Microtech ? Megasquirt ?

[jinkl]

let do compare
do know megasquirt is around 2+ while the microtech is at 4k for lt10s

microtech features
4 Injector Drivers capable of 4 amp peak hold.
True sequential operation on 4 cylinder and rotary
applications
Run up to 4 high impedance injectors per driver
Tunable in MAP or TPS mode or combination of both.
Main Matrix table has 16x16 load sites
RPM tuning range currently every 500rpm to 9000rpm
Overall Mixture trim +-99%
Fuel Delivery Cont:-
Auxiliary Input correction +-99%
Coolant temp correction
Air temp correction
Accelerator pump amount, sensitivity and Time
compensation
Cranking enrichment correction
After start enrichment correction
Cold Start accelerator pump correction
Hard cut RPM limiter
Soft cut RPM Limiter
Over boost Limiter
Sequential, Group fire and Staged/Group fire modes

 

[khoyos]

ok 2 scenarios based on 1 question "what management are u running?"
microtech user: "i'm using microtech"(proudly says that)
reaction: "wowwwwww, damn! ur ride must be powerful!!!"
megasquirt user: "i'm using err, ermmm, err megasquirt"
reaction: "what is that? porn cd title ar?"

 

[cipan_supercas]

let do compare
do know megasquirt is around 2+ while the microtech is at 4k for lt10s

microtech features
4 Injector Drivers capable of 4 amp peak hold.
True sequential operation on 4 cylinder and rotary
applications
Run up to 4 high impedance injectors per driver
Tunable in MAP or TPS mode or combination of both.
Main Matrix table has 16x16 load sites
RPM tuning range currently every 500rpm to 9000rpm
Overall Mixture trim +-99%
Fuel Delivery Cont:-
Auxiliary Input correction +-99%
Coolant temp correction
Air temp correction
Accelerator pump amount, sensitivity and Time
compensation
Cranking enrichment correction
After start enrichment correction
Cold Start accelerator pump correction
Hard cut RPM limiter
Soft cut RPM Limiter
Over boost Limiter
Sequential, Group fire and Staged/Group fire modes

Wow.... your list is so long..... feel lazy a bit to do the MS listing but here are some info on top of my head.

MS have all the features you listed but some differences here;

1. MS do batch injection but can be made sequential if using MS3 which is still under development. FYI, the mighty RB20/25 is also using batch injection and still produce great output. 4A-GE fires all the 4 injectors at once and still becomes the engine of choice for those drifters. In short, you'll say it's good if you take note of how that works but your mind starts to think something else when you thought that batch fire will create some drawbacks even though that's not the case. At high rpm, the time will become so close that the sequential injectors too will actually continuously inject fuel.

2. MS can be made to work as COP sequential ignition firing but you have to buy extra parts and configure it inside the software. it's that simple. However, to mount the hardwares on the engine is not that simple. Best option, use whatever configuration/hardware your existing engine have.

3. Can work till 8 low impedance injectors without the resistor pack. Use the software to limit the current.

4. Mapping is 12x12 but can be expanded to 24x24 if you need to which is usually not required.

5. RPM setting is totally variable up to you. Not only the rpm limit is variable, you can adjust the mapping load/rpm according to your taste. You can even have till 25k rpm or 35k rpm. Up to you. The map is interpolated, so you don't need that every 500 rpm boxes. You can set at any no. you like to suit your application. Totally variable. You can also switch it to the 3D graph to tune.

6. Real time dwell control.

7. You can have some optionals too;
7.1. Shift light
7.2. Boost controller
7.3. NOS control
7.4. Water injection control
7.5. Actually, you can control anything you like. Your choice and creativity. You can use coolant, rpm, air temp, MAP pressure, TPS, EGO etc. to act as your switch to activate your applications.

8. You can configure MS to work with almost any engine, be it 2 stroke 1 cylinder motorcycle engine or that 4 stroke 8 cylinder muscle cars. You don't have to sent it back to the manufacturer to do that. It's diy....

Emmmm... talking about diy, won't you have that 'pride' too...???

 

[jinkl]

thats good
since everyone is talking bout microtech n only that,
atleast ppl would know that feature wise, its nothing much

 

[jinkl]

just for fun i was going thru the microtech software and as well as the megatunix software, abit errr , megasquirt seem to have much much more features
check this screenshots, bt im a microtech user, bt squirt is sure my next

microtech
http://www.microtechefi.com/images/screenshots/data2.gif
http://www.microtechefi.com/images/screenshots/datalog3.gif
http://www.microtechefi.com/images/screenshots/graph.gif
http://www.microtechefi.com/images/screenshots/ign.gif
http://www.microtechefi.com/images/screenshots/load.gif
http://www.microtechefi.com/images/screenshots/options.gif
http://www.microtechefi.com/images/screenshots/table.gif
http://www.microtechefi.com/images/screenshots/water.gif

wanna see megaquirt
MegaTunix Runtime Tab
MegaTunix Datalogging Tab
MegaTunix Logviewer Tab
MegaTunix Tools Tab
MSnS-E Firmware Features Tab
MSnS-E Fuel Parameters Tab
MSnS-E Idle Control Tab
MSnS-E EGO Settings Tab
MSnS-E Boost/Knock Tab
MSnS-E Water/NOS/Launch Tab
MSnS-E Cranking/Warmup Tab
MSnS-E Output Pins Tab
MSnS-E Output Mapping Tab
MSnS-E Traction Control Tab
MSnS-E Wheel Decoder Tab
MSnS-E Advanced Options Tab
MSnS-E Accel Wizard Tab
MSnS-Extra VE-Tables Tab
MSnS-Extra Spark-Tables Tab
MSnS-Extra AFR Tables Tab
MSnS-Extra Boost Tables Tab
MSnS-Extra Rotarty Trailing Tables Tab
MegaTunix Tooth/Trigger Monitor Tab

dnt just see the screenshots , run the program urself and see em

microtech built in map sensor ?
while
megasquirt 4bar map sensor with barometric correction ?
wht more, to perform a boostcut on microtech , if u r on high boost application , u do need a 3bar map sensor to perform boost cuts ,
bt with megasquirts map daddy n squirt software , u can set to perform hard rev cut , soft rev cut or other triggers , this can really save ur ass from getting an engine blown .

megasquirt boost controller using selenoid ?
with ms extra rotary tuning ?

microtech doesnt use ur narrowband o2 sensor
bt megasquirt still can be connected to ur o2 sensor for better fueling during cruising n idling , and megasquirt with a lil more spending , u can buy a Wideband innovate sensor and make a closed loop , how awesome is that

megasquirt also enables you to use AIR temp sensor , where temp is a variable in tuning the car , microtech air temp ? err ? additional item ?

with 2k+ for megasquirt, sensors , additional items, it rocks
i really wouldnt mind spending a lil more cash to get a wideband and a nice PDA to make it as a datalogger , hehe can remove the rsm , just Rm100-200 to get a 2nd hand PDA

displaying data on pda, this totaly beats the microtech indash and microtech handheld
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6823130259.jpg
gonna have a battle , want to tweak some settings on launch control , boost , n some stuff
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6823134215.jpg
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6823155122.jpg

 

[sumimasen]

i supposed that MS has its own version of dash unit rite? same as microtech...
called Digi-Dash...interesting features too

 

[kennethfong]

microtech built in map sensor ?
while
megasquirt 4bar map sensor with barometric correction ?

MS package comes with 2.5 bar map sensor, you need to purchase the 4 bar map daddy sensor at USD 60...

wht more, to perform a boostcut on microtech , if u r on high boost application , u do need a 3bar map sensor to perform boost cuts ,
bt with megasquirts map daddy n squirt software , u can set to perform hard rev cut , soft rev cut or other triggers , this can really save ur ass from getting an engine blown .

Ur right, for my mini GSR, i only set my boost cut to 200kpa not boosting further at the moment.....

megasquirt boost controller using selenoid ?

all MS is compatible with GM solenoid for boost control, it's still under develoopment but reports from forums have confirmed it could work flawlessly.

with ms extra rotary tuning ?

rotary? haven't seen or heard one locally in msia yet, awaiting cipan for this, but a guy with the name muaythaibxer is the leader in MS rotary off malaysia....

megasquirt also enables you to use AIR temp sensor , where temp is a variable in tuning the car , microtech air temp ? err ? additional item ?

for me the whole idea of choosing megasquirt is due to its map sensor, due to my mass air flow sensor blow off valve richness syndrome, however the air temp sensor could also be replaced by your existing air flow sensor where applicable, with some software tuning....

cipan has tons of experience in building n installing ms, a vote of confidence on this item with resourceful local support....

 

[cyphunk]

megasquirt besh!!....cheap standalone for a lot of features....dunno what to comment more la because still saving up my monthly allowance just to get it....

 

[LyPaN]

khoyos..

are u still using MS for new Monster?

 

[khoyos]

not yet as i'm running apexi power fc now(temporarily). will install MS when cipan's 1st r&d rb25 is successful.

 

[jinkl]

ecupro : it be nice, if put a tablet pc in the dashboard displaying gauges hehehe

 

[jinkl]

jinkl,
Any news from the strange page ?

The word : "Keluar", "Batal", "Tutup"

What say you!

nah its nt strange
its just the default language set by ur Operating system
those words taken from the OS i guess
if its nt also , its open source , so can be edited wht
all written in 'c' i tink

 

[jinkl]

jinkl,
You quote:
"nah its nt strange
its just the default language set by ur Operating system
those words taken from the OS i guess
if its nt also , its open source , so can be edited wht
all written in 'c' i tink"

Bro, are you sure. If default language set by my Operating System, how come not all words in "BAHASA"

and also down load from the "Original" site and install.
I don't know about "c"....he..he...he

Strange pages and words.

ops u mean tht screenshots taken frm ur pc ? hehehehe, tht means :P coder is malaysian or indonesian hehe

 

[cyphunk]

since u guys discussin about MS versus MIKOTEK...can MS be use effectively on VTEC turbo??

 

[jinkl]

sure can la bro
its vtec only , sure can

since u guys discussin about MS versus MIKOTEK...can MS be use effectively on VTEC turbo??

 

[jinkl]

Megatunix Software,

VE table setting with very "small" meter.

just a small request
STOP HIJACKING!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[khoyos]

cipan's "meters" are not as simple as those. he made it look a lot nicer, with more intricate art work. and he didnt kecoh also in forum...

 

[sumimasen]

ecupro,
its not wrong...just your acts indicate you are into Megasquirt itself since it has a powerfull going software.maybe the hardware is lacking sumthing..why bothered?you have your own "toys" to play with,you also can sell it in zth (just join zth merchant).rite?some of your replies in other Megasquirt thread is kinda to be misleading just to ensure that your Protec is more reliable and superior..could be? I dont want to comment any further.how about if you post your Protec software GUI overhere. It would be more pleasure. Or do I need to create a new thread for it? I want to see the DOS mode(can yours match up with Haltech E6K DOS mode?) and not the Windows mode (under development for years rite?).that is my advise.hijacking?pls use WIKI...if you know what it is

 

[Joeker]

ECUpro,

I tried to be kind and understanding to you by creating your own Protec thread.

I think your Protec ECU has potential and I notice you have solid electronice foundation.

But I think your knowledge in engine modification has room for improvement.

For instance, you told some people here to tune at 14.7 from idle all the way to full throttle based on Apexi TT A/F meter.

So, iInstead of talking and promoting your own Protec ECU, you are bad mouthing other ECUs and also other ECU tuners.

TO be honset, your postings are sometimes very irritating and rude.

You are not young kid, please don behave like one.

I heard you are in your late 30's or 40's.

I think you have heard of old people saying "When we sell flower, we don talk how bad about other people's flower, we only talk how good our own flower is"

For your information, Hijack in net term means interupting. In means if the subject is about A but some else start talking about B.

Please use some common sense.

If you think you are being unfairly treated here, please stop posting because we won't miss you either.

 

[ryzzal]

that's more like it.... thanks to joeker for being fair....

a thread is for others to share info and not trying to show we are the best in the world.... if we are, in that sense, so be it.... who really care who we are or what so ever....

i think, this thread is good.... i'm trying to understand further the functions of these standalone brains features....

its good to hear that ms having so much functions as im planning to build up a 300whp 1.3cc 4efte 4throttle.... keep up discussion as we all need more info for our next level of motorsport improvements...