and opinion..

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

its in pandan mewah area...

TiTAN - Custom Built Performance Shock Absorber

 

[wan_k278]

guys,last question if local shock absorber, which one u guys prefer to..either GAB,APM or KYB..

 

[speed2horizon]

guys,last question if local shock absorber, which one u guys prefer to..either GAB,APM or KYB..

RCS n TITAN are local brand/made too... Hehe...
KYB aren't local brand. Though they have manufacturing plant all over ye world.

 

[Magna]

What you guys view on Hot Bits DT1 in terms of reliability and services? Although total cost for servicing and reinstall a set of 4 at RM480, how about the turnaround time? Some one say take a few weeks!!!

Surely we cant afford to let the car idle there for few weeks? Or we keep our ori part for interim use while they service???

 

[ddv_nk12]

As the title goes, I am about to change my suspension... finally after so long.

I am gonna use BC Bor Chuann BR series with 10k for front and 6k for rear spring rates. Is it ok for my DB8?

Price is slightly over 3k including installation. Is the price right?

Hope to get these info soon cuz i'll be doing it tom.

Yay!!!!

 

[mADmAN]

guess its ok...but i personally would go for 8k rear.. coz i like em hard.. heh heh heh

 

[ddv_nk12]

Haha. I thought it is already hard. Lol...

Front 10k ok ke?

10k front, 6k rear... how is comfort wise?

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

all i can say its no more comfort but more to track setup..but if u can manage to drive it daily then surely no problem..its just MAYBE to some of "non-car maniac" passenger taking a ride with u surely they'll say something like rock hard/broken backbone etc etc


if me likely that setup would be no fuss at all... but watchout your tyre wear would be faster than usual since u'll be driving on the bends much faster than before.....

 

[ddv_nk12]

I'm alone most of the time, sometimes with my gf. That's all. Rarely bring my parents in this car. So, I think not so much of a problem. Seriously can't sleep la. Can't wait to go workshop tom. Haha.

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all i can say its no more comfort but more to track setup..but if u can manage to drive it daily then surely no problem..its just MAYBE to some of "non-car maniac" passenger taking a ride with u surely they'll say something like rock hard/broken backbone etc etc


if me likely that setup would be no fuss at all... but watchout your tyre wear would be faster than usual since u'll be driving on the bends much faster than before.....

I like the one in red!! lol

I just hope it is up to my expectations. Still kinda skeptical with the brand. But a forumer said he was happy with it. Will have to wait and see.

Btw, the sad part, my mechanic said my car is like a boat now. Hope he says car is like go kart tomorrow.

 

[mADmAN]

front 10k is fine...if i were to change my suspension oso ill most likely go for 10k front.

update us when its installed and uve had some test runs...

 

[Izso]

Wah.. 10k front 6k rear? Seriously? On my car that would be torture for the back. Good luck with the setup! Oh and ask if they allow spring swaps if you change your mind.

BC Racing has nothing but good reviews so far and I hear the damping rate is better than my slushy hotbits. Sigh. Anyone wanna swap?

 

[speed2horizon]

As the title goes, I am about to change my suspension... finally after so long.

I am gonna use BC Bor Chuann BR series with 10k for front and 6k for rear spring rates. Is it ok for my DB8?

Price is slightly over 3k including installation. Is the price right?

Hope to get these info soon cuz i'll be doing it tom.

Yay!!!!

BC what series...?